# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1700
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33985 "2019-06-29T04:13:32Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > A self-respecting Secretary of State, though, would certainly be annoyed if kept out of the loop on something like this. Bill Rogers was upset when he was kept out of the loop on recognizing China. And Nixon sent Kissinger. Imagine how much worse it must be to find out you’ve been set aside in favor of Jared Kushner. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33986 "2019-06-29T07:39:44Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > The staffer tasked with writing this click-bait/email-address-collector was clearly told “don’t repeat any responses.” > > Job done! I found the repetition of “President Trump” and various iterations of _honest_ in the same text to be oxymoronic. I’ve also been having an argument with a Canadian friend since Trump Putined into office about Trump keeping promises. He’s “impressed Trump is at leat trying to keep his promises”. If the promise you do keep is abhorrent, you are not a good person for keeping that promise. > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > People should choose the not-Trump options in the poll… and use the emails of Republican senators and representatives. Let _them_ get on the spam list! It’s not spam if you like it and probably are already on that list anyway. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Bill Rogers was upset when he was kept out of the loop on recognizing China. And Nixon sent Kissinger. Imagine how much worse it must be to find out you’ve been set aside in favor of Jared Kushner. You forget this is 45’s administration. Those fools revel in his “novel” approach to “getting things done”. They do not care. Plus they ain’t all that competent on their selected roles anyway. [Mister Sublimonal]Betsy DeVos[/Mister Subliminal] ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33987 "2019-06-30T03:20:15Z")
there was [this cartoon](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-Qu14uX4AYD5I1.jpg) [The cartoonist](http://deadder.net/) lost his contract for, I guess, tastelessness. Lost his contract with New Brunswick Papers, or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33988 "2019-06-30T05:58:04Z")
^^ That sums up Trump and the GOP in full. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33989 "2019-06-30T06:07:49Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > ^^ That sums up Trump and the GOP in full. As does the slogan, “Arbeit macht frei.” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33990 "2019-06-30T06:49:58Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > ^^ That sums up Trump and the GOP in full. The cartoon, or “tastelessness”? (“both” is an acceptable response) ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33991 "2019-06-30T06:57:29Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The cartoon, or “tastelessness”? > > (“both” is an acceptable response) Absolutely both! Compared to the daily orange-twat tweets we read, this cartoon is as pure as Disney. Would’ve been more accurate if the cart had tracks leading off the green. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33992 "2019-06-30T13:16:05Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …the poll isn’t the point. > > Its the email harvesting thats going on at the end of the poll thats important. > > Trump and his campaign are working with whatever it is [Cambridge Analytica](https://apnews.com/96928216bdc341ada659447973a688e4) turned into. They are [micro-targeting](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/26/facebook-finally-hands-over-leave-campaign-brexit-ads/) certain demographics of people: and this is exactly the sort of “poll” that would attract the people they are seeking to influence. > > If you did enter your real email address, it would be interesting to see if you start getting different adverts in Facebook, more direct-targeted spam emails, to see what it is they are up too. > [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > My real email isn’t “[eatme@yahoo.com](mailto:eatme@yahoo.com)”. If you’re correct, I feel sorry for whoever has that. There was a similar push poll for Trump on the main page of this very site. I answered all the questions ‘wrong’ then gave the email address suckmydickdonnie@[my domain].com which forwards to my real email address. So far no mail addressed to that address has shown up. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33993 "2019-06-30T13:23:13Z")
Double post ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33994 "2019-06-30T13:49:00Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > there was [this cartoon](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-Qu14uX4AYD5I1.jpg) > > [The cartoonist](http://deadder.net/) lost his contract for, I guess, tastelessness. Lost his contract with New Brunswick Papers, or something like that. “Paging Dr. Swift, Dr. Jonathan Swift…” ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33995 "2019-06-30T16:17:18Z")
While Trump meets with Kim, John Bolton is [sent to Mongolia](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/30/trump-and-kims-dmz-meeting-proves-more-than-just-a-photo-op). But, Tucker Carlson is in North Korea to substitute. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33996 "2019-06-30T17:11:07Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > There was a similar push poll for Trump on the main page of this very site. I answered all the questions ‘wrong’ then gave the email address suckmydickdonnie@[my domain].com which forwards to my real email address. So far no mail addressed to that address has shown up. Did you check the spam folder or your spam filter? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33997 "2019-07-01T09:14:18Z")
In response to the debate tiff between Harris and Biden, Trump has weighed in on the issue of [federally-mandated busing](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-stumps-with-take-on-school-busing): > [@](#): > > “And as far as that, I will tell you in about four weeks, because we’re coming out with a certain policy that’s going to be very interesting and very surprising, I think, to a lot of people,” Trump said after ABC’s Jonathan Karl asked if he had seen Sen. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden clash over school busing. > > NBC News’ Kristen Welker followed up the question by asking Trump if he thought busing was “a viable way of integrating schools.” > > “Well, that’s something that they’ve done for a long period of time. You know, there aren’t that many ways you’re going to get people to schools. So this is something that’s been done. In some cases, it’s been done with a hammer instead of a velvet glove,” Trump said. “But it is certainly a primary method of getting people to schools.” Or in short: - Trump says that he’s going to announce a new policy on federally-mandated busing. In 2019. He is correct that this will be “very surprising” to a lot of people, should it happen. - Trump thinks the whole busing issue was about transportation, even after being told it was about integration. The President of the United States, everyone. (There are various articles on this; I went with the Washington Examiner because they’re far-from-left-wing.) ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33998 "2019-07-01T13:38:19Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > In response to the debate tiff between Harris and Biden, Trump has weighed in on the issue of [federally-mandated busing](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-stumps-with-take-on-school-busing): > > Or in short: > > - Trump says that he’s going to announce a new policy on federally-mandated busing. In 2019. He is correct that this will be “very surprising” to a lot of people, should it happen. > - Trump thinks the whole busing issue was about transportation, even after being told it was about integration. > > The President of the United States, everyone. > > (There are various articles on this; I went with the Washington Examiner because they’re far-from-left-wing.) I see some potential opportunities for trolling Trump: at the next debate, get 2 candidates to get in an argument over who has the best plan for recovering Atlantis. Get a reporter to ask Trump for comment, and watch him announce that he’ll be releasing the best Atlantean-recovery plan ever in 2 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33999 "2019-07-01T13:59:00Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I see some potential opportunities for trolling Trump: at the next debate, get 2 candidates to get in an argument over who has the best plan for recovering Atlantis. Get a reporter to ask Trump for comment, and watch him announce that he’ll be releasing the best Atlantean-recovery plan ever in 2 weeks. And then listen to the MAGAts proclaim; “Yeah! About time somebody did something about the Atlantean problem!” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34000 "2019-07-01T14:12:21Z")
> [@slumtrimpet](#): > > And then listen to the MAGAts proclaim; “Yeah! About time somebody did something about the Atlantean problem!” > :rolleyes: I think we should get Trump and his flock to address the ongoing problems in Fredonia. Mocking them would be duck soup! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34001 "2019-07-01T14:43:45Z")
There was a nice picture of Kim and Individual-1 walking side by side. There was a certain glow about them. Did the news report what position they used? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34002 "2019-07-01T15:14:24Z")
> [@slumtrimpet](#): > > And then listen to the MAGAts proclaim; “Yeah! About time somebody did something about the Atlantean problem!” > :rolleyes: Build a (big, beautiful) wall between the US and Atlantis. Which the Atlanteans would pay for, of course. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34003 "2019-07-01T15:24:33Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Build a (big, beautiful) wall between the US and Atlantis. Which the Atlanteans would pay for, of course. A seawall, which we know Trump believes can be useful: [Trump dismisses the economic impact of climate change — except at his golf course](https://www.vox.com/2018/11/27/18114338/trump-climate-change-assessment-golf-course-ireland) “I don’t believe it,” Trump says, but his business dealings indicate otherwise. > [@](#): > > But Trump has taken a very different attitude when it comes to the business he owns. > > As Politico detailed during the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump International Golf Links sought to build a seawall to protect a golf course he owns in Ireland from “global warming and its effects.” > > In a permit application for the wall, Trump International Golf Links cited scientific studies indicating that a rise in sea level could result in damaging erosion in a bay near the golf course. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34004 "2019-07-01T16:08:15Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Did you check the spam folder or your spam filter? Yup. I get regular emails in there from girls with Russian-sounding names who can’t wait to see me so I clean it out about once a week. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1699) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1701)