# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34145 "2019-07-05T17:11:36Z")

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As the days stretch into weeks, and the weeks to months, the lack of duty free shopping weighs heavy on the men. Parking is scarce. My hope of an on-time departure is all that sustains me in these dark times.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34146 "2019-07-05T17:44:26Z")

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Individual 1 is considering issuing an executive order requiring the citizenship question on the census.

> **[Trump considering executive order on citizenship question for census](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/451749-trump-considering-executive-order-on-citizenship-question-for-census/)**
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> President Trump told reporters on Friday that he is considering an executive order to ensure a citizenship question is included on the U.S. census.Trump told reporters on the White House lawn that …

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34147 "2019-07-05T18:33:18Z")

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[The conference call today about the census](https://apnews.com/72bd7c0e6bcb4ec5ac469d8023b44bee) was amazing!

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> Mexican American Legal Defense Fund president and general counsel Thomas Saenz says **government lawyers told U.S. District Judge George Hazel they have no clear instructions about how to proceed**.

I’ll post a link to the transcript ASAP.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34148 "2019-07-05T19:13:36Z")

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Little known fact: if Paul Revere didn’t do TSA Precheck, he would not have been able to get so quickly through checkout and warn that the British was coming.

#RevolutionaryWarAirportStories

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34149 "2019-07-05T19:46:59Z")

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Three if by air!

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34150 "2019-07-05T19:54:29Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Three if by air!

Shit! No fuel in the third lantern! We’re doomed!

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34151 "2019-07-05T19:56:50Z")

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When we finally drive the British athwart,  
Lafayette is there waiting at [Martin State Airport!](https://www.martinstateairport.com/)

(I know, that’s not what “athwart” means. LMM took plenty of poetic license with word meaning.)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34152 "2019-07-05T20:16:03Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> Shit! No fuel in the third lantern! We’re doomed!

Switch to batteries!!!

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34153 "2019-07-05T20:26:35Z")

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My dearest Gwendolyn,

I fear the fiery pangs of your absence shall once again beat down upon my miserable visage as a three hour lay over in Cleveland threatens to stall our charge. We are left to fend for ourselves for whatever sundry we may have in our carry-on’s and one lone Sbarro at terminal 13B. The hardtack and calzones will only last so long.

Til we meet again,  
Beauregard G. Raisinhead esq.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34154 "2019-07-05T21:09:29Z")

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Flying water tankers. Must act quickly!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34155 "2019-07-05T22:05:53Z")

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[Trump thinks the presidential plane is Aircraft One](https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/twitter-mocks-president-trump-for-aircraft-one-typo-does-anyone-onboard-know-how-to-run-a-country-213130322.html)  
You know, to transport Individual One.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34156 "2019-07-05T22:08:14Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [Trump thinks the presidential plane is Aircraft One](https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/twitter-mocks-president-trump-for-aircraft-one-typo-does-anyone-onboard-know-how-to-run-a-country-213130322.html)  
> You know, to transport Individual One.

Not many people know it needs tugboats to take off and land.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34157 "2019-07-05T23:17:21Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> “Rammed the ramparts”?!??

Loser Donald never reads his speeches before giving them, so when he saw “manned the ramparts” and had never heard of a rampart before, he lost the plot and wound up babbling about airports.

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**Author:** ![Marine\_One](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marine_one/32/3461_2.png) [@Marine\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marine_One)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34158 "2019-07-05T23:25:27Z")

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Surely he doesn’t believe that there were airports!

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34159 "2019-07-05T23:39:51Z")

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> [@Marine\_One](#):
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> Surely he doesn’t believe that there were airports!

Take it from Trump, himself:

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> “And I guess the rain knocked out the teleprompter,” he said. “I knew the speech very well. So I was able to do without a teleprompter, but the teleprompter did go out and it was actually hard to look at anyway because [there] was rain all over it.”

He’s asserting he knew what he was he was saying at the time, right? Surely Trump wouldn’t try to mislead the American people.

[Trump says malfunctioning teleprompter to blame for ‘airport’ gaffe in July 4th speech](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-malfunctioning-teleprompter-to-blame-for-airport-gaffe-in-july-4-speech)

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34160 "2019-07-06T00:16:20Z")

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An oldie but goodie:

> **[Help Us Diagram This Sentence by Donald Trump!](https://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2015/07/31/donald_trump_this_run_on_sentence_from_a_speech_in_sun_city_south_carolina.html)**
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> At the Slate Political Gabfest's live D.C. show this week, Emily, David, and John tried to diagram a sentence uttered in Sun City, South Carolina, on J ...

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> Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you’re a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.

So he was like driving up the 101 to San Fran and somehow ended up on Jupiter.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34161 "2019-07-06T00:46:03Z")

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I would really like to have someone ask him when the Revolutionary War was.

_Trump : “Long time ago, nobody remembers”_

I would also like someone to ask him if the number 1776 rings a bell.

_Trump : “Great number, great number. I have many 1776. I have a bell too. It’s gold best bell ever”_

Then, ask him how many airports were on the east coast that we captured during the Revolutionary War.

_Trump : “There are many great airports on the east cost. I’m from the east coast ya know. They love me. All airports love me.”_

And also, ask him how many battles we won against the Chinese during the revolutionary war.

_Trump : “We have the Chinese where we want them. We won the war and they did not complain. I really like the Chinese, I learn so much. I like rice pudding.”_

I have trees in my yard that have more insight than Trump does.

And fuck, I can speak Trump.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34162 "2019-07-06T01:25:10Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I would really like to have someone ask him when the Revolutionary War was.
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> _Trump : “Long time ago, nobody remembers”_
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> I would also like someone to ask him if the number 1776 rings a bell.
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> _Trump : “Great number, great number. I have many 1776. I have a bell too. It’s gold best bell ever”_
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> Then, ask him how many airports were on the east coast that we captured during the Revolutionary War.
> 
> _Trump : “There are many great airports on the east cost. I’m from the east coast ya know. They love me. All airports love me.”_
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> And also, ask him how many battles we won against the Chinese during the revolutionary war.
> 
> _Trump : “We have the Chinese where we want them. We won the war and they did not complain. I really like the Chinese, I learn so much. I like rice pudding.”_
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> I have trees in my yard that have more insight than Trump does.
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> And fuck, I can speak Trump.

FAKE NEWS!!! I speak it bigly. I have the best people. Everyone says that about me.

Ugh. That probably IS a real quote.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34163 "2019-07-06T05:11:44Z")

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July 4, 2019  
Border agents make a migrant walk around wearing an “I Like Men” sign.

> **[Border Patrol agents allegedly tried to shame a migrant by making him hold a...](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/04/us/honduran-migrant-shamed-border-patrol)**
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> US Customs and Border Patrol agents at a migrant processing center in Texas allegedly attempted to humiliate a Honduran migrant by making him hold a sign that read, "I like men," according to emails written by an agent who witnessed the incident.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34164 "2019-07-06T05:48:47Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Even with speechwriters, Trump is still an idiot about this country’s history (among many, many other topics). And, in contrast with the Macrons’ knowledge of the US, what would Trump know of French history?

Many years ago, I had to switch planes in Philadelphia, with several hours in between. I said “well, it’s a historically-important city, I’m sure there are many interesting things to see, and I may never be able to set foot there again, so I’m going to use that time to go downtown get a look-see\*.” Having only a vague idea about what made Philadelphia important, I looked it up a bit before taking the plane so I already knew where the main monuments and the tourist office were, and where to take one of those hop-on, hop-off buses. And I was just a nobody: if I’d been representing my country in a visit to Wherever, I would have considered it my professional and civic duty to brush up beforehand.

Trump can’t even be arsed do that when the visit is in his own country :smack:

- One of the times my crystal ball was very much offline. For about 15 years, the picture I got taken with Independence Bell during that trip was my go-to “send me a pic” photo. And for a year, my desk was some 15m away from the spot where the pic was taken (well, a bit further if you didn’t just crash through the window).

Back to the Census stuff, that’s one of those things which are complete opposites for Spain and the US. I already was conscious of how we have what we call the “permanent census”, where you register your main residence with City Hall and that is your register for voting, for local taxes and for all kinds of public services; y’all have a separate voting registry and a census which is run periodically.

But regarding the citizenship question, in the US there’s people who are afraid that admitting their Cousin Rita was visiting from Panama may get them a visit from ICE (Cousin Rita was actually and truly visiting, she wasn’t living in the house, but she was there when the census was taken); in Spain one of the problems of inmigrants (specially but not limited to undocumented ones) is that landlords who don’t want to declare income from rent refuse to give them the documents they need in order to register for the Census, and being able to prove that you’ve lived in the country for X time is an important part of getting and keeping your paperwork straight. So, that register is viewed in completely opposite ways.

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