# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33865 "2019-06-25T01:07:51Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Wouldn’t the best option be that Trump spends all his time for the rest of his term picking out carpeting and paint swatches for Air Force One (plane AND golf cart)?
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> And then President Anydemocrat wishes Trump good luck avoiding extradition back to the US, and Pence best wishes with his late night Jesus-Says-Please-Send-Us-Ten-Bucks TV show?

I mean it’s the best option that’s in the running.

Otherwise, the best option would be that aliens fly down out of the sky with a time machine, turn back the clock, and convince Alexander Hamilton and James Madison that they need to add some amendments to the Constitution that protect the electoral college from political interference, that a non-partisan organization be set up to draw electoral districts, and that a Condorcet election mechanism be used to elect Senators.

Or, going back a ways more, that Jesus would have laid out some strict rules for government setup that’s better than Madison and the team came up with and mandated that all of Earth start using it.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33866 "2019-06-25T01:42:10Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> More from the same interview – Pence’s response to questions about the deplorable conditions migrant children are living in in Trump’s concentration camps.
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> [Pence Dodges Questions About Conditions At Child Migrant Centers](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pence-dodges-questions-poor-conditions-child-migrant-centers)
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> Basically, Americans should be appalled… at the nerve of these migrants trying to enter our country!

And, IIRC, Pence’s other talking point was that it’s all the Democrats’ and Obama’s fault.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33867 "2019-06-25T01:47:51Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> And Nava, what are you doing the rest of your life?

Depends on whether your politicians and ours manage to screw it up really bad…

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33868 "2019-06-25T01:54:28Z")

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Jesus Fucking Christ.

“Trump says latest accuser, E. Jean Carroll, is ‘totally lying’ and ‘not my type’”

> **[Trump says latest accuser, E. Jean Carroll, is ‘totally lying’ and ‘not my type’](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-accuser-e-jean-carroll-voices-frustration-about-lack-of-consequences-for-repeated-allegations-of-sexual-misconduct/2019/06/24/852905ec-9697-11e9-830a-21b9b36b64ad_story.html?utm_term=.adb0e563bdad)**
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> The advice columnist voiced frustration about a lack of consequences for repeated allegations of sexual misconduct.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33869 "2019-06-25T02:04:41Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> Jesus Fucking Christ.
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> “Trump says latest accuser, E. Jean Carroll, is ‘totally lying’ and ‘not my type’”
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-accuser-e-jean-carroll-voices-frustration-about-lack-of-consequences-for-repeated-allegations-of-sexual-misconduct/2019/06/24/852905ec-9697-11e9-830a-21b9b36b64ad\_story.html?utm\_term=.adb0e563bdad](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-accuser-e-jean-carroll-voices-frustration-about-lack-of-consequences-for-repeated-allegations-of-sexual-misconduct/2019/06/24/852905ec-9697-11e9-830a-21b9b36b64ad_story.html?utm_term=.adb0e563bdad)

Standard Trump MO, as he’s used the “not my type” thing before. As far as lying goes, Trump claimed he had never met the woman when there was a photo of them talking at some gathering back in the '90s, or whenever, that was already published when he claimed that. Next, he’ll claim the Fake News Photoshopped it or something.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33870 "2019-06-25T02:08:05Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> Jesus Fucking Christ.
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> “Trump says latest accuser, E. Jean Carroll, is ‘totally lying’ and ‘not my type’”
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-accuser-e-jean-carroll-voices-frustration-about-lack-of-consequences-for-repeated-allegations-of-sexual-misconduct/2019/06/24/852905ec-9697-11e9-830a-21b9b36b64ad\_story.html?utm\_term=.adb0e563bdad](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-accuser-e-jean-carroll-voices-frustration-about-lack-of-consequences-for-repeated-allegations-of-sexual-misconduct/2019/06/24/852905ec-9697-11e9-830a-21b9b36b64ad_story.html?utm_term=.adb0e563bdad)

and Twitter responds - [https://twitter.com/zeddary/status/1143304798885875719?s=21](https://twitter.com/zeddary/status/1143304798885875719?s=21)

E. Jean Carroll, Nancy O’Dell (I moved on her like a bitch.), Stormy & Ivanka

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33871 "2019-06-25T02:12:50Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> and Twitter responds - [https://twitter.com/zeddary/status/1143304798885875719?s=21](https://twitter.com/zeddary/status/1143304798885875719?s=21)
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> E. Jean Carroll, Nancy O’Dell (I moved on her like a bitch.), Stormy & Ivanka

As one commenter pointed out–does that mean he does assault women who are his type?

Wouldn’t a normal person accused of assault/rape first say “I’m not a person who could do that”?

But Trump himself has bragged he does assault women.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33872 "2019-06-25T02:36:01Z")

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And as another one said: he’s not saying “I wouldn’t rape”, he’s saying “I wouldn’t rape HER”.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33873 "2019-06-25T02:54:08Z")

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Yeah; that’s pretty fucked up. Not surprising; just fucked up.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33874 "2019-06-25T03:21:12Z")

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I’m watching _The Daily Show_ and Trevor Noah commented about Pence supporting the Iranian air strikes at first, along with Bolton and Pompeo, but then supported Trump’s cancellation of them:

[paraphrase] “I never would have thought Mike Pence swings both ways.”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33875 "2019-06-25T04:04:33Z")

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Individual 1 says he has imposed sanctions on the assets of Ayatollah Khomeini.

> **[Trump appears to name the wrong Iranian leader when announcing sanctions on Iran](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/24/trump-refers-wrong-ayatollah-when-announcing-iran-sanctions/1551002001/)**
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> The Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini was Iran's Supreme Leader from 1979 to 1989. He died in 1989 and was succeeded by the current Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei.

Ayatollah Khomeini has been dead for thirty years.  
He probably meant Khamenei, who is an entirely different person.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33876 "2019-06-25T04:09:41Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Wouldn’t a normal person accused of assault/rape first say “I’m not a person who could do that”?

A normal rapist would be smart enough to say “I’m not a person who could do that” when accused of rape.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33877 "2019-06-25T04:57:52Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> A normal rapist would be smart enough to say “I’m not a person who could do that” when accused of rape.

Well, Trump isn’t normal; that’s for sure.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33878 "2019-06-25T08:58:59Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Oh, the Trump administration is going to follow the science. I feel so reassured now.

They do follow the science. Wherever the science is, the Trump administration is a long, long way behind it.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33879 "2019-06-25T09:05:50Z")

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They follow the science, subdue it, tie cinder blocks to it, and throw it in a deep reservoir.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33880 "2019-06-25T09:47:26Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Yeah; that’s pretty fucked up. Not surprising; just fucked up.

Trump in a nutshell.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33881 "2019-06-25T12:58:06Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 says he has imposed sanctions on the assets of Ayatollah Khomeini.  
> [Trump refers to wrong ayatollah when announcing Iran sanctions](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/24/trump-refers-wrong-ayatollah-when-announcing-iran-sanctions/1551002001/)  
> Ayatollah Khomeini has been dead for thirty years.  
> He probably meant Khamenei, who is an entirely different person.

“Ayatollah-_Shmayatollah_, you’ve seen one of those furriner bad guys in black, you’ve seen 'em all. They all look alike anyway. My people don’t care about stupid details. MAGA!”

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33882 "2019-06-25T14:08:04Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> “Ayatollah-_Shmayatollah_, you’ve seen one of those furriner bad guys in black, you’ve seen 'em all. They all look alike anyway. My people don’t care about stupid details. MAGA!”

My first thought was Chinese trade war/Japanese trade war, Trump would think: “What’s the difference”?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33883 "2019-06-25T15:30:14Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> Trump in a nutshell.

Nut in a Trumpshell?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33884 "2019-06-25T15:39:54Z")

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Trumple power.

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