# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1695
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33885 "2019-06-25T16:55:32Z")
Marge: Can we get rid of this Ayatollah T-shirt? Khomeini died years ago. Homer: But, Marge! It works on any Ayatollah: Ayatollah Nakhbadeh, Ayatollah Zahedi…even as we speak, Ayatollah Razmada and his cadre of fanatics are consolidating their power. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33886 "2019-06-25T16:59:44Z")
Well, I hope they spare the Ayatollah of Rock’nRollah. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33887 "2019-06-25T17:02:17Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Well, I hope they spare the Ayatollah of Rock’nRollah. There has been too much violence. Too much pain. But there is an honorable compromise. Just walk away. Give us your pump, the oil, the gasoline, and the whole compound, and we’ll spare your lives. Just walk away and we’ll give you a safe passageway in the wastelands. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33888 "2019-06-25T17:09:12Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > It’s worse than just money influencing some of these people: > > [Republican Congressman Says God Will ‘Take Care Of’ Climate Change](https://time.com/4800000/tim-walberg-god-climate-change/) > > So, you see, we have nothing to worry about. Jesus saves! What a moron! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33889 "2019-06-25T17:27:05Z")
> [@](#): > > The acting commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection says he’s stepping down amid outrage over his agency’s treatment of detained migrant children. > > John Sanders said in a message to CBP employees Tuesday that he would resign on July 5. > **[The Latest: Lawyers want inspections of migrant kid centers](https://apnews.com/article/2101134e0ce049eeb53c92376e5213d1)** > > HOUSTON (AP) — The Latest on the fallout over the discovery of children found in filthy conditions at a Border Patrol station near El Paso, Texas (all times local): “Acting Director”. Because Trump is running the least-staffed, least competent administration in history. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33890 "2019-06-25T17:41:33Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > There has been too much violence. Too much pain. But there is an honorable compromise. Just walk away. Give us your pump, the oil, the gasoline, and the whole compound, and we’ll spare your lives. Just walk away and we’ll give you a safe passageway in the wastelands. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror. Beaten! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33891 "2019-06-25T17:42:39Z")
June 25, 2019 Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue, on climate change: “You know, I think it’s weather patterns, frankly. And you know, and they change, as I said. It rained yesterday, it’s a nice, pretty day today. So the climate does change in short increments and in long increments.” > **[Agriculture secretary on climate change: ‘I think it’s weather patterns’](https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/450204-agriculture-secretary-on-climate-change-i-think-its-weather/)** > > Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue downplayed concerns about climate change during an interview with CNN released Tuesday, referring to its effects as “weather patterns.”“You know, I think it… * * * Individual 1’s choice for UN Secretary is current Ambassador to Canada Kelly Craft. Her husband is coal magnate Joseph Craft. When EPA regulators sent her, the Ambassador, an email about her work on cleaning up the Great Lakes, they got a reply from her husband, apparently on a joint account they share. [Blurred lines: Trump's UN choice and her coal magnate spouse | AP News](https://apnews.com/853e3062f3db4370ae542bd58c70fbed)? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33892 "2019-06-25T17:44:56Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Beaten! ☹ Be still my dog of war. I understand your pain. We’ve all lost someone we love. But we do it my way! We do it my way. Fear is our ally. The gasoline will be ours. Then you shall have your revenge. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33893 "2019-06-25T18:29:10Z")
Speaking to a group called Latinos for Trump (!), Mike Pence mentioned the Democrats. The crowd started shouting “Traitors!” “Murderers!” and “Lock them in cages!” Pence did nothing to calm the crowd. [https://www.mediaite.com/news/latinos-for-trump-crowd-gets-ugly-after-pence-mentions-democrats-traitors-murderers-lock-them-in-the-cages/](https://www.mediaite.com/news/latinos-for-trump-crowd-gets-ugly-after-pence-mentions-democrats-traitors-murderers-lock-them-in-the-cages/) We have a President and VP either tolerating or outright encouraging violence against political enemies. We have a state’s Republican party encouraging paramilitaries to attack democrats. We have open white supremacists in various elected and appointed positions of power. And we have concentration camps. Are we great yet? I’m terrified and hopeless. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33894 "2019-06-25T18:35:17Z")
Pence wasn’t just speaking to a Latino group; it’s a group created by Trump/Pence/GOP to make it seem like Trump has Latino support. Like so much else with these folks, it’s a lie. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33895 "2019-06-25T19:15:21Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Pence wasn’t just speaking to a Latino group; it’s a group created by Trump/Pence/GOP to make it seem like Trump has Latino support. > > Like so much else with these folks, it’s a lie. I’d love to have a citation in my pocket for that. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33896 "2019-06-25T19:28:30Z")
There is a “Latinos For Trump” facebook page. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33897 "2019-06-25T19:30:19Z")
Check out[Marco Gutierrez,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Gutierrez) allegedly the founder of L for T. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33898 "2019-06-25T19:35:06Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > We have a President and VP either tolerating or outright encouraging violence against political enemies. We have a state’s Republican party encouraging paramilitaries to attack democrats. We have open white supremacists in various elected and appointed positions of power. And we have concentration camps. I fear for a time in the not too distant future, when GOP apologists are here telling us stuff like: “Hey, you can’t call these concentration camps! That is a term reserved ONLY for those in WWII Germany! And besides, our centers are not using Zyclon B gas. We use only VX organophosphorus gas, which is much more efficient and humane. And the sub-humans are transported to OUR centers using trucks not trains. So it’s TOTALLY DIFFERENT” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33899 "2019-06-25T20:27:48Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Speaking to a group called Latinos for Trump (!), Mike Pence mentioned the Democrats. The crowd started shouting “Traitors!” “Murderers!” and “Lock them in cages!” Pence did nothing to calm the crowd. [Latinos for Trump Crowd Democrats: 'Traitors!' 'Murderers!' 'Lock Them in the Cages!'](https://www.mediaite.com/news/latinos-for-trump-crowd-gets-ugly-after-pence-mentions-democrats-traitors-murderers-lock-them-in-the-cages/) The actual chant from the linked article was “Lock them in cages _that they built_!” which is significant, because this seems to be the new party line. Based on Trump’s gish-gallop remarks today, the story about the border is: It’s a humanitarian crisis, now. It’s no longer about MS-13 pouring over the border. He wants to spend money making it better but those mean old Democrats in Congress won’t do anything. And the problem was much worse under Obama. All this kids-in-detention stuff started during the Obama Administration, but Trump is working to make it better. The absolute bald-faced-bullshit is stunning. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33900 "2019-06-25T20:33:47Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Check out[Marco Gutierrez,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Gutierrez) allegedly the founder of L for T. He must know that one black guy, always the same one, who’s always right behind Trump at every televised rally. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33901 "2019-06-25T20:37:13Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > He must know that one black guy, always the same one, who’s always right behind Trump at every televised rally. “Oh, look at my African-American over here. Look at him, are you the greatest?” ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33902 "2019-06-25T20:44:18Z")
If war breaks out with Iran, Trump says we will stay there indefinitely. > [@](#): > > Reporter: “Do you have an exit strategy for Iran if war does break out?” > > President Trump: “You are not going to need an exit strategy. I don’t need exit strategies” [https://cnn.it/2NdRVtl](https://t.co/HB3tptBtmF) [https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1143603184826572800/video/1](https://t.co/FDlSWjSxdJ) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33903 "2019-06-25T20:47:04Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I’d love to have a citation in my pocket for that. From the AP: [Pence launches ‘Latinos for Trump’ coalition](https://apnews.com/5950634e14224b0bb620a96499627f04) > [@](#): > > Pence’s remarks came as part of an event launching the “Latinos for Trump” coalition, an effort to woo Hispanic voters in advance of next November’s election. He told the crowd they would be “one of the most important coalitions of the 2020 campaign.” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33904 "2019-06-25T20:48:09Z")
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