# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 170
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3381 "2017-04-14T19:43:02Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > In Russia, you do not have threesome with Putin, threesome has Putin with YOU! It doesn’t matter how many there are, Putin tops you. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3382 "2017-04-14T20:18:46Z")
Apparently, Trump won’t voluntarily release White House visitor logs. Wonder who visits? ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3383 "2017-04-14T21:00:45Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > [Trump Is The White Marion Barry](https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisladd/2017/01/27/trump-is-the-white-marion-barry/#1818f5834bd2) That is great. I grew up just outside of DC. “The bitch set me up”. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3384 "2017-04-14T21:14:25Z")
Well this is special. [**U.S. Air Force test drops inert nuclear bomb**](https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/720cf09a-8c72-378b-a1d0-ba6551750809/ss_u.s.-air-force-test-drops.html) ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3385 "2017-04-14T21:19:13Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Apparently, Trump won’t voluntarily release White House visitor logs. Wonder who visits? Of course, Julie Mason did mention on NPR today that Obama administration only “voluntarily” released _some_ logs after huge pressure was applied, and the logs were very far from complete. ---
**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3386 "2017-04-14T21:28:27Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Of course, Julie Mason did mention on NPR today that Obama administration only “voluntarily” released _some_ logs after huge pressure was applied, and the logs were very far from complete. Why are we talking about Obama? I thought Trump assured us that his administration would be _more_ transparent than Obama’s. Now you’re saying it will be less? (Hint: “Some” logs \> “no” logs). ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3387 "2017-04-14T21:31:08Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Of course, Julie Mason did mention on NPR today that Obama administration only “voluntarily” released _some_ logs after huge pressure was applied, and the logs were very far from complete. Nice job linking, asshole. [NYTimes.](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/14/us/politics/visitor-log-white-house-trump.html) > [@](#): > > Although a federal court ruled in 2011 that the visitor logs could be kept secret, the Obama administration voluntarily provided many of the records. > > Lawyers still exercised what they maintained was a right to omit some entries from the logs, in the cases of confidential meetings such as interviews for prospective Supreme Court candidates. And the Obamas left out the names of celebrities and top donors who came to personal events at the White House, such as star-studded birthday celebrations for the president and his wife. Quite different from keeping _all_ the logs secret. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3388 "2017-04-14T21:31:28Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Of course, Julie Mason did mention on NPR today that Obama administration only “voluntarily” released _some_ logs after huge pressure was applied, and the logs were very far from complete. [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/14/us/politics/visitor-log-white-house-trump.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/14/us/politics/visitor-log-white-house-trump.html) Yes, Obama didn’t release ALL of them. He released about six million of the records, but fought to keep some under wraps. MUCH better to keep everything a secret. Transparency, Right? > [@](#): > > The decision reverses a move by the Obama administration, which released more than six million White House visitor records, even as it fought successfully in federal court to keep some of the information secret. It followed months of speculation over how President Trump, who has rejected basic standards of presidential transparency — including the release of his tax returns — would handle the matter of revealing who comes and goes at the White House. “Six million is greater than none” ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3389 "2017-04-14T21:32:56Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Our Vacation President today: [CNN: “As North Korea brews, Trump again in Mar-a-Lago”](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/14/politics/donald-trump-north-korea-mar-a-lago/index.html). This nugget from the article: > > _“I will say this, I think China has really been working very hard and I have really gotten to like and respect, as you know, President Xi. He’s a terrific person,” Trump said. “We spent a lot of time together in Florida and he’s a very special man so we’ll see how it goes.”_ > > He sounds like he’s had a couple of dates with the President of China and is now thinking of bringing him home to meet Melania. I guess we’ll see if he can get to second base with Xi, and maybe get a threesome going with Putin as well. > > Stranger I think Melania is the only one worth seeing naked out of that bunch, based on previous pictures. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3390 "2017-04-14T22:06:16Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Well this is special. [**U.S. Air Force test drops inert nuclear bomb**](https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/720cf09a-8c72-378b-a1d0-ba6551750809/ss_u.s.-air-force-test-drops.html) Well, I’m feeling all kinds of creeped out about that. I see no way that can be a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3391 "2017-04-14T22:10:47Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Well, I’m feeling all kinds of creeped out about that. I see no way that can be a good thing. It wasn’t a real bomb? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3392 "2017-04-14T23:02:57Z")
OK. There’s that not real thing. Other than that, we’re flexing our nuclear muscles publicly and ratcheting up tensions because??? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3393 "2017-04-14T23:09:40Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Well, I’m feeling all kinds of creeped out about that. I see no way that can be a good thing. That was almost certainly a preplanned test as part of the B61 aging and upgrade program. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2017, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3394 "2017-04-15T00:57:00Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > That was almost certainly a preplanned test as part of the B61 aging and upgrade program. > > Stranger I’m sure what you say is true. However, the North Koreans froth at the mouth over every planned military exercise with the US and South Korea and every real or imagined threat. Will they look at this test and go, “Pffft. No biggie.”? ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3395 "2017-04-15T02:15:00Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I think Melania is the only one worth seeing naked out of that bunch, based on previous pictures. Anything Trump has had his tiny little dick in, I have no interest. If Barron resembles the pool boy, you can get back to me. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3396 "2017-04-15T02:27:27Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Of course, Julie Mason did mention on NPR today that Obama administration only “voluntarily” released _some_ logs after huge pressure was applied, and the logs were very far from complete. Yessir, releasing nearly all the logs is exactly the same as releasing none. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2017, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3397 "2017-04-15T06:11:06Z")
The world is the closest it’s ever been to a nuclear conflict since 1980’s and Trump leaves the WH oh Thursday to take a 4 day weekend and play golf. If anyone still supports Trump at this point after seeing him flip flop on all the things he ran on (no uneccesary interventions, get mexico to pay for the wall, defeat ISIS in 30 days, repeal ACA, hard line on China, drain the swamp, no golf weekends etc etc etc) then I am just going to assume they’re a racist, of all the things Trump said making life difficult for those they think aren’t “real americans” is the one thing he’ll actually deliver on. There were other potential reasons someone could support Trump before, now there really is none, if you still support Trump it’s because you want white male supremacy, end of story. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2017, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3398 "2017-04-15T06:31:04Z")
White male Christian specifically anti-Muslim supremacy. ---
**Author:** ![Spherical\_Bus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Spherical\_Bus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spherical_Bus)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2017, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3399 "2017-04-15T06:37:45Z")
Agreed to the highest level. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2017, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3400 "2017-04-15T07:31:38Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I think Melania is the only one worth seeing naked out of that bunch, based on previous pictures. > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The world is slowly spiraling to WWIII and you deem it appropriate to comment on someone’s looks? You totally deserve Donald. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=169) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=171)