# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1669
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33365 "2019-06-05T17:25:51Z")
Trump admin to cancel educational and recreational activities and legal aid services for unaccompanied minors being held at the border. > **[Trump administration cancels English classes, soccer, legal aid for...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-administration-cancels-english-classes-soccer-legal-aid-for-unaccompanied-child-migrants-in-us-shelters/2019/06/05/df2a0008-8712-11e9-a491-25df61c78dc4_story.html?utm_term=.5c201c928788)** > > In an email obtained by The Washington Post, U.S. officials say program for sheltering minors who crossed the border is running out of money, must focus on “essential” services. The cruelty is the point. Always. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33366 "2019-06-05T17:31:33Z")
Trump Tells Prince Charles: Don’t Blame the U.S. for Climate Crisis _President breaks royal protocol by disclosing that Charles took him to task over climate change. Trump told him that even if climate change is real, it isn’t America’s fault._ > [@](#): > > When one of the world’s most famous environmentalists, Prince Charles, met the world’s most famous climate-crisis denier in Donald Trump, there was only ever likely to be one major topic of conversation. > > Trump has revealed that Charles, Britain’s next king, spent an hour and a half trying to convince him that climate change was an existential threat to the world. But the president’s only reply appeared to be that, even if climate change is real, then it isn’t America’s fault. And, just because Trump is a clueless jackass: > [@](#): > > But it was Trump’s comments on his conversation with Prince Charles that gave the greatest insight into his past few days spent in Britain. A long-established protocol dictates that foreign and domestic politicians are not supposed to disclose their discussions with members of the royal family. Not for the first time, Trump clearly couldn’t help himself. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33367 "2019-06-05T17:42:44Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I heard a rate cut is coming. How will that affect things? It’s exactly what the Trumpists want to hear: “If our little trade war hurts the economy, Jerome Powell will bail us out with lower interest rates.” That’s also how normal cyclical economic corrections can become full-blown financial crises if that becomes a policy norm. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33368 "2019-06-05T18:32:14Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > …Trump has revealed that Charles, Britain’s next king, spent an hour and a half trying to convince him that climate change was an existential threat to the world. But the president’s only reply appeared to be that, even if climate change is real, then it isn’t America’s fault. > > … Your Royal Highness, welcome to our world. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33369 "2019-06-05T18:44:41Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Trump admin to cancel educational and recreational activities and legal aid services for unaccompanied minors being held at the border. > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-administration-cancels-english-classes-soccer-legal-aid-for-unaccompanied-child-migrants-in-us-shelters/2019/06/05/df2a0008-8712-11e9-a491-25df61c78dc4\_story.html?utm\_term=.5c201c928788](https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-administration-cancels-english-classes-soccer-legal-aid-for-unaccompanied-child-migrants-in-us-shelters/2019/06/05/df2a0008-8712-11e9-a491-25df61c78dc4_story.html?utm_term=.5c201c928788) > > The cruelty is the point. Always. I wonder how those Trump supporters who claim their need to force women to bear children against their will is based on concern for children’s well-being feel about this. I expect they’re fine with it but I’m always willing to be surprised. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33370 "2019-06-05T19:05:28Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > From that link: > “I did say, ‘Well, the United States right now has among the cleanest climates there are based on all statistics.’ And it’s even getting better because I agree with that we want the best water, the cleanest water. It’s crystal clean, has to be crystal clean clear.” > > Motherfucker. :smack: Rex Tillerson was right: he’s a fucking moron. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33371 "2019-06-05T19:06:56Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I heard a rate cut is coming. How will that affect things? The Dow loves rate cuts. All news is filtered through: will this make rate cuts more likely, or less? ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33372 "2019-06-05T19:54:39Z")
If I am reading this right, the subject of that oh-so-unfair Witch Hunt has once again eschewed protocol in favor of the Witches’ Code: “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.” Coincidence? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33373 "2019-06-05T20:00:54Z")
MAGA-bot: I ain’t got nuthin’ against legal immigration. I’m against ILLEGAL immigration. And they should learn ENGLISH! Like yesterday. Migrant: Ok, great. I’ll start tomorrow. MAGA-bot: No, no, no!!! Stop learning English, just get the fuck out of the country! Wait, wait, before you go, I’ve got a job paintin’ houses, puttin’ up fences, and doing dangerous shit that snowflake libs don’t wanna do. I’ll pay you below minimum wage and offer no benefits. Oh, and you don’t exist. Deal? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33374 "2019-06-05T20:58:27Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Trump believes that climate/weather/atmosphere are all the same thing. He’s attemptng to downplay the impact of climate change by saying: sure, sometimes the weather is bad, but it’s also good sometimes. I think what he said was : “You also had some very fine weather on both sides” ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33375 "2019-06-05T23:56:00Z")
[Trump is ‘making up’ for not serving in Vietnam with increased defense funding, he says](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-is-making-up-for-not-serving-in-vietnam-with-increased-defense-funding-he-says/ar-AACrrtb) > [@](#): > > “I would have not have minded that at all. I would have been honored” to serve, Trump said, though he did not address accusations of draft dodging with Morgan. > > However, Trump added, he has increased the Pentagon’s budget during his tenure, which he said should be considered as an amends to avoiding service. > > "I think I make up for it right now,” Trump said, describing a proposed defense budget that will approach $750 billion in 2020. “I think I am making up for it rapidly.” Christ, the _balls_ on this guy… ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33376 "2019-06-06T00:35:27Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Christ, the _balls_ on this guy… Well, he would have needed them to get through his own “[personal Vietnam](https://www.thedailybeast.com/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam)” back in the '80s. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33377 "2019-06-06T01:04:27Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > [Trump is ‘making up’ for not serving in Vietnam with increased defense funding, he says](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-is-making-up-for-not-serving-in-vietnam-with-increased-defense-funding-he-says/ar-AACrrtb) > > Christ, the _balls_ on this guy… I might buy it if he was spending his own money. He’s not. He’s spending ours. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33378 "2019-06-06T01:19:50Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > [Trump is ‘making up’ for not serving in Vietnam with increased defense funding, he says](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-is-making-up-for-not-serving-in-vietnam-with-increased-defense-funding-he-says/ar-AACrrtb) > > > [@](#): > > > > “I would have not have minded that at all. I would have been honored” to serve, Trump said, though he did not address accusations of draft dodging with Morgan. > > > > However, Trump added, he has increased the Pentagon’s budget during his tenure, which he said should be considered as an amends to avoiding service. > > > > "I think I make up for it right now,” Trump said, describing a proposed defense budget that will approach $750 billion in 2020. “I think I am making up for it rapidly.” > > Christ, the _balls_ on this guy… How much of that increased funding is for his asinine space force? Oh, and what about his quaint little stunt of trying to use funds targeted for the military to pay for his incredibly fucking stupid monument to racism, the Almighty Wall of All? And, of course, it is not a good thing to meddle in the military justice system to ensure murderers get away with murder. Make no mistake, the saffron scum is no true supporter of the military. But, hey, given the incredible lack of decent character traits and the abundance of negative personality traits the Saffron Scum has, it’s probably a damn good thing he didn’t serve in Vietnam. At the very least, he would have gotten members of his own unit killed. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33379 "2019-06-06T01:27:02Z")
Many migrants have reported that when they arrived at CBP facilities, officers confiscated their medications and never returned them. Volunteer physicians who have been treating the migrants have seen numerous people with dangerous health conditions that have gotten worse since they arrived in the US. > **[Border Patrol is confiscating migrant kids' medicine, U.S. doctors say](https://www.yahoo.com/news/border-patrol-is-confiscating-migrant-kids-medicine-us-doctors-say-225354608.html)** > > For pediatricians that serve at the U.S.-Mexico border, the seizing of medications heightens concerns about the medical care provided to the record numbers of children held at processing centers and short-term holding facilities. We’re operating concentration camps. We destroy families, take away people’s life-sustaining medications, and subject children to maltreatment. We’re a half step away from shaving their heads to make coats. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33380 "2019-06-06T01:53:22Z")
[You might appreciate this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JOpPNra4bw); it’s a 2 minute sketch from _That Mitchell and Webb_ Look, a brilliant comedy program from a decade or so ago. After you watch it:[spoiler]Okay, now think about the Oakland Raiders, the No Fear logo, the Terminator, biker-type t-shirts, Ed Hardy shirts… lots and lots of skulls in current popular American culture. Now ask yourself the question: are we the baddies? How do you think we look to the rest of the world?[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33381 "2019-06-06T02:06:23Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > But our climate it [_clean!_](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/05/donald-trump-tells-prince-charles-us-is-clean-on-climate-change) > [@bobot](#): > > From that link: > “I did say, ‘Well, the United States right now has among the cleanest climates there are based on all statistics.’ And it’s even getting better because I agree with that we want the best water, the cleanest water. It’s crystal clean, has to be crystal clean clear.” > > Motherfucker. :smack: Personally, I’m increasingly awed by the world’s leaders and ceremonial heads of state and such (in this case, Prince Charles). The degree of self-control it must take to refrain from _literally_ falling on the floor laughing, is genuinely impressive. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33382 "2019-06-06T02:23:29Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Personally, I’m increasingly awed by the world’s leaders and ceremonial heads of state and such (in this case, Prince Charles). The degree of self-control it must take to refrain from _literally_ falling on the floor laughing, is genuinely impressive. I wish they wouldn’t hold back. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33383 "2019-06-06T02:28:43Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I wish they wouldn’t hold back. That would be satisfying in a way. But on the other hand, we’re all better than he is. No question. And no one wants to give that up by descending into rudeness. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33384 "2019-06-06T02:31:53Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [You might appreciate this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JOpPNra4bw); it’s a 2 minute sketch from _That Mitchell and Webb_ Look, a brilliant comedy program from a decade or so ago. > > After you watch it:[spoiler]Okay, now think about the Oakland Raiders, the No Fear logo, the Terminator, biker-type t-shirts, Ed Hardy shirts… lots and lots of skulls in current popular American culture. > > Now ask yourself the question: are we the baddies? How do you think we look to the rest of the world?[/spoiler] Reminds me of 1990. President Bush, having just driven the Iraqis out of Kuwait, announced the dawning of a “New World Order”. I heard that phrased translated as "_Just do like we say and nobody gets hurt_.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1668) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1670)