# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1724
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34465 "2019-07-16T16:58:01Z")
Not too sure where to put this, don’t want to bump a nearly-dead thread or something, but today, the world rejoices as the Judge in Roger Stone’s case imposed a complete [Social Media ban](https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1151172646819811328) on the asshole. OTOH, since many don’t consider the SDMB to be social media, we may get a new member soon… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34466 "2019-07-16T17:55:35Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Not too sure where to put this, don’t want to bump a nearly-dead thread or something, but today, the world rejoices as the Judge in Roger Stone’s case imposed a complete [Social Media ban](https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1151172646819811328) on the asshole. > > OTOH, since many don’t consider the SDMB to be social media, we may get a new member soon… 😉 How can that possibly be legal? ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34467 "2019-07-16T18:04:43Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > How can that possibly be legal? He repeatedly violated a court mandated gag order. If there’s no consequences for that, then gag orders have no weight. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34468 "2019-07-16T18:17:47Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > How can that possibly be legal? The initial order was that he was not to publicly comment on his case, after he posted a picture of the judge with crosshairs over the judge’s face on Instagram or something. The order has slowly been getting stricter every time Stone violates it. Actually the crosshair thing might have been after the initial order; I haven’t been paying close attention. Sooner or later he’s going to get his ass thrown in jail for the duration. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34469 "2019-07-16T18:24:59Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > He repeatedly violated a court mandated gag order. If there’s no consequences for that, then gag orders have no weight. While I don’t agree with gag orders per se, I can at least understand why he would be prevented from discussing the case. But this new one is no posting on **any** topic at all to those sites. I’d rather he be arrested for contempt of court or something similar (IANAL). ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34470 "2019-07-16T18:35:14Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > While I don’t agree with gag orders per se, I can at least understand why he would be prevented from discussing the case. > > But this new one is no posting on **any** topic at all to those sites. I’d rather he be arrested for contempt of court or something similar (IANAL). Maybe he should have thought about that before violating his gag order repeatedly. Also its not smart to piss off the judge on your case by posting a picture of his face with crosshairs. He’s lucky that isn’t being prosecuted as a threat against a judge. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34471 "2019-07-16T18:59:34Z")
This shit seriously needs to go away. Kellyanne Con[del]way[/del]man made a comment about “the Squad” (four noted female congressional reps) representing “a dark underbelly of this country.” Yeah, pretty lame and insipid, really. [Then](https://www.thedailybeast.com/kellyanne-conway-snaps-back-at-reporter-whats-your-ethnicity?source=politics&via=rss), _… a reporter … asked (her) which countries President Donald Trump was referring to when he suggested (the women) should “go back” to where they came from._ and her response to him was “_What’s your ethnicity?_” Why do we put up with this shit? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34472 "2019-07-16T19:18:56Z")
Stuff it back into the asshole it came from. Maybe with a handful of thumbtacks, for emphasis. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34473 "2019-07-16T19:27:54Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > This shit seriously needs to go away. > > Kellyanne Con[del]way[/del]man made a comment about “the Squad” (four noted female congressional reps) representing “a dark underbelly of this country.” > > Yeah, pretty lame and insipid, really. [Then](https://www.thedailybeast.com/kellyanne-conway-snaps-back-at-reporter-whats-your-ethnicity?source=politics&via=rss), > > _… a reporter … asked (her) which countries President Donald Trump was referring to when he suggested (the women) should “go back” to where they came from._ > > and her response to him was “_What’s your ethnicity?_” > > Why do we put up with this shit? Whereas her husband, George Conway, posted an opinion article where he starts off with an anecdote in which his mother, “who had come to this country from the Philippines decades before,” was told by a woman to “Go back to your country.” [George Conway: Trump is a racist president](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-conway-trump-is-a-racist-president/2019/07/15/b13c0bd4-a740-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html?utm_term=.35997ba133c1) He goes on to say: > [@George T. Conway III](#): > > …I remember the incident well, but it never bothered me all that much. Nor did racial slurs, which, thankfully, were rare. None of it was troublesome, to my mind, because most Americans weren’t like that. The woman in the parking lot was just a boor, an ignoramus, an aberration. America promised equality. Its constitution said so. My schoolbooks said so. The country wasn’t perfect, to be sure. But its ideals were. And every day brought us closer to those ideals. > > …How naive a child could be. The woman in the parking lot — there were many more like her, it turned out. They never went away. Today they attend rallies, and they post ugliness on Facebook or Twitter. As for the victims of historic racial oppression, no matter how much affirmative action (or reverse discrimination, or whatever you want to call it) the nation offered, they, too, had resentments that never went away — in part because of people like the parking-lot woman. The rest of his column goes into more detail regarding his opinion of Trump (and the Republican party leadership). > [@George T. Conway III](#): > > No matter how much I came to dislike him, I didn’t want to think that the president of the United States is a racial bigot. > > But Sunday left no doubt. Naivete, resentment and outright racism, roiled in a toxic mix, have given us a racist president. I’m mystified how a man who can write this can stay married to a person like Kellyanne Conway. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34474 "2019-07-16T20:07:35Z")
> [@robby](#): > > I’m mystified how a man who can write this can stay married to a person like Kellyanne Conway. 😕 Thinking with the wrong head. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34475 "2019-07-16T20:17:54Z")
> [@robby](#): > > I’m mystified how a man who can write this can stay married to a person like Kellyanne Conway. 😕 Especially when she’s got the face that has stopped a thousand boners. I’m surprised it took so long for Mr. C to come to that conclusion. Among those that can see, the evidence cannot be denied. For those that chose not to see, they of course will miss it. Now to support this scumbag, you either have to BE a racist piece of shit or else being a racist scumbag is not a dealbreaker for you. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34476 "2019-07-16T20:25:25Z")
> [@robby](#): > > I’m mystified how a man who can write this can stay married to a person like Kellyanne Conway. 😕 Maybe the way Michelle Bachman’s husband does it? ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34477 "2019-07-16T20:28:02Z")
> [@robby](#): > > I’m mystified how a man who can write this can stay married to a person like Kellyanne Conway. 😕 They have kids, they are both so swampy they probably see it as just her job, or leave the job outside the home, and you’ll note he had to do the republican shuffle of getting in a dig at Trump’s targets: > [@](#): > > It doesn’t matter what these representatives are for or against — and there’s plenty to criticize them for — it’s beyond the bounds of human decency. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34478 "2019-07-16T20:30:29Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Maybe the way Michelle Bachman’s husband does it? By staring into her gaping, unblinking eyes until he begins to hallucinate? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34479 "2019-07-16T20:37:26Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > By staring into her gaping, unblinking eyes until he begins to hallucinate? Isn’t that how a snake mesmerizes their prey? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34480 "2019-07-16T20:42:19Z")
Federal judge issues an injunction preventing the citizenship question from appearing on the census in any form. > **[Federal judge permanently blocks Trump admin from adding citizenship question...](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/judge-permanently-blocks-citizenship-question-2020-census/index.html)** > > A New York federal judge has issued an order definitively blocking the Trump administration from adding a citizenship question to the 2020 census in any form, despite the administration's insistence it has abandoned plans to add a question on the... ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34481 "2019-07-16T20:44:00Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > This shit seriously needs to go away. > > Kellyanne Con[del]way[/del]man made a comment about “the Squad” (four noted female congressional reps) representing “a dark underbelly of this country.” > > Yeah, pretty lame and insipid, really. [Then](https://www.thedailybeast.com/kellyanne-conway-snaps-back-at-reporter-whats-your-ethnicity?source=politics&via=rss), > > _… a reporter … asked (her) which countries President Donald Trump was referring to when he suggested (the women) should “go back” to where they came from._ > > and her response to him was “_What’s your ethnicity?_” > > Why do we put up with this shit? Too many racists, and too many people ambivalent to racism, and too many people who just don’t give a fuck. Unfortunately, it is hurting a lot of people and is dragging the USA down. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34482 "2019-07-16T20:44:39Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [Trump Foundation: 5 takeaways from the lawsuit](https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2018/06/14/trump-foundation-5-takeaways-lawsuit/702630002/) > > Billed as a campaign event, it was run under the foundation and is a significant part of the NYAG’s case against them. Thanks for this. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34483 "2019-07-16T22:59:45Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Why do we put up with this shit? IMO, the best response to “this shit” is to sweep it off the table and go into full Just Asking Questions mode on the reasons for the shit-dumping – variations on the theme “If _this_ is the _distraction_, just _ **how many** _ Epstein-brand shoes are lined up to drop on Trumpoltroon’s pointy little head?” ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34484 "2019-07-16T23:23:24Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [Trump Foundation: 5 takeaways from the lawsuit](https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2018/06/14/trump-foundation-5-takeaways-lawsuit/702630002/) > > Billed as a campaign event, it was run under the foundation and is a significant part of the NYAG’s case against them. The Fisher House Foundation? Back when I had a career I did the automation and A/V for it. It was still a residence back then but everything I did would transition well into a museum. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1723) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1725)