# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1712
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34225 "2019-07-09T19:05:04Z")
More classical psychological projection from Trump: [Trump calls British ambassador a ‘very stupid guy’ and a ‘pompous fool’](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/trump-calls-british-ambassador-avery-stupid-guy-and-apompous-fool/2019/07/09/6fb31d8c-a241-11e9-b732-41a79c2551bf_story.html?utm_term=.ff217eb8bf89) > [@](#): > > LONDON — The special relationship between the United States and Britain descended into name-calling on Tuesday, with President Trump tweeting that the British ambassador is “wacky” and “a very stupid guy” and “a pompous fool.” If Trump wants to see a stupid, pompous fool, he only needs to look in the mirror. Unfortunately, Trump can’t figure out how to talk over the guy he sees there, the one that won’t shut up while he’s talking. ---
**Author:** ![Lacunae\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lacunae\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lacunae_Matata)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34226 "2019-07-09T20:14:15Z")
[https://www.donaldjtrump.com/landing/2020-trump-vs-dem-poll](https://www.donaldjtrump.com/landing/2020-trump-vs-dem-poll) Sorry, my phone isn’t letting me make the link pretty right now. But y’all gotta see the latest Trump campaign poll! ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34227 "2019-07-09T20:23:55Z")
> [@Lacunae\_Matata](#): > > [https://www.donaldjtrump.com/landing/2020-trump-vs-dem-poll](https://www.donaldjtrump.com/landing/2020-trump-vs-dem-poll) > > Sorry, my phone isn’t letting me make the link pretty right now. But y’all gotta see the latest Trump campaign poll! To joyfully Goodwinize this thread once more: you could either replace every option 1 or every option 2 in this poll with “Hitler”, and it would make as much sense. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34228 "2019-07-09T20:39:26Z")
Of course the British ambassador is pompous. He’s _British_. Next Trump is going to try and burn the French ambassador for being arrogant and the Russian ambassador for being coldly calculating. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34229 "2019-07-09T20:45:35Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Of course the British ambassador is pompous. He’s _British_. Next Trump is going to try and burn the French ambassador for being arrogant and the Russian ambassador for being coldly calculating. Actually, Trump is more likely invite the Russian ambassador into the Oval Office for another round of telling him classified US intel. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34230 "2019-07-09T21:13:20Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Of course the British ambassador is pompous. He’s _British_. Next Trump is going to try and burn the French ambassador for being arrogant and the Russian ambassador for being coldly calculating. Actually, Trump is more likely invite the Russian ambassador into the Oval Office for another round of telling him classified US intel. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34231 "2019-07-10T01:20:02Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > More classical psychological projection from Trump: > > [Trump calls British ambassador a ‘very stupid guy’ and a ‘pompous fool’](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/trump-calls-british-ambassador-avery-stupid-guy-and-apompous-fool/2019/07/09/6fb31d8c-a241-11e9-b732-41a79c2551bf_story.html?utm_term=.ff217eb8bf89) I can think of no greater compliment than to be insulted by Trump. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34232 "2019-07-10T02:47:27Z")
> [@Lacunae\_Matata](#): > > [https://www.donaldjtrump.com/landing/2020-trump-vs-dem-poll](https://www.donaldjtrump.com/landing/2020-trump-vs-dem-poll) > > Sorry, my phone isn’t letting me make the link pretty right now. But y’all gotta see the latest Trump campaign poll! The most annoying thing about that poll is they give you no way to look at the tally. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34233 "2019-07-10T03:21:13Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I can think of no greater compliment than to be insulted by Trump. Megan Rapinoe will get her chance > **[Megan Rapinoe to Trump: ‘Your message is excluding people’ | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/09/politics/megan-rapinoe-anderson-cooper-trump-cnntv/index.html)** > > US women’s soccer captain Megan Rapinoe challenged President Donald Trump on Tuesday night to start showing he cares for every single American, saying his message is excluding groups of Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34234 "2019-07-10T03:27:11Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The most annoying thing about that poll is they give you no way to look at the tally. Well, of course not. It’s for Trump, after all. He’ll just make up the numbers. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34235 "2019-07-10T03:31:24Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Megan Rapinoe will get her chance > > [https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/09/politics/megan-rapinoe-anderson-cooper-trump-cnntv/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/09/politics/megan-rapinoe-anderson-cooper-trump-cnntv/index.html) [In a way, she has.](https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/polls/rapinoe-42-trump-41/) > [@](#): > > By popular demand PPP tested how a Megan Rapinoe v. Donald Trump 2020 match up would shake out, and we found that Rapinoe gets 42% to 41% for Trump. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34236 "2019-07-10T03:34:59Z")
I’m surprised that her advantage is so low. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34237 "2019-07-10T03:44:47Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I’m surprised that her advantage is so low. The article points out that that is pretty much Trump’s standing against _any_ opponent - he always polls (up to this point) at around 40%-42%. I find the last two paragraphs rather interesting (and comforting): > [@](#): > > In addition to having a slight edge over Trump already, Rapinoe has a lot more room for growth. The voters who are undecided in the Rapinoe/Trump head to head voted for Hillary Clinton by 58 points and just 8% of them approve of the job Trump is doing to 82% who disapprove. They’re likely undecided either because they’re not familiar with Rapinoe or aren’t sure about her as a Presidential candidate, but given their past voting history and feelings about Trump, it seems unlikely they’ll end up in his camp. > > Rapinoe may be an unlikely Presidential candidate but her numbers still speak to a broader truth about Trump’s standing- **the fact that he polls in the low 40s against any Democrat he gets tested against shows that electability concerns are overrated and Democrats should feel comfortable voting for the candidates they like the best, not just the ones they think have the best chance of beating Trump.** Emphasis mine. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34238 "2019-07-10T14:17:55Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Megan Rapinoe will get her chance > > [https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/09/politics/megan-rapinoe-anderson-cooper-trump-cnntv/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/09/politics/megan-rapinoe-anderson-cooper-trump-cnntv/index.html) Twittler already took a shot at her back on 6/26: \*\*Women’s soccer player, @mPinoe, just stated that she is “not going to the F…ing White House if we win.” Other than the NBA, which now refuses to call owners, owners (please explain that I just got Criminal Justice Reform passed, Black unemployment is at the lowest level… …in our Country’s history, and the poverty index is also best number EVER), leagues and teams love coming to the White House. I am a big fan of the American Team, and Women’s Soccer, but Megan should WIN first before she TALKS! Finish the job! We haven’t yet… …invited Megan or the team, but I am now inviting the TEAM, win or lose. Megan should never disrespect our Country, the White House, or our Flag, especially since so much has been done for her & the team. Be proud of the Flag that you wear. The USA is doing GREAT! \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34239 "2019-07-10T14:26:19Z")
What does “Other than the NBA, which now refuses to call owners” mean? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34240 "2019-07-10T15:03:06Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > What does “Other than the NBA, which now refuses to call owners” mean? Excuse me, I speak Trump: > **[NBA Commissioner Adam Silver suggests league will move away from using term...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-said-basketball-league-may-phase-out-use-of-the-term-owner/)** > > The change was made due to concerns that the term "owner" can be viewed as racially insensitive in a league where the vast majority of players are African American ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34241 "2019-07-10T15:17:48Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Excuse me, I speak Trump: > > [NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said basketball league may phase out use of the term "owner" - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-said-basketball-league-may-phase-out-use-of-the-term-owner/) Ah. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34242 "2019-07-10T15:36:35Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Twittler already took a shot at her back on 6/26: > > \*\*Women’s soccer player, @mPinoe, just stated that she is “not going to the F…ing White House if we win.” Other than the NBA, which now refuses to call owners, owners (please explain that I just got Criminal Justice Reform passed, Black unemployment is at the lowest level… > …in our Country’s history, and the poverty index is also best number EVER), leagues and teams love coming to the White House. I am a big fan of the American Team, and Women’s Soccer, but Megan should WIN first before she TALKS! Finish the job! We haven’t yet… > …invited Megan or the team, but I am now inviting the TEAM, win or lose. Megan should never disrespect our Country, the White House, or our Flag, especially since so much has been done for her & the team. Be proud of the Flag that you wear. The USA is doing GREAT! > \*\* First off, the women did WIN. Second, it’s not “our Country, the White House, or our Flag” that Rapinoe doesn’t respect–it’s you, Trump, because you’re a bigot who’s too dim-witted to have a substantive conversation with about the issues that concern her. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34243 "2019-07-10T15:42:30Z")
_Washington Post_ opinion piece: [Women see a familiar, ghastly pattern in the Trump White House](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/09/women-see-familiar-ghastly-pattern/?utm_term=.16328772a71e) > [@](#): > > You’ve seen this before. A man associated with President Trump — his former White House staff secretary Rob Porter, Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore, Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh and Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta — is part of a story in which women or girls were allegedly abused, mistreated and/or sexually molested. There was pictorial evidence Porter abused his spouse. There were multiple, credible accounts of women who claimed Moore abused them as girls. Kavanaugh was accused of sexual assault by Christine Blasey Ford (who told witnesses about the allegation years earlier). Acosta’s plea deal for Jeffrey Epstein was widely criticized by those involved in the case and was illegally crafted in secret to avoid allowing witnesses to know and object. > > Trump comes out with a variety of excuses to the men: He was “no fan” of Epstein. Acosta’s deplorable plea deal that allowed Epstein to escape justice was a long time ago. Moore denied the claims. Kavanaugh denied the claims. > > Trump expresses appreciation for the accused man. Porter and Acosta were doing a great job, you see. Trump calls evidence from female witnesses “fake news” or claims eyewitness testimony (even by multiple witnesses) is not “corroborated” (as if that were a defense anyway). He says the males were treated very unfairly. Trump suggests the great risk is not that men like Kavanaugh (rich, white lawyers) are held accountable for their crimes but that women make false claims (which make up a tiny percentage of cases in sex crimes, no higher than false reports for other crimes). Trump does not expresses horror, concern or sympathy for the women involved. Well, this is one area where Trump has outdone Bill Clinton. MAGA!!! ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34244 "2019-07-10T15:52:54Z")
Did you know the forest floors are dirty? And I bet the leaves are a hundred feet high in places since no one cleans them up. The answer, of course, is forest management. What a concept! It’s hard to believe no one understood that until now. > [@Donald "Sir" Trump](#): > > I went to the fires in California and I said, “It’s also management.” It’s a lot of things happening, but it’s management. You can’t have dirty floors. You can’t have 20 years of leaves and fallen trees. After the first 17 months, they say the tree is like a piece of tinder. You have to be very careful. So you can’t have that. That’s why you have so many fires. > > And I will say this: Spoke with the Governor of California, spoke with many people, and the process of cleaning is now really taking precedent. It — a lot of people are looking at forest management. It’s a word that people didn’t understand last year. Now they’re getting it. And you don’t have to have any forest fires. It’s interesting. > > I spoke to certain countries, and they said, “Sir, we’re a forest nation.” I never thought of a country — well-known countries: “We’re a forest nation.” I never heard of the term “forest nation.” They live in forests and they don’t have problems. > > One was telling me that his trees are much more susceptible to fire than what they have in California, but they don’t have fires because they manage, they clean, they do what you have to do. There’s not so much to burn. And we’re going to start doing that. And it’s called, remember, “management.” It’s called “forest management.” So it’s a very important term. > > When I went to California, they sort of scoffed at me for the first two weeks and maybe three weeks, and not so much — four weeks. (Laughter.) And after about five weeks they said, “You know, he’s right. He’s right.” Maybe he should put together a work force to manage the forests. Create more jobs! Call it the Forest Service or something. Hey - Forest Force! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1711) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1713)