# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1716
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34305 "2019-07-12T14:17:45Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I would love this to be every response by everyone to his every tweet. Crowds should gather in protest and shout “What A Putz!”. Holding signs and wearing t-shirts that say, “What A Putz!”. It should become a national mantra. I’ll do my part! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34306 "2019-07-12T14:45:30Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > [Mainstream media is not free speech.](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-media-free-speech_n_5d282394e4b0bd7d1e1a0592) > > > [@](#): > > > > “See, I don’t think that the mainstream media is free speech either because it’s so crooked. It’s so dishonest. So to me, free speech is not when you see something good and then you purposely write bad. To me, that’s very dangerous speech, and you become angry at it. But that’s not free speech.” > > What a putz. Sooo…he’s saying that LYING is not free speech? Well, then! :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34307 "2019-07-12T15:19:51Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Acosta resigning. > > [https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1149675087433359363](https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1149675087433359363) Another chance for an Acting Cabinet Secretary! Win! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34308 "2019-07-12T15:25:39Z")
"… So to me, free speech is not when you see something good and then you purposely write bad. To me, that’s very dangerous speech, and you become angry at it. But that’s not free speech.” I can’t even begin to imagine what examples he thinks of that would constitute “something good” about his time in office. I know he’s frustrated that people don’t write about how great he is more often, but I’m at a loss for examples of him actually doing “something good.” ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34309 "2019-07-12T15:29:56Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > "… So to me, free speech is not when you see something good and then you purposely write bad. To me, that’s very dangerous speech, and you become angry at it. But that’s not free speech.” > > I can’t even begin to imagine what examples he thinks of that would constitute “something good” about his time in office. I know he’s frustrated that people don’t write about how great he is more often, but I’m at a loss for examples of him actually doing “something good.” He got bump-stocks banned. But that pales in comparison to all the gun control laws passed during the Obama Administration. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34310 "2019-07-12T15:47:38Z")
Caught some Fox “news” last night where a panel was discussing the census and how the citizenship question would not be on it now. They seemed to have a hard time understanding how asking that innocent question is problem. Why, it’s been asked in the past and nobody complained. Yeah, in 1950. But now, in Trump’s America? How disingenuous are you folks? And to prove that point, without them showing any self-awareness, this segment was followed by a discussion on the ICE raids to happen this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34311 "2019-07-12T15:57:08Z")
Faux viewers think the question and the raids are wonderful. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34312 "2019-07-12T16:05:02Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Faux viewers think the question and the raids are wonderful. Yeah, I know. But I also know that the panel knows exactly what’s going on and they put on this show. Sometimes it’s hard to wrap my head around people being so blatantly dishonest. But that’s what I get for checking in with Fox. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34313 "2019-07-12T16:33:41Z")
“Gorka and other far-right media personalities were given choice seats for Trump’s brief Rose Garden event in which [he announced he’s giving up his quest to add a citizenship question to the census](https://www.vox.com/2019/7/11/20689015/census-citizenship-question-trump-executive-order) but will try to gather citizenship information by other means. Right after it ended, Gorka strode up to Playboy reporter Brian Karem, a fixture of the White House press corps who at times [has been an outspoken critic](https://thinkprogress.org/sarah-sanders-immigrant-family-separation-brian-karem-jim-acosta-0769ebb64470/) of the Trump administration, and called him a “punk.” “You’re not a journalist — you’re a punk!” Gorka yelled. “And for the record, he would kick your punk ass,” another summit attendee said to Karem, as others chanted “Gor-ka! Gor-ka!” …” > **[Trump’s social media summit was a circus. Its aftermath was even worse.](https://www.vox.com/2019/7/12/20691529/trump-social-media-summit-gorka-karem)** > > This is what happens when the right-wing fringe is emboldened and empowered. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34314 "2019-07-12T16:43:27Z")
_Idiocracy_ was too optimistic. Time for a gritty reboot. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34315 "2019-07-12T16:54:51Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > _Idiocracy_ was too optimistic. Time for a gritty reboot. A _slimy_ reboot. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34316 "2019-07-12T16:56:15Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > “Gorka and other far-right media personalities were given choice seats for Trump’s brief Rose Garden event in which [he announced he’s giving up his quest to add a citizenship question to the census](https://www.vox.com/2019/7/11/20689015/census-citizenship-question-trump-executive-order) but will try to gather citizenship information by other means. Right after it ended, Gorka strode up to Playboy reporter Brian Karem, a fixture of the White House press corps who at times [has been an outspoken critic](https://thinkprogress.org/sarah-sanders-immigrant-family-separation-brian-karem-jim-acosta-0769ebb64470/) of the Trump administration, and called him a “punk.” > “You’re not a journalist — you’re a punk!” Gorka yelled. > “And for the record, he would kick your punk ass,” another summit attendee said to Karem, as others chanted “Gor-ka! Gor-ka!” …” > > [Trump’s social media summit was a circus. Its aftermath was even worse. | Vox](https://www.vox.com/2019/7/12/20691529/trump-social-media-summit-gorka-karem) My kid was in the same graduating H.S. class as Gorka’s kid. Pretty much everyone in the class thought the kid was as big an a-hole as his father. I saw Gorka at the graduation and he is just as repulsive a toad in person as you would imagine. I’d have happily punched him in the mouth given the excuse to do so. Loathsome fucking troll. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34317 "2019-07-12T16:59:21Z")
[Top Trump Departures](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1149681104229752832): Flynn Walsh Comey Dubke McFarland Spicer Priebus Mooch Bannon Gorka Icahn Price Powell Manigault McCabe Porter Raffel Hicks Cohn Tillerson McMaster Shulkin Anton Bossert Pruitt Short Haley Sessions Kelly Ayers Zinke Mattis Shine McMahon Nielsen Sanders Acosta ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34318 "2019-07-12T17:22:58Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Ooh, Trump will make him a martyr! Or, Trump will start to insult him. Or, hell, who can predict? He feigned outrage today, along the lines of “He’s Hispanic! And went to Harvard! I thought you people loved that stuff!” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34319 "2019-07-12T17:24:03Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > "… So to me, free speech is not when you see something good and then you purposely write bad. To me, that’s very dangerous speech, and you become angry at it. But that’s not free speech.” > > I can’t even begin to imagine what examples he thinks of that would constitute “something good” about his time in office. I know he’s frustrated that people don’t write about how great he is more often, but I’m at a loss for examples of him actually doing “something good.” Just watch Fox & Friends; they’ll fill you in. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34320 "2019-07-12T17:52:54Z")
Carla Provost, the chief of Border Patrol, was a member of the secret racist and sexist Facebook page and even posted on it. > **[Border Patrol Chief Carla Provost Was a Member of Secret Facebook Group](https://theintercept.com/2019/07/12/border-patrol-chief-carla-provost-was-a-member-of-secret-facebook-group/)** > > Three months after her appointment as chief of the Border Patrol, Carla Provost posted in the “I’m 10-15” Facebook group. * * * Individual 1’s choice for Secretary of Labor supported sweat shop working conditions in US territories. > **[Donald Trump's pick to run the labor department promoted sweatshops on remote...](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/trump-pick-to-run-labor-department-promoted-sweatshops-on-remote-us-islands/)** > > Patrick Pizzella worked with Jack Abramoff to organize congressional junkets to this "laboratory of liberty.” * * * July 12, 2019 The federal government is running out of money because of Individual 1’s tax cuts, and the Secretary of Treasury is trying to get Nancy Pelosi to raise the debt ceiling. Isn’t that on the Republicans who refuse to vote to raise the debt ceiling? [US government is running out of money faster than expected, Mnuchin warns | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/12/politics/mnuchin-congress-letter-debt-crisis/index.html)? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34321 "2019-07-12T18:09:09Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > [Top Trump Departures](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1149681104229752832): I don’t think we can leave Anthony Scaramucci off the list. I know the Mooch was only part of the Trump administration for ten days but it was fun to watch this Trump wannabee crash. It proved that even Donald Trump doesn’t like himself when his personality is present in another body. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34322 "2019-07-12T18:58:52Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I don’t think we can leave Anthony Scaramucci off the list. I know the Mooch was only part of the Trump administration for ten days but it was fun to watch this Trump wannabee crash. It proved that even Donald Trump doesn’t like himself when his personality is present in another body. Mooch is there. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34323 "2019-07-12T19:50:11Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > [Top Trump Departures](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1149681104229752832): > > Flynn > Walsh > Comey > Dubke > McFarland > Spicer > Priebus > Mooch > Bannon > Gorka > Icahn > Price > Powell > Manigault > McCabe > Porter > Raffel > Hicks > Cohn > Tillerson > McMaster > Shulkin > Anton > Bossert > Pruitt > Short > Haley > Sessions > Kelly > Ayers > Zinke > Mattis > Shine > McMahon > Nielsen > Sanders > Acosta Manafort Lewinski Broidy (appointed to the RNC finance committee) Cohen (ditto) Mattis Dowd McGahn Rosenstein Whitaker ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34324 "2019-07-12T21:42:38Z")
Read today that Trump in the last week has overtaken Ford for number of days as President of the United States. Given how benign Ford was and how bombastic Trump is it took me a little aback that 45 has only just passed 38. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1715) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1717)