# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34745 "2019-07-23T06:47:08Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Of course, Chump’s base will know you can’t trust anything those lying Indians say.

We’re talking about Trump supporters. So we can assume a large portion of them are thinking you can’t trust anything those lying Africans say.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34746 "2019-07-23T07:52:22Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I’ve never flown internationally before so I don’t know. Do passengers hit customs before or after baggage claim?

The usual procedure is “pass ID check, pick up baggage, pass customs check”; some locations where large luggage is rare have the ID check and customs check in a single spot after picking up baggage and boy do they glare at you if you have too many bags. Depending on the location, either or both of the check zones can have two lane-streams: one for “citizens or equivalent” and one for “foreigner for real” in ID, one for “traveling within country/customs zone” one for “traveling from outside for real” in customs.

Now you’re all informed and don’t need to guess any more 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34747 "2019-07-23T11:40:23Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> He’s become more incoherent and bizarre in the year since he made the comments in that article:
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> [https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1153364423479898114](https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1153364423479898114)
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> It’s 25th-Amendment stuff.

We’ll add it to the list.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34748 "2019-07-23T12:26:24Z")

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The New York Times ran an [article](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/22/us/politics/trump-michigan-racism-2020.html) on Michigan residents who support Trump even after the “send them back” comment. One said, “They happen to be black or colored. But I don’t think that viewpoint is a racist viewpoint. I think it’s — quit the bitching, if you don’t like it, do something different about it.” You mean, like participating in the political process? Does serving in the US Congress not count?

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34749 "2019-07-23T12:31:28Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [“We did a fantastic job in Puerto Rico”](https://www.wktv.com/content/national/492021721.html) is back in the news.

That article is from August of last year.

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**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34750 "2019-07-23T13:45:26Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> The usual procedure is “pass ID check, pick up baggage, pass customs check”; some locations where large luggage is rare have the ID check and customs check in a single spot after picking up baggage and boy do they glare at you if you have too many bags. Depending on the location, either or both of the check zones can have two lane-streams: one for “citizens or equivalent” and one for “foreigner for real” in ID, one for “traveling within country/customs zone” one for “traveling from outside for real” in customs.
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> Now you’re all informed and don’t need to guess any more 🙂

Specifically, at O’Hare, you exit the plane, go through passport control (where there are separate lanes for US Citizens, US citizens with Global Entry, foreign nationals, and I believe one line for diplomats and crew), pick up your checked luggage, and often just walk right out the door. There are CBP officers at the exit from baggage claim who may ask to look at your docs, question you, or might ask to examine your luggage, but I can’t remember the last time any of them showed even the slightest interest in my luggage.

Of course, I’m a grey-haired, blue-eyed, white, middle-aged man. Your mileage may definitely vary.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34751 "2019-07-23T17:14:00Z")

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Imagine for one moment Obama uttering [the following sentence](https://boingboing.net/2019/07/23/whatever-i-want-as-president.html), and how much outrage from the GOP there would be:

“Then I have an Article 2, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president, but I don’t even talk about that.”

And then realize that Trump actually said that this morning.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34752 "2019-07-23T17:22:00Z")

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He’s been saying that for over a week now: [Trump Rants About 'Article II' Giving Him Unlimited Power](https://splinternews.com/heres-trump-screaming-in-front-of-a-plane-about-how-he-1836314919)

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34753 "2019-07-23T18:19:20Z")

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[https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wireStory/usda-rule-affect-31m-food-stamp-recipients-64508284](https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wireStory/usda-rule-affect-31m-food-stamp-recipients-64508284)

Let’s throw 3.1 million people off of food stamp programs because…because it’s Tuesday and more people need to suffer.

ETA: Yes, I know that 3.1 million people probably won’t lose their benefits, but if even half or even a quarter do, that’s still a lot.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34754 "2019-07-23T18:48:53Z")

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“Fuck those people; Richie Rich needs another tax cut.”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34755 "2019-07-23T19:05:16Z")

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Ivanka: “Congratulations Boris Johnson on becoming the next Prime Minster of the United _ **Kingston** _”.

> **[‘United Kingston’ trends after Ivanka Trump misspells ‘United Kingdom’ in...](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/454261-united-kingston-trends-after-ivanka-trump-misspells-united/)**
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> The “United Kingston” trended Tuesday morning after a tweet from White House adviser Ivanka Trump’s account misspelled “United Kingdom.”The misspelling occurred in a tweet congratulating Bori…

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34756 "2019-07-23T19:17:38Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> “Then I have an Article 2, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president, but I don’t even talk about that.”

Article 2 says, ‘The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.’ Trump and Barr seem to think that since the president _is_ the Executive branch, then the president has all of the power.

Except ‘Power’ means that the president has the authority to execute laws passed by the Legislative Branch. It doesn’t mean he can make stuff up.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34757 "2019-07-23T20:28:59Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Ivanka: “Congratulations Boris Johnson on becoming the next Prime Minster of the United _ **Kingston** _”.  
> [https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/454261-united-kingston-trends-after-ivanka-trump-misspells-united](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/454261-united-kingston-trends-after-ivanka-trump-misspells-united)

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34758 "2019-07-23T20:30:49Z")

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Well, there’s England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland. That makes the Kingston Trio, right?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34759 "2019-07-23T23:34:44Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Ivanka: “Congratulations Boris Johnson on becoming the next Prime Minster of the United _ **Kingston** _”.  
> [https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/454261-united-kingston-trends-after-ivanka-trump-misspells-united](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/454261-united-kingston-trends-after-ivanka-trump-misspells-united)

He should [go back where he came from](https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Uxbridge,+UK/51.4129921,-0.3007318/@51.4778219,-0.5489731,11z/) (which in his case is only about 27 miles).

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34760 "2019-07-23T23:51:15Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Ivanka: “Congratulations Boris Johnson on becoming the next Prime Minster of the United _ **Kingston** _”.  
> [https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/454261-united-kingston-trends-after-ivanka-trump-misspells-united](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/454261-united-kingston-trends-after-ivanka-trump-misspells-united)

At least she didn’t say United Poughkeepsie.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34761 "2019-07-24T00:21:41Z")

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Christ, Boris Johnson’s not even dog whistling racism; he’s got an entire sound system replete with amplifiers and screaming into the microphone.

> **['Watermelon smiles' and 'piccaninnies': What Boris Johnson has said...](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/23/africa/boris-johnson-africa-intl/index.html)**
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> Boris Johnson has emerged as the new Prime Minister of the UK after a leadership contest and could prove to be as divisive a figure in Britain as President Trump is in the United States.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34762 "2019-07-24T00:25:47Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> At least she didn’t say United Poughkeepsie.

Vassar rejected her college application. She’s never heard of it.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34763 "2019-07-24T00:31:49Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Article 2 says, ‘The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.’ Trump and Barr seem to think that since the president _is_ the Executive branch, then the president has all of the power.
> 
> Except ‘Power’ means that the president has the authority to execute laws passed by the Legislative Branch. It doesn’t mean he can make stuff up.

Perhaps Trump hasn’t read all the way to Section 4 of Article 2. “The President, Vice President and all Civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

It makes no sense that the Constitution would say the President can do whatever he wants, and then specify a mechanism for removing him from office.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34764 "2019-07-24T00:42:17Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I’ve never flown internationally before so I don’t know. Do passengers hit customs before or after baggage claim?
> 
> Also, of COURSE I’m guessing. I’ve never worked for an airline.

I’m only familiar with Dulles in Virginia. But coming off the plane, there is a CBP checkpoint where they scan your passport and ask questions and whatever. This is before you get your bags. But they decide, right then, whether or not your bags get extra scrutiny (before you get your bags). They would make some mark on the customs form that told the additional CBP personnel whether or not to check your bags.

Now that I have Global Entry, I don’t have to deal with standing there and watching a CBP official go through every single photo I have on my camera. In any event, the only airline personnel around are the flight crew who are going through the Global Entry/Flight Crew line and getting out of there.

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