# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34805 "2019-07-25T20:52:01Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> They’re coming fast and furious now.
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> AG Barr has reinstated the Federal Death Penalty. Mitch McConnell blocks election security bills.
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> And Putin sits in a room somewhere, rubbing his hands together in glee. And we have a traitor as president.

Holy goddam fuck, I hate these people with a passion!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34806 "2019-07-25T21:50:40Z")

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07.25.19  
Rudy Giuliani’s wife is in divorce court, accusing him of doing pro bono work for Individual 1, and even paying his own expenses to travel to Washington, to make it look like his income is less than it really is, to short change her on their estate split.

> **[Rudy Giuliani, Estranged Wife Argue in Court Over His Free Trump Legal Work](https://www.thedailybeast.com/rudy-giuliani-estranged-wife-argue-in-court-over-his-free-trump-legal-work/)**
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> The ex-mayor and Judith Nathan Giuliani appeared in a Manhattan court on Thursday as their divorce gets increasingly acrimonious.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34807 "2019-07-25T21:56:15Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> AG Barr has reinstated the Federal Death Penalty.

What’s wrong with that? The sooner the murderers are executed, the sooner their victims come back to life, right? Right?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34808 "2019-07-25T22:01:59Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> AG Barr has reinstated the Federal Death Penalty.

Proving that even a clusterfuck can do something right once in a blue moon.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34809 "2019-07-25T22:13:11Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Proving that even a clusterfuck can do something right once in a blue moon.

How?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34810 "2019-07-25T22:17:16Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> How?

Having a death penalty is a _good_ thing.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34811 "2019-07-25T22:35:58Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Having a death penalty is a _good_ thing.

[DNA Exonerations in the United States](https://www.innocenceproject.org/dna-exonerations-in-the-united-states/)

Once you can guarantee that no innocent person is executed, I’m on board.

Remember, the Howling Yam was calling for the [execution of the Central Park Five](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/18/18684217/trump-central-park-5-netflix) even _after_ they were cleared by DNA and the real killer caught.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34812 "2019-07-25T22:39:08Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> 07.25.19  
> Rudy Giuliani’s wife is in divorce court, accusing him of doing pro bono work for Individual 1, and even paying his own expenses to travel to Washington, to make it look like his income is less than it really is, to short change her on their estate split.  
> [Rudy Giuliani, Estranged Wife Argue in Court Over His Free Trump Legal Work](https://www.thedailybeast.com/rudy-giuliani-estranged-wife-argue-in-court-over-his-free-trump-legal-work/)

This is a dangerous road for Rudy to travel.

If he publicly proclaims that he’s broke, where does he think the NEXT 50-years-younger girlfriend is going to come from? Some alternate universe where he’s considered either attractive, charming, or sane?

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34813 "2019-07-25T23:08:37Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [DNA Exonerations in the United States](https://www.innocenceproject.org/dna-exonerations-in-the-united-states/)
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> Once you can guarantee that no innocent person is executed, I’m on board.
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> Remember, the Howling Yam was calling for the [execution of the Central Park Five](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/18/18684217/trump-central-park-5-netflix) even _after_ they were cleared by DNA and the real killer caught.

Correction: The victim survived. It wasn’t even a capital crime.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34814 "2019-07-25T23:13:51Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> Correction: The victim survived. It wasn’t even a capital crime.

:smack::smack::smack::smack:

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34815 "2019-07-25T23:15:26Z")

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Nm

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34816 "2019-07-25T23:25:59Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Having a death penalty is a _good_ thing.

Fuck you.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34817 "2019-07-25T23:30:42Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I’m guessing some part-time AV employee is probably howling his ass off with laughter over a bag of weed or a case of PBR in his parent’s basement right now. Seems like it’s the kind of shit college kids would do.

I’d buy those kids another case of PBR.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34818 "2019-07-25T23:50:06Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> This is a dangerous road for Rudy to travel.
> 
> If he publicly proclaims that he’s broke, where does he think the NEXT 50-years-younger girlfriend is going to come from? Some alternate universe where he’s considered either attractive, charming, or sane?

Maybe Rudy could work pro bono for Jeffrey Epstein and get some leads.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34819 "2019-07-26T00:03:31Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Maybe Rudy could work pro bono for Jeffrey Epstein and get some leads.

Well done.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34820 "2019-07-26T00:20:07Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Fuck you.

Some people deserve to die. But fuck the death penalty.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34821 "2019-07-26T00:24:44Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Once you can guarantee that no innocent person is executed, I’m on board.

That’s how I feel, but must also add that it must be administered equitably. Rich and/or white should be in the same line as poor and ethnic for the same crime.

When it’s perfect - no erroneous executions and equally distributed for the same crimes - I can support the death penalty. Won’t happen in my lifetime.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34822 "2019-07-26T00:35:33Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> That’s how I feel, but must also add that it must be administered equitably. Rich and/or white should be in the same line as poor and ethnic for the same crime.
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> When it’s perfect - no erroneous executions and equally distributed for the same crimes - I can support the death penalty. Won’t happen in my lifetime.

“The law, in its infinite wisdom, electrocutes rich and poor alike for sleeping under bridges, begging in the streets, and stealing bread.”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34823 "2019-07-26T00:51:11Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Having a death penalty is a _good_ thing.

Please provide just one unambiguous positive. One. For, I can find absolutely no benefit to capital punishment. In any situation.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34824 "2019-07-26T02:02:41Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> “The law, in its infinite wisdom, electrocutes rich and poor alike for sleeping under bridges, begging in the streets, and stealing bread.”

I would love to live to see that day that becomes true.

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