# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33405 "2019-06-07T06:11:08Z")

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(wrong thread)

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**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33406 "2019-06-07T07:16:26Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> When’s the last time you were there?

A month ago. 🙂

> [@Nava](#):
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> For me it was 4 years ago (for 15 months), and there were Día de los Muertos-inspired notebooks, coloring books, jewelry… Skulls both “Euro-style” and “Mex-style” decorated dresses, blouses, skirts, shoes. And yes, bridal and bridal-party dresses.

Huh. Well, maybe I’m so used to them I don’t even notice them. Anyway, wrong thread, so I’ll let it drop.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33407 "2019-06-07T07:49:38Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> And one of their biggest complaints about the relationship is precisely that many US companies treat them banana-republic style: Mexicans get hired as peons, shift-leader on up are American. Even if your engineering degree is from an American university, if you’re Mexican you’re not good enough. (#notallUScompanies)

Sounds plausible. I would assume that as people break the rift, they’ll hire more of their own under them. At my company, when I had a white boss, most of my coworkers were white. Once my boss was Indian, it became all Indian.

I think part of it is just what site they go to, to look for new hires.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33408 "2019-06-07T08:54:01Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Sounds plausible. I would assume that as people break the rift, they’ll hire more of their own under them. At my company, when I had a white boss, most of my coworkers were white. Once my boss was Indian, it became all Indian.
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> I think part of it is just what site they go to, to look for new hires.

Yes, the Americans hire from the US. Other multinationals hire locally, so there is no ceiling to break.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33409 "2019-06-07T11:16:33Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Woman in England delivers a strange and confusing message as she [stabs a baby-shitgibbon balloon](https://youtu.be/CFhbv7VEFGY) with a pair of scissors and rants about how he is the greatest american president ever. Medics treated her bleeding hand.

That balloon is hilarious…and [the Museum of London wants to have it](https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2019/06/05/museum-of-london-wants-the-trump-baby-blimp/) (and apparently the Sadiq Khan one as well) as it’s become an iconic representation of modern political protest in London.

Because the linked article is a blog post rather than from a newspaper, the author gets away with a spectacular closing line:

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> Destined to be deflated and locked away in a secure room, Donald Trump is the 45th President of the USA.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33410 "2019-06-07T12:22:54Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> …Because the linked article is a blog post rather than from a newspaper, the author gets away with a spectacular closing line:
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*\*Destined to be deflated and locked away in a secure room Donald Trump is the 45th President of the USA. \*\*

My bold.

YES!! That’s a plan I can get behind!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33411 "2019-06-07T14:10:00Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Because the linked article is a blog post rather than from a newspaper, the author gets away with a spectacular closing line:

That modifier ain’t just dangling; it’s all up in his face.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33412 "2019-06-07T14:52:12Z")

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Somebody sent me this yesterday, and it completely cracked me up:

> **[The Bob Cesca Show Presented By BubbleGenius.com 6/4/19](https://www.bobcesca.com/the-bob-cesca-show-presented-by-bubblegenius-com-6-4-19/)**
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> Young Frankenstein — NSFW! Buzz Burbank is here today; The New York Times vs MSNBC; Donald Trump’s stupid tuxedo; Trump embarrasses America while in England; Bob included in American Co…

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33413 "2019-06-07T15:09:07Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Somebody sent me this yesterday, and it completely cracked me up:
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> [https://www.bobcesca.com/the-bob-cesca-show-presented-by-bubblegenius-com-6-4-19/](https://www.bobcesca.com/the-bob-cesca-show-presented-by-bubblegenius-com-6-4-19/)

A man about town.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33414 "2019-06-07T16:16:23Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Somebody sent me this yesterday, and it completely cracked me up:
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> [https://www.bobcesca.com/the-bob-cesca-show-presented-by-bubblegenius-com-6-4-19/](https://www.bobcesca.com/the-bob-cesca-show-presented-by-bubblegenius-com-6-4-19/)

[Similar take:](https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/62018447_10157133878080535_3756324276198703104_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_oc=AQnLvvPvHr0Y6HdGh_tE8MADW-qcuh_YPrvzoX2Nwy370BBOtsYQionQgs4npfiUdns&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=2e906c23d1827ec592b5190d1496ba75&oe=5D515D74)

PUTTIN ONA RIZZ!

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33415 "2019-06-07T16:22:43Z")

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Cute, but what I really want to see is that party trick where Donald talks while Vladimir drinks vodka.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33416 "2019-06-08T02:09:14Z")

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Trump Calls Off Plan to Impose Tariffs on Mexico

> **[Trump Calls Off Plan to Impose Tariffs on Mexico (Published 2019)](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/07/us/politics/trump-tariffs-mexico.html)**
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> President Trump said Friday evening on Twitter that the “Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended.”

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> WASHINGTON — President Trump backed off his plan to impose tariffs on all Mexican goods and announced via Twitter on Friday night that the United States had reached an agreement with Mexico to reduce the flow of migrants to the southwestern border.  
> …

Of course he called them off. The important thing is that he stayed in the headlines and got people all hot and bothered. We have a troll for a president.

The question is, what happened inside the tent while the organ grinder’s monkey was distracting us out front?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33417 "2019-06-08T02:13:55Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> He threatened to close the border and it turned out to be a bluff, and I’m guessing this will also turn out to be a bluff. He doesn’t want to risk the embarrassment of facing a public rebuke from his own party at a time when impeachment chatter is getting louder.

Looks like this was all a bluff…not surprising.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33418 "2019-06-08T02:20:02Z")

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See? Looks like Republicans CAN bring him to heel if they really want to.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33419 "2019-06-08T02:33:23Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> See? Looks like Republicans CAN bring him to heel if they really want to.

Do y’all think that’s what really happened? Or was he just doing his usual “set a fire then put it out” dance?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33420 "2019-06-08T02:34:04Z")

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It wasn’t a bluff, it was a plan until even the Republicans in Congress were going to vote against him on this issue.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33421 "2019-06-08T02:41:58Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Do y’all think that’s what really happened? Or was he just doing his usual “set a fire then put it out” dance?

I’ll hedge my bet and say"a bit of both…" 😃

Seriously, though, I think the Republican rumblings had at least something to do with his backing off.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33422 "2019-06-08T04:05:37Z")

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Just read the agreement. Mexico will take “unprecedented steps” to stop migration, which means they will deploy the National Guard across the country, they will stop human trafficking, and if any immigrants get across the US border, they will be returned to Mexico to await adjudication.

Well hell, another problem solved. This is almost as good as ending the nuclear threat in North Korea

> **[READ: US-Mexico joint declaration on migration | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/politics/us-mexico-joint-declaration-release/index.html)**
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> The United Stated and Mexico met this week to commit to issues related to migration.

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33423 "2019-06-08T04:11:57Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> What the Ever Loving Fuck?
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> [Lawmakers briefed by Yale psychiatrist on Trump’s mental health: report](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lawmakers-briefed-by-yale-psychiatrist-on-trumps-mental-health-report/ar-BBHQtbq?li=BBnb7Kz)
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> So many questions.
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> Like…who the fuck is Bandy Lee? Why is he\she talking with lawmakers. Has this person examined the President? I doubt it. And so, why is this person’s opinion anything other than a useless opinion. Why the fuck is this news??? The President is crazy?? Really?? Like we didn’t know that already???

From bad (quoting from Jan '18) to worse…

[House Democrats Plan Event to Examine Donald Trump’s Allegedly Deteriorating Mental Health](https://www.newsweek.com/house-democrats-plan-event-examine-donald-trumps-allegedly-deteriorating-mental-health-1442458)

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> House Democrats are planning a Capitol Hill event that will feature a psychiatrist who will examine President Donald Trump’s allegedly deteriorating mental health.
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> Dr. Bandy Lee — a Yale School of Medicine psychiatrist and editor of the best-selling book “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President” — will be speaking at the event and all lawmakers in Washington D.C. will be invited to attend. According to The Hill, Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY), who has previously called for Trump’s impeachment, and Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) will be hosting the event.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33424 "2019-06-08T04:15:43Z")

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Trump says, about the Queen of England, "there are those that say they have never seen the Queen have a better time, a more animated time” than when she was with him.

I can believe it. She has lived over 90 years, and as far as I know, has never hung out with a talking baboon.

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