# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1696
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33905 "2019-06-25T20:51:57Z")
“Anyway”? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33906 "2019-06-25T21:01:42Z")
> [@](#): > > Reporter: “Do you have an exit strategy for Iran if war does break out?” > > President Trump: “You are not going to need an exit strategy. I don’t need exit strategies” I would think that would be obvious: 1. Refuse to pay the contractors 2. Declare bankruptcy 3. Profit! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33907 "2019-06-25T21:03:12Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > He must know that one black guy, always the same one, who’s always right behind Trump at every televised rally. Wonder if he’s salaried or on an hourly wage. Perhaps he’s paid by appearance. Or I should say paid for his appearance. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33908 "2019-06-25T21:24:01Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Pence wasn’t just speaking to a Latino group; it’s a group created by Trump/Pence/GOP to make it seem like Trump has Latino support. > > Like so much else with these folks, it’s a lie. Not entirely a lie. There is a core 23% of Latinos who are committed Republicans and won’t care if Trump eats babies on live television. I will note that this matches John Roger’s Crazification factor pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33909 "2019-06-26T03:23:03Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Not entirely a lie. There is a core 23% of Latinos who are committed Republicans and won’t care if Trump eats babies on live television. I will note that this matches John Roger’s Crazification factor pretty well. Right. I know one well. Their attitude is typically “I got in, and I’m shutting the door behind me.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33910 "2019-06-26T03:26:30Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Not entirely a lie. There is a core 23% of Latinos who are committed Republicans and won’t care if Trump eats babies on live television. I will note that this matches John Roger’s Crazification factor pretty well. Sure, but this group was also around for the 2016 election; it’s just an Astroturf group, created to generate seemingly-favorable headlines and stories, which is exactly what this one did. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33911 "2019-06-26T03:30:32Z")
In an interview published today, The Hill tossed the Idiot-in-Chief a softball question about whether his face should be added to Mt. Rushmore. [His response?](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/trump-delivers-utterly-bizarre-and-nonsensical-answer-when-asked-if-he-should-be-on-mt-rushmore/) > [@Loser Donald](#): > > If I answer that question yes, I will end up with such bad publicity. Well, look, I have a lot of respect; even Mount Rushmore; so for many, many years they got, they had fireworks, right? Many, many years. And your new governor, she’s a great person. She called, she said, sir, for many years we had tremendous fireworks on the 4th of July. We don’t have it anymore. Can you do something? And I got it approved. Starting, next season, it was not easy, starting next season, Mount Rushmore will have tremendous fireworks like they had for many years. But they ended it a long time ago, but they didn’t want, but they didn’t have fireworks because of, I don’t know, I think they thought, thought the stone was gonna catch on fire. How anyone can listen to the word salad emanating from this lunatic’s mouth-hole and think he’s mentally fit to hold office baffles me. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33912 "2019-06-26T03:52:18Z")
I hope the governor remembers to rake the forest first. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33913 "2019-06-26T04:15:35Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > In an interview published today, The Hill tossed the Idiot-in-Chief a softball question about whether his face should be added to Mt. Rushmore. > > [His response?](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/trump-delivers-utterly-bizarre-and-nonsensical-answer-when-asked-if-he-should-be-on-mt-rushmore/) > > How anyone can listen to the word salad emanating from this lunatic’s mouth-hole and think he’s mentally fit to hold office baffles me. A minor league back-up bullpen catcher has to have better media training than this guy. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33914 "2019-06-26T05:30:35Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > A minor league back-up bullpen catcher has to have better media training than this guy. [Yep](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094812/quotes?ref_=tt_ql_trv_4). > [@](#): > > Crash Davis: It’s time to work on your interviews. > > Ebby Calvin LaLoosh: My interviews? What do I gotta do? > > Crash Davis: You’re gonna have to learn your clichés. You’re gonna have to study them, you’re gonna have to know them. They’re your friends. Write this down: “We gotta play it one day at a time.” > > Ebby Calvin LaLoosh: Got to play… it’s pretty boring. > > Crash Davis: 'Course it’s boring, that’s the point. Write it down. Trump can’t even learn one cliche. It’s literally impossible for him to utter one coherent sentence. How the fuck is he still president? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33915 "2019-06-26T10:26:46Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Check out[Marco Gutierrez,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Gutierrez) allegedly the founder of L for T. > [@Wiki](#): > > Subsequently, the New York Daily News reported that he and his wife, Jennifer, had filed for personal bankruptcy fourteen times and that he had had his real estate license revoked. So, he’s a businessman cast in the same mold as Donnie. Makes sense he’d support the CFSG whole-heartedly. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33916 "2019-06-26T21:56:41Z")
> **[Senior EPA official steps down amid House ethics probe](https://apnews.com/article/3ee7968005fe48698ca84b074091a869)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — A top Environment Protection Agency official who helped lead the Trump administration's rollback of Obama-era restrictions of carbon emissions is resigning amid a congressional probe into whether he improperly aided former industry... > [@](#): > > A top Environment Protection Agency official who helped lead the Trump administration’s rollback of Obama-era restrictions of carbon emissions is resigning amid a congressional probe into whether he improperly aided former industry clients. > > EPA Assistant Administrator Bill Wehrum is expected to depart at the end of June. EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler announced Wehrum’s resignation on Wednesday, thanking him for his service and friendship. > > Ethics questions have dogged Wehrum since his 2017 nomination by President Donald Trump. He long represented the fossil fuels and chemical industries as a Washington lawyer. Narrowly confirmed by the Senate, Wehrum has helped lead EPA’s rollbacks of clean air and carbon emissions regulations that were opposed by his former private-sector clients. > > The Democratic-controlled House Energy and Commerce Committee opened an investigation in April following media reports questioning Wehrum’s compliance with ethics rules barring political appointees from acting on issues involving their former employers for at least two years. > > Documents obtained through a public records request by the Sierra Club showed Wehrum met with former clients and industry lawyers from his former firm without disclosing the contacts on his official calendar. He also gave a closed-door presentation last year to the Cooler Heads Coalition, a conservative pro-business group that seeks to raise doubts about mainstream climate science. > > Committee Chairman Frank Pallone Jr. vowed to continue the investigations into Wehrum’s conduct. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33917 "2019-06-26T23:09:48Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > In an interview published today, The Hill tossed the Idiot-in-Chief a softball question about whether his face should be added to Mt. Rushmore. > > [His response?](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/trump-delivers-utterly-bizarre-and-nonsensical-answer-when-asked-if-he-should-be-on-mt-rushmore/) > > How anyone can listen to the word salad emanating from this lunatic’s mouth-hole and think he’s mentally fit to hold office baffles me. I think it relates to [this](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/05/03/officials-knew-fireworks-at-mount-rushmore-could-cause-a-fire-but-they-didnt-expect-this/?utm_term=.d1afa63b2f5a). > [@](#): > > Fireworks at Mount Rushmore were probably a bad idea to begin with. In South Dakota’s woodsy Black Hills, the thousands of onlookers who flocked to the display had to use the same entrance, which is also the exit. > > What if the pyrotechnics sparked a forest fire? And what if there were some other emergency? Those are two questions that officials at the national memorial site grappled with during the 11 years starting in 1998 that the event was held. But there was at least one other threat, something officials at the national memorial didn’t consider until a U.S. Geological Survey investigation recently uncovered it in the drinking water. So if hundreds die in a mass conflagration, or thousands of local residents start having thyroid problems we know who to blame. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33918 "2019-06-26T23:16:46Z")
NM That song was nowhere near as good as I remembered… ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33919 "2019-06-26T23:23:28Z")
An [AP factchecker article](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/ap-fact-check-trump-accuses-mueller-of-a-crime/ar-AADsZTl?ocid=spartandhp) made me LOL with some unexpected snark. Most of it was written in typically dry, just-the-facts style. For example: > [@](#): > > Trump appears to be referring to the fact that the FBI, for technical reasons, was initially unable to retrieve months of text messages between the two officials. But the FBI was ultimately able to recover them and there’s never been any allegation that Mueller had anything to do with that process. But then a little while later, along came this paragraph: > [@](#): > > Trump persistently mischaracterizes trade in all its dimensions, giving the wrong numbers for trade deficits, asserting that tariffs did not exist before him, and portraying them inaccurately as a windfall for the government and taxpayers. In that respect, he was correct when he said in the interview, “I view tariffs differently than a lot of other people.” That is arch as fuck. Well played, Associated Press. Well played. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33920 "2019-06-27T01:30:38Z")
Trump needs a vacation. I hear the Dominican Republic is quite nice. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33921 "2019-06-27T03:15:20Z")
What have Dominicans done to you? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33922 "2019-06-27T03:25:53Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > What have Dominicans done to you? Ask not what the Dominicans have done _to_ you. Ask what the Dominicans can do _for_ you. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33923 "2019-06-27T04:21:56Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > What have Dominicans done to you? > [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Ask not what the Dominicans have done _to_ you. Ask what the Dominicans can do _for_ you. Or, as Trump would put it: > [@](#): > > What are the Dominicans doing for him _right now_? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33924 "2019-06-27T06:36:51Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Ask not what the Dominicans have done _to_ you. Ask what the Dominicans can do _for_ you. I have [a few ideas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%C3%A1s_de_Torquemada)… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1695) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1697)