# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1731
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34605 "2019-07-18T21:20:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Would anyone here blame a Jew who forged documents to escape Nazi Germany? However she _got_ here, she’s doing a heck of a job _being_ here. [https://www.thenation.com/article/in-the-valley-of-death-somalilands-forgotten-genocide/](https://www.thenation.com/article/in-the-valley-of-death-somalilands-forgotten-genocide/) Her family was part of the Barre government. What job has the job title, “Teacher of teachers”? If you’re an actual professor in teaching, you would say, “Professor of teaching at Mogadishu University” not “teacher of teachers”. Where did he teach teachers? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34606 "2019-07-18T21:24:59Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > That I was ! You can put a notch on your crystal ball 🙂 I’m not an expert on the science of optics, but my intuition is that a notch in a crystal ball isn’t going to to ANYTHING to improve the clarity of the outcome one perceives. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34607 "2019-07-18T21:30:17Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > At least with llamas, the wool is _outside_ the head. > > And why aren’t the lamestream media reporting how he fed the 450,000 attendees with five loaves and two fishes? And isn’t it a little _convenient_ that the support staff just _happened_ to have 144 baskets on hand to collect the leftovers in? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34608 "2019-07-18T21:48:05Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > …What job has the job title, “Teacher of teachers”? > > If you’re an actual professor in teaching, you would say, “Professor of teaching at Mogadishu University” not “teacher of teachers”. Where did he teach teachers? I am always pleased when I can answer a question promptly, without hesitation or doubt. I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34609 "2019-07-18T21:53:10Z")
He also learned some decent Somali, I might note: > **[Further Investigation Suggests Omar Married Brother](https://alphanews.org/investigation-suggests-omar-married-brother/)** > > Further investigation into social media accounts, news reports, and legal documents support the allegation MN State House of Representatives Candidate Ilhan Omar married her brother, who is not a US citizen, in 2009. As Alpha News reported last week,... ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34610 "2019-07-18T22:26:07Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I’m not right wing. I support the idea: Then you are unbelievably stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34611 "2019-07-18T23:00:34Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Then you are unbelievably stupid. ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ I recommend caution - nothing more and nothing less. Up to you all. It’s your necks. My party is too small for it to matter if we misstep. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34612 "2019-07-19T00:31:26Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > [https://www.thenation.com/article/in-the-valley-of-death-somalilands-forgotten-genocide/](https://www.thenation.com/article/in-the-valley-of-death-somalilands-forgotten-genocide/) > > Her family was part of the Barre government. > > What job has the job title, “Teacher of teachers”? > > If you’re an actual professor in teaching, you would say, “Professor of teaching at Mogadishu University” not “teacher of teachers”. Where did he teach teachers? Do you think “teacher of teachers” is a more or less real job title than “master of fortune”? ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34613 "2019-07-19T00:37:57Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > He also learned some decent Somali, I might note: > > [Further Investigation Suggests Omar Married Brother - Alpha News](https://alphanewsmn.com/investigation-suggests-omar-married-brother/) Have anything other than a three year old post from a GOP communications specialist? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34614 "2019-07-19T00:39:39Z")
July 18, 2019 Border control agents held US citizen children at Chicago’s O’Hare airport, refusing to release them till their undocumented parents came to get them. [Feds At O’Hare Release Children Of Undocumented Parents | WBEZ Chicago](https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-news/ohare-standoff-border-patrol-detaining-three-children-of-undocumented-parents/285e32de-2516-4be2-b660-fd7b0419e913)? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34615 "2019-07-19T01:43:46Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > If you haven’t looked at it because of the source, you’re setting yourself up for failure. Life is too short to look at every bit of nonsensical “proof” that JFK was shot from a UFO parked on the grassy knoll. > [@](#): > > It could certainly be manufactured and those guys are going to be sued for every last penny at any moment. Personally, I’m hoping for something more like [Buzz Aldrin’s approach](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_Sibrel). ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34616 "2019-07-19T02:41:13Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ > > I recommend caution - nothing more and nothing less. Up to you all. It’s your necks. My party is too small for it to matter if we misstep. Actually, you do not recommend caution. A cautious view would be one that accepts two facts: 1-Omar’s brother is already, by virtue of being her brother, an immediate family member and therefore faking up a marriage to have him become an immediate family members does not do anything, and 2-anyone pushing this lame and absolutely bigoted conspiracy theory needs to have some damned good proof to be taken seriously. You’re pushing it, your protestations notwithstanding. Actually, you’re JAQing off to it. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34617 "2019-07-19T03:09:21Z")
The Individual 1 campaign is literally selling plastic straws to stick it to the liberals. > ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34618 "2019-07-19T03:18:16Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Individual 1 campaign is literally selling plastic straws to stick it to the liberals. > [https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1152036339283443712](https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1152036339283443712) $15 for 10 straws? They must be making a fortune off of Trump followers. And why are they accusing paper straws of being “liberal”? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34619 "2019-07-19T03:31:41Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > $15 for 10 straws? They must be making a fortune off of Trump followers. > > And why are they accusing paper straws of being “liberal”? Because they are more [environmentally friendly](https://squareup.com/townsquare/why-plastic-straws-are-being-banned). And since liberals want to protect the environment it is the patriotic duty of every red blooded American do do what he can to destroy it. If seals don’t choke on plastic than the socialists win. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34620 "2019-07-19T03:35:52Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > $15 for 10 straws? They must be making a fortune off of Trump followers. > > And why are they accusing paper straws of being “liberal”? Some environmentalists are pushing for plastic straws to be banned or phased out because they end up floating in the ocean. I think some jurisdictions have banned them. Anyway one alternative is paper straws. So, some environmentalists oppose plastic straws, therefore plastic straws are **fucking awesome** and paper straws are for soyboys. I think that’s the extent of their thinking, such as it is. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34621 "2019-07-19T03:37:20Z")
The Cohen info dump shows that Hope Hicks may have lied to the House committee. > **[House Democrats demand Hope Hicks clarify testimony after Cohen document dump](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/18/hicks-testimony-gets-second-look-after-cohen-document-dump-1422149)** > > New information raises questions about whether former White House communications director misled House lawmakers during a closed-door interview last month. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34622 "2019-07-19T03:41:14Z")
Can we get them to replace some coal plants with nuclear to ‘stick it to the liberals’? B cause that would be awesome (though on the other hand … can we trust the safety standards of a nuclear plant funded by trumpistas? Maybe if it gets built within 5k of Mar a Lago) ETA: IRT the straw thing, obviously ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34623 "2019-07-19T03:49:14Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Cohen info dump shows that Hope Hicks may have lied to the House committee. > [https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/18/hicks-testimony-gets-second-look-after-cohen-document-dump-1422149](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/18/hicks-testimony-gets-second-look-after-cohen-document-dump-1422149) She might end up in jail. From the article: > [@](#): > > “Looks like Hope Hicks lied during Congressional investigation when we at @HouseJudiciary interviewed her,” tweeted Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.), who sits on the judiciary panel. “That’s two felonies: Perjury & Obstruction of Justice. Hicks consulted with lawyers throughout her interview. Did @TheJusticeDept or @WhiteHouse lawyers know she was lying?” > > Added Bradley Moss, a Washington-based national security attorney, “I’m going to be surprised if there isn’t a 1001 violation referral for Hope Hicks by the end of tomorrow. It appears rather clear she lied to Congress about the Stormy Daniels saga.” He was referring to the federal statute prohibiting material false statements. Ted Lieu’s “Did @TheJusticeDept or @WhiteHouse lawyers know she was lying?” question is a thread that needs pulling. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34624 "2019-07-19T03:58:09Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Because they are more [environmentally friendly](https://squareup.com/townsquare/why-plastic-straws-are-being-banned). And since liberals want to protect the environment it is the patriotic duty of every red blooded American do do what he can to destroy it. If seals don’t choke on plastic than the socialists win. Bite the ends off a piece of licorice and use that. If drinking straws are a political statement, I guess that puts me in the Silly Party. I used to do that even before plastic straws were a known menace to society. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1730) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1732)