# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1722
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34425 "2019-07-15T17:59:21Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > It’s working for them now but what’s going to happen in years to come as more minorities are voters? I believe the plans are: - Gerrymandering - Voter suppression for minorities, urban areas - Challenging/intimidating minorities at the polls - Denying/impeding/detroying voter registration for selected areas/people - Arresting, jailing and removing the vote from as many minorities as possible - Demonizing minorities as “communist” or “hating America” Especially minority politicians - Finally, removing the vote from anyone not deemed “A Real American” (white) There may be more and more minorities OF VOTING AGE. But that will not translate into more minority voters if the Republicans have their way. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34426 "2019-07-15T18:21:49Z")
In particular, you can do a search for the gerrymandering work of one Thomas Hofeller, a Republican strategist who did redistricting work across the country. And in particular in North Carolina, which is embroiled in a big redistricting fight. After his death, his estranged daughter leaked several documents directly showing there was a strategy to draw districts along racial lines (contradicting several Republicans) to reduce Dem districts by suppressing minority votes and favoring non-Hispanic whites. [Here](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/hofeller-republican-gerrymandering-north-carolina.html)’s one such article on it, but there’s no shortage of them out there. So, yes, there are certainly concerns about minority voting and demographics and plans were set in motion years ago to deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34427 "2019-07-15T20:12:30Z")
Nancy Pelosi pointed out that when Trump says MAGA, he really means “Make America White Again”. Now Trump is saying that Pelosi said that herself and that she’s racist for saying it (which I guess she technically did in the context of interpreting Trump’s own tweets). :smack: ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34428 "2019-07-15T20:42:54Z")
He’s punctuation-impaired. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34429 "2019-07-15T21:29:31Z")
Here’s [a photo of Trump’s notes](https://twitter.com/jabinbotsford/status/1150855138086707200) from speaking today. I was drawn to the handwritten words in the top-right. “Some People” immediately brought to mind one of Trump’s stock phrases, “Some people are saying…” What’s the word above? It looks like: ALCaiDa Could it be “Some people are saying Al-Qaeda… [are coming through the Mexican border]”? I didn’t listen to his speech. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34430 "2019-07-15T21:42:04Z")
I don’t know if I’m going to make it to 2020. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34431 "2019-07-15T21:49:40Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Here’s [a photo of Trump’s notes](https://twitter.com/jabinbotsford/status/1150855138086707200) from speaking today. > > I was drawn to the handwritten words in the top-right. “Some People” immediately brought to mind one of Trump’s stock phrases, “Some people are saying…” “Some Peopel” ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34432 "2019-07-15T22:00:13Z")
Upon further investigation, it appears that the ‘ALCaiDa’ note was a reminder to attack Rep. Ilhan Omar for being an Al-Qaeda supporter ([which isn’t true](https://theweek.com/speedreads/852857/trumps-false-al-qaeda-accusation-against-rep-ilhan-omar-planned--misspelled)). ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34433 "2019-07-15T22:08:23Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The Republican leadership have made it very clear that if you criticize Trump for anything - for ANYthing… then you are a communist, and you hate the country. > > For Republicans, Trump IS the embodiment of the country. Love Dear Leader or Leave. Obey Dear Leader or Get Out. > > Anyone who does not obey Dear Leader hates the country. This is a clear and obvious fact for the Right. They are genuinely confused about why anyone would disagree with The Supreme Leader. 😕 That makes no sense. It’s the one you’re referring to as Dear Leader who hates America. It’s right there in his NAME, fertheluvvamike: “America-hating fuckstick.” ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34434 "2019-07-15T22:17:35Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The Republican leadership have made it very clear that if you criticize Trump for anything - for ANYthing… then you are a communist, and you hate the country. > > For Republicans, Trump IS the embodiment of the country. Love Dear Leader or Leave. Obey Dear Leader or Get Out. > > Anyone who does not obey Dear Leader hates the country. This is a clear and obvious fact for the Right. They are genuinely confused about why anyone would disagree with The Supreme Leader. I keep hoping for the one tweet that will bring his approval rating down a couple of points. Just 2 points! Well he has gone all in for "love it or leave it.’ And anyone wearing a MAGA hat is cheering this on. So he still has a 42% approval rating, I trust 538’s numbers. He will always have the approval of the 25%. We just need to get a few percentage points from the independants. But fuck it, as long as the economy is where it is now, that is not going to happen. Right? I don’t know. I think what it will come down to is voter turnout. I’ll bet Trump gets record turnout from the base. Does the Democrate candidate get that? Whoever it is, if it is Warrren or Harris or, especially Bernie, will be branded as a socialist (same thing as communist). And never underestimate the ignoance of the public about the difference. Or about what socialism is. I don’t know. I am a progressive, I would love to see Bernie get the nomination and win the election. I have never in my life voted for the candidate based on electability. And that candidate is Biden. I think Warren, and Harris, could win. But I am very sure Biden would win. I am a little tired of the “this is the most importand election in our lifetime” idea, but this one is. We simply cannot let Trump appoint more justices and judges. And I am very tired of “we can’t run a progressive candidate this time, we will have to settle for incremental change.” It is always “wait til next year.” Well, this time, with this fucking facist in the White House, incremental change will have to be enough. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34435 "2019-07-15T22:27:00Z")
Trump admits his admin uses “cages”. By blaming Obama, but still: > ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34436 "2019-07-16T00:16:54Z")
Well put, Mike Mabes. I’m not 100% sure Biden is the only way that will happen, but I feel you. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34437 "2019-07-16T01:34:20Z")
The final result of all this is that I am almost unbearably saddened at my fellow Americans. Never in my life would I have believed I could be brought to think so little of my countrymen and women. It may have cost votes but the truest thing Hillary ever said was to point out the deplorables among us. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34438 "2019-07-16T01:43:22Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > The final result of all this is that I am almost unbearably saddened at my fellow Americans. Never in my life would I have believed I could be brought to think so little of my countrymen and women. > It may have cost votes but the truest thing Hillary ever said was to point out the deplorables among us. Remember, she said that only HALF of Trump supporters were in the Basket of deplorables. 25%, of course, were too shitty and disgusting to even make it into the basket. And the other 25% were just fucking idiots. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34439 "2019-07-16T02:47:26Z")
OK, I’ve finally had enough. Mods, would you please ban Trump for blatant trolling? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34440 "2019-07-16T03:16:30Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > OK, I’ve finally had enough. Mods, would you please ban Trump for blatant trolling? If this actually works, we’re all going to be fucking pissed that we didn’t think of trying it two years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34441 "2019-07-16T03:18:30Z")
We’re gonna need a bigger banhammer. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34442 "2019-07-16T03:37:46Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > We’re gonna need a bigger banhammer. Should ban him from orbit - its the only way to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34443 "2019-07-16T05:00:36Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > He’s making it pretty clear that his vision for “Making America Great Again” is to get rid of all minorities,whether they were born here or not. > > And this pleases his base, and the Republican party. Just look at the amount of pushback he’s getting from his party over this overt plan to purge the country of ethnic citizens - none. > > But hey. The armbands have little american flags, not swastikas, so it’s totally NOT FAIR to make the obvious comparison. And don’t call the camps “concentration camps” because you’ll hurt someone’s feelings. Get rid of minorities? Nah, who would he have left to demonize then? Donald Trump is a political terrorist, like Al Qaida. You know how Al Qaida would always try to pull off these insanely complicated terrorist events like commandeering airplanes and flying them into skyscrapers when they could probably just as easily go into a mall and shoot it up? They chose the spectacular over the practical, because it got headlines. They got attention. Donald Trump is not much different. He’s a white nationalist Bin Laden. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34444 "2019-07-16T05:02:50Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Nancy Pelosi pointed out that when Trump says MAGA, he really means “Make America White Again”. > > Now Trump is saying that Pelosi said that herself and that she’s racist for saying it (which I guess she technically did in the context of interpreting Trump’s own tweets). > > :smack: Of course, it’s like Hillary’s “deplorables.” How dare you call my lynch mob racist!!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1721) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1723)