# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1683
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33645 "2019-06-17T22:32:09Z")
They changed their minds and are founding the shining city of Trump Banks, just west of the Jordan River. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33646 "2019-06-17T23:16:19Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > But the guy he’s trying to stroke (it’s usually worthwhile to stroke the US President, even if it’s privately humiliating) thinks it’s real. As we know by now, it doesn’t matter in the least if it’s real or not, or even if Trump believes it’s real. He’ll be mentioning it proudly in every single rally and televised speech from now until the end (whether that be nuclear Armageddon, some other type of Armageddon, or Trump’s being silenced by other means–heart attack, solitary confinement, or what have you). Actually I’m surprised Trump hasn’t demanded that Bibi rename the entire country. “Trumpael” has a certain ring to it, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33647 "2019-06-18T01:05:38Z")
> [@HelenGawn](#): > > They changed their minds and are founding the shining city of Trump Banks, just west of the Jordan River. No doubt on land that is sinking. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33648 "2019-06-18T01:12:23Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Well, [that’ll](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/16/us/politics/trump-campaign-pollsters-fired.html) solve the problem! > > > [@](#): > > > > President Trump’s campaign has decided to purge some of its pollsters after a leak of dismal internal polls for the president that he denied existed… > > > > The polling showed Mr. Trump behind former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. in several key battleground states, including by double digits in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. The results were confirmed to The New York Times by advisers to Mr. Trump, but when they became public, he called them “fake polls.”… The most likely leak, to be honest, is Team Trump and I don’t mean that they have a person giving stuff to the press, secretly. Ain’t no way a group that works for campaigns is going to leak something. They know how to do this and keep it tight. Team Trump has had a long time to work the faithless out of the mix. I’d take it as evidence that they feel like they have a decent chance with Biden. They’re less worried about him than others, so they’re giving him a boost. “Don’t throw me in that there Br’er Patch!” And all that. My guess is that they’re worried about the Booty jump: > **[Which 2020 Candidates Are More (Or Less) Popular Than They ‘Should’ Be?](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-2020-candidates-are-more-or-less-popular-than-they-should-be/)** > > Primaries are a lot harder to predict (and poll) than general elections, in large part because partisanship is taken out of the equation. So in addition to look… Personally, I suspect that they’re using Kellyanne as, in essence, a spy against the press, feeding them false and misleading information while having others leak information that Kellyanne is secretly opposed to Trump. Michael Wolff’s quotes about her should have had her kicked out a while ago and yet there’s never been any indication that Trump is the least bit happy with her or worried about her faith. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33649 "2019-06-18T01:44:17Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > The most likely leak, to be honest, is Team Trump and I don’t mean that they have a person giving stuff to the press, secretly. > > Ain’t no way a group that works for campaigns is going to leak something. They know how to do this and keep it tight. > > Team Trump has had a long time to work the faithless out of the mix. > > I’d take it as evidence that they feel like they have a decent chance with Biden. They’re less worried about him than others, so they’re giving him a boost. “Don’t throw me in that there Br’er Patch!” And all that. The alternative theory that I heard is that yes, it was leaked by Team Trump. But it was done because they got tired of having their analyses ignored, and figured the only way to get their Candidate to listen and focus is to have it appear on cable news. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33650 "2019-06-18T01:50:47Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > The alternative theory that I heard is that yes, it was leaked by Team Trump. But it was done because they got tired of having their analyses ignored, and figured the only way to get their Candidate to listen and focus is to have it appear on cable news. Most likely… and also very sad. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33651 "2019-06-18T02:22:15Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > The alternative theory that I heard is that yes, it was leaked by Team Trump. But it was done because they got tired of having their analyses ignored, and figured the only way to get their Candidate to listen and focus is to have it appear on cable news. 1. If Trump doesn’t win, he’s going to jail. The man busted his ass campaigning to keep the Senate, up to and including creating a conspiracy theory that got some Jewish people shot (despite that Trump is massively pro-Jewish), and yet he kept endorsing it all the way to election day. He used the office of the Presidency to fundraise off the Wall as a way to divert money into the 2020 campaign. Ain’t no way he’s not paying attention. 2. If you work for Trump, wanting him to be a part of the process isn’t really something you look for, let alone use underhanded means to secure. The only exception being his one strength, which is self-promotion. But he never stops self-promoting, so that’s not really something you can or need to ask him to do more of and, as said, you’re not going to get a much greater stick to use on him than the threat of jail time. The safe bet is that, as always, the liberal media is allowing themselves to be used as Trump’s key advertising vehicle, pressing billions of dollars worth of eyes the direction that he wants them to look. CNN, WP, and the NYT did more for Trump than Russia ever did, and that’s by several 1000X. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33652 "2019-06-18T02:38:01Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > The alternative theory that I heard is that yes, it was leaked by Team Trump. But it was done because they got tired of having their analyses ignored, and figured the only way to get their Candidate to listen and focus is to have it appear on cable news. Yup, when it comes to Trump strategy, the smart money is that he is losing at tic-tac-toe rather than winning at 3D Chess. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33653 "2019-06-18T03:44:43Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > (despite that Trump is massively pro-Jewish) Any real evidence of this? He’s pro-Israel (well, sort of) and pro-rich people (this accounts for the Kushners) but not really pro-Jewish. He’s not really an out and out antisemite as far as I can tell, but he certainly tosses off antisemitic stereotypes like it’s the 50s again. I mean, when you say to a room full of Jewish Republicans words to the effect of ‘I’m a great negotiator, just like you people’, that’s not exactly a studied, nuanced statement on the ethnic background to the people you are addressing. I suppose in his mind that’s a great compliment, but c’mon. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33654 "2019-06-18T04:32:39Z")
This is worrying. Trump, on Twitter tonight: > [@](#): > > Next week ICE will begin the process of removing the millions of illegal aliens who have illicitly found their way into the United States. They will be removed as fast as they come in. > Article about the tweet: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-vows-mass-immigration-arrests-removals-of-millions-of-illegal-aliens-starting-next-week/2019/06/17/4e366f5e-916d-11e9-aadb-74e6b2b46f6a\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-vows-mass-immigration-arrests-removals-of-millions-of-illegal-aliens-starting-next-week/2019/06/17/4e366f5e-916d-11e9-aadb-74e6b2b46f6a_story.html) Rounding up a few million people and evicting them from the country in a short timespan ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33655 "2019-06-18T05:30:05Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > This is worrying. > > Trump, on Twitter tonight: > > [https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1140791400658870274](https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1140791400658870274) > > Article about the tweet: > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-vows-mass-immigration-arrests-removals-of-millions-of-illegal-aliens-starting-next-week/2019/06/17/4e366f5e-916d-11e9-aadb-74e6b2b46f6a\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-vows-mass-immigration-arrests-removals-of-millions-of-illegal-aliens-starting-next-week/2019/06/17/4e366f5e-916d-11e9-aadb-74e6b2b46f6a_story.html) > > Rounding up a few million people and evicting them from the country in a short timespan You don’t seriously expect Tan the Conman to follow the law? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33656 "2019-06-18T05:44:17Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Like the generals he wants to emulate, he’s leading from behind! [Apropos to that](https://www.theroot.com/report-intelligence-officials-wont-brief-trump-on-cybe-1835560314), _Buried in a recent news report about America’s secret program of placing “digital implants” in the Russian power grid is an interesting and troublesome revelation. Namely, that senior US intelligence officials are so concerned about the president of the United States being an unrestrained ignoramus or a Russian spy, that they are holding back valuable state secrets from Agent Orangeski because they are concerned that he will either reveal details about our Cyber Command program or nix the entire plan altogether._ The buck stops, uh, no, I guess the buck is a badminton birdie. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33657 "2019-06-18T07:19:51Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > This is worrying. > > Trump, on Twitter tonight: > > [https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1140791400658870274](https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1140791400658870274) > > Article about the tweet: > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-vows-mass-immigration-arrests-removals-of-millions-of-illegal-aliens-starting-next-week/2019/06/17/4e366f5e-916d-11e9-aadb-74e6b2b46f6a\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-vows-mass-immigration-arrests-removals-of-millions-of-illegal-aliens-starting-next-week/2019/06/17/4e366f5e-916d-11e9-aadb-74e6b2b46f6a_story.html) > > Rounding up a few million people and evicting them from the country in a short timespan Kirstjen Nielsen left just after saying in a Congressional Hearing that the organization was understaffed and lacking the resources and facilities to do what it needed to. There’s no mass eviction. 1. Report that you’re doing something that everyone wants you to do. 2. Don’t do it. 3. Wait a few weeks, announce completion. FOX may go along well enough to show a few buses deporting people (at the usual rate). ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33658 "2019-06-18T07:36:41Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > So we got the news over the weekend that Benjamin Netanyahu has named a town in the Golan Heights “Trump Heights”, complete with ceremony and sign. But, according to the daily Ha’aretz, it’s fake news. No money has been budgeted for the new town. Nor is there specific location. Indeed, there’s no commitment to build a town at all. > June 16, 2019 > [Israeli Town Named After Trump Appears to be Fake News - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/israeli-town-named-after-trump-appears-to-be-fake-news) It’s been disheartening to see how much Netanyahu has been trying to emulate Trump in recent years, in his own much slicker style. It’s like Bibi looked at your President and thought to himself, \*Wait, you can DO that? Awesome. \* Incidentally, in the unlikely event that Ramat Trump is ever actually built, it won’t be the first Israeli town named after a sitting U.S President: there’s already a Kfar Truman (“Trumanville”, founded 1950). ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33659 "2019-06-18T13:34:14Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Kirstjen Nielsen left just after saying in a Congressional Hearing that the organization was understaffed and lacking the resources and facilities to do what it needed to. > > There’s no mass eviction. > > 1. Report that you’re doing something that everyone wants you to do. > 2. Don’t do it. > 3. Wait a few weeks, announce completion. > > FOX may go along well enough to show a few buses deporting people (at the usual rate). Yeah, totally this. Making a big splash with your racist followers by SAYING you’re going to do this and then not following through is the \*winning \*strategy. You get all the bang for your buck but avoid the messiness, expense, and legal blowback from actually having to DO it. The MAGAbots are thrilled with the threat, and that’s all that matters. They like it when the black/brown people are threatened. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33660 "2019-06-18T14:14:42Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Rounding up a few million people and evicting them from the country in a short timespan A few years ago when the illegal alien population was estimated to be 12-million I was talking to someone of the “round 'em all up and throw 'em all out” school and I mentioned that even if that effort was a mere thousand dollars a head (Ha!) it would come to a 12-billion (with a B) dollar tab. > [@Monty](#): > > You don’t seriously expect Tan the Conman to follow the law? That was pretty much _his_ response. Even my spitting, “So I guess a 50-cent bullet is cheaper than a trial, then.” did not faze him. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33661 "2019-06-18T14:30:47Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > This is worrying. > > Trump, on Twitter tonight: > > [https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1140791400658870274](https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1140791400658870274) > > Article about the tweet: > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-vows-mass-immigration-arrests-removals-of-millions-of-illegal-aliens-starting-next-week/2019/06/17/4e366f5e-916d-11e9-aadb-74e6b2b46f6a\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-vows-mass-immigration-arrests-removals-of-millions-of-illegal-aliens-starting-next-week/2019/06/17/4e366f5e-916d-11e9-aadb-74e6b2b46f6a_story.html) > > Rounding up a few million people and evicting them from the country in a short timespan This should be worrying – and it should be even more worrying for Republicans because it’s clear that Trump is increasingly painting himself into a corner. His trade wars and our ailing farmers, his threats of even bigger and more extreme tariffs, his praise of Kim Jung Un and Vladimir Putin, his request to have foreign enemies disrupt our political process, his 34 indicated pals, his supreme court ruling that just allowed New York to prosecute him, his backing out of the Iran deal…lots of little insect bites and not enough repellent. Some of those just might become infected. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33662 "2019-06-18T14:34:02Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Yeah, totally this. > > Making a big splash with your racist followers by SAYING you’re going to do this and then not following through is the \*winning \*strategy. You get all the bang for your buck but avoid the messiness, expense, and legal blowback from actually having to DO it. The MAGAbots are thrilled with the threat, and that’s all that matters. They like it when the black/brown people are threatened. This. A million times, _this_. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33663 "2019-06-18T14:49:54Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > A few years ago when the illegal alien population was estimated to be 12-million I was talking to someone of the “round 'em all up and throw 'em all out” school and I mentioned that even if that effort was a mere thousand dollars a head (Ha!) it would come to a 12-billion (with a B) dollar tab.That was pretty much _his_ response. Even my spitting, “So I guess a 50-cent bullet is cheaper than a trial, then.” did not faze him. I getting to the point where I fear talk of a Final Solution may one day soon start coming out of the mouths of elected officials and some people will actually be on board. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33664 "2019-06-18T17:00:12Z")
Newsflash! Trump complains that the Democrats won’t do what he tells them to. “They all have their own ideas” > [@](#): > > It may not have been the most newsworthy moment of Donald Trump’s interview with George Stephanopoulos, but I found it interesting when the ABC News anchor asked the president what he considers the most difficult part of his job. > TRUMP: The hardest is usually the Congress, I find Congress more difficult than frankly than many of the foreign leaders. > > STEPHANOPOULOS: Why is that? > > TRUMP: Because they have their own views, you never know exactly but they have their own views and– > > STEPHANOPOULOS: But that’s democracy, isn’t it? > > TRUMP: Yeah, I guess it is, but… > > At that point, the president began complaining about U.S. border policy and his frustrations that congressional Democrats won’t simply do what he’s told them to do. When Stephanopoulos suggested that he could strike a deal making some concessions as part of a give-and-take process, the Republican replied, “The things that we’re talking about you shouldn’t have to give.” > > The comments offered a peek behind the curtain, offering insights into why Trump has struggled so dramatically to strike deals with the co-equal branch of government: those rascally members of Congress insist on having “their own views.” > > The nerve of some people. > **[Trump complains that members of Congress 'have their own views'](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-complains-members-congress-have-their-own-views-msna1243731)** > > Trump is annoyed that rascally members of Congress insist on having "their own views." The nerve of some people. People had been complaining that Trump didn’t understand the mechanisms and subtleties of government. But it’s far worse – he either doesn’t understand or doesn’t care about the very idea of Democracy. > [@](#): > > But Trump’s assessment is emblematic of how poorly suited he is to his unique position. The Republican simply wants to have his way. When others “have their own views,” it’s annoying. When lawmakers expect some kind of compromise to address a problem, this president doesn’t see it as a staple of policymaking in a democracy, he sees them looking for concessions he “shouldn’t have to give.” > > Trump doesn’t want to negotiate deals; he wants to give orders. > [@](#): > > Candidate Trump even assured voters he knew exactly how to get important legislation through Capitol Hill. In January 2016, he explained, “You know, it’s supposed to be negotiated. You’re supposed to cajole, get people in a room, you have Republicans, Democrats, you’re supposed to get together and pass a law. [Barack Obama] doesn’t want to do that because it’s too much work. So he doesn’t want to work too hard. He wants to go back and play golf.” > > The irony was less obvious at the time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1682) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1684)