# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1744
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34865 "2019-07-26T18:39:17Z")
I 'unno. Human decency? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34866 "2019-07-26T18:56:22Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > 07/26/2019 > Trump goes ballistic after a Fox News poll shows him trailing Biden. “So different from what they used to be during the 2016 Primaries, & before - Proud Warriors!” > [https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/07/26/trump-fox-news-biden-poll-1437265](https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/07/26/trump-fox-news-biden-poll-1437265) So the problem isn’t with Trump; it’s not even with the poll. It’s with Fox News, for their reporting of the poll. We’re truly through the looking glass. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34867 "2019-07-26T19:34:40Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > We’re truly through the looking glass. Wasn’t that always the case with Trump? Hasn’t “perception is reality” been his business and personal policy since the early 1980s at least? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34868 "2019-07-26T19:49:26Z")
For all the time Fox News lies and distorts to please him, he’s angry they’re not lying about the poll results to present the image that he’s the most popular president of all time and would easily beat anyone in the next election. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34869 "2019-07-26T21:12:23Z")
Trump is angry at Obama for screwing up the White House air conditioning: > [@](#): > > Trump, speaking to reporters in the Oval Office, blames Obama for – of all things – messing up the White House air conditioning system. Says, thanks to Obama, "it’s freezing or hot in here. " > ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34870 "2019-07-26T21:27:37Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Trump is angry at Obama for screwing up the White House air conditioning: > [https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1154857324160397312?s=19](https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1154857324160397312?s=19) Well, since Obama’s a Kenyan, the temperature settings are probably Celsius. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34871 "2019-07-26T21:32:51Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I 'unno. Human decency? The system shows little to none; why show the system any decency? ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34872 "2019-07-26T21:48:39Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > The system shows little to none; why show the system any decency? Er, I think the point was that if the goal is just to kick the side of the box to make it start working, you don’t have to choose a racist pussy-grabber to do your kicking for you, unless of course you think that racist pussy-grabbing is super-cool. (And that’s just superficial decency; to me there are decency issues with putting the highest seat in the land in the hands of a senile incompetent. Or a republican.) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34873 "2019-07-26T21:51:28Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Trump is angry at Obama for screwing up the White House air conditioning: > [https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1154857324160397312?s=19](https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1154857324160397312?s=19) Well, yeah, Donnie. Of course it’s too hot. Obama misses that Kenya weather. And when it’s too cold? That was because Obama misses that Mount Kilimanjaro weather next door. You absolutely bigoted worthless piece of crap. \ **Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34874 "2019-07-26T22:02:38Z") He’s having hot and cold flashes? Time to call in the doctor. Maybe one that recommends he rests his old bones. Preferably somewhere quiet and out of the way. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34875 "2019-07-26T22:27:27Z")
Individual 1 wants to investigate Obama. > ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34876 "2019-07-26T22:31:10Z")
Individual 1’s pick for Treasury spokesperson repeated that Obama was a Muslim and a terrorist sympathizer. > **[Trump’s Treasury Pick Claimed Obama Was a Terrorist-Loving Muslim](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/monica-crowley-barack-obama)** > > Monica Crowley was also a big fan of the Trump-fueled conspiracy theory that Obama wasn’t born in the United States. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34877 "2019-07-26T23:03:17Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Wasn’t that always the case with Trump? Hasn’t “perception is reality” been his business and personal policy since the early 1980s at least? Oh, definitely. His response is ridiculous but not surprising. If he had any political authority in other times & other places, I’m sure he would _literally_ shoot the messenger whenever he got any bad news. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34878 "2019-07-26T23:57:34Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > The system shows little to none; why show the system any decency? I think by definition, I have to fall back on “human decency” again. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34879 "2019-07-27T00:53:32Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > Er, I think the point was that if the goal is just to kick the side of the box to make it start working, you don’t have to choose a racist pussy-grabber to do your kicking for you, unless of course you think that racist pussy-grabbing is super-cool. For the people I’m talking about; that is an unfortunate thing, but not at all germaine to their goals. And their goals have nothing to do with kicking the system to work better. By the time people are saying “fuck this” they aren’t interested in that system any longer. People who voted for Trump do not want this system to continue. At all. They are done with it, because it has shown itself (they believe) to not work at all. So fuck it: vote for Trump. You don’t throw a monkey wrench in the gears to make it work better, or indeed to work at all. > [@begbert2](#): > > (And that’s just superficial decency; to me there are decency issues with putting the highest seat in the land in the hands of a senile incompetent. Or a republican.) There is little decent about a system that allows the wealthy to steal from the poor and from the future like happened with the last round of tax cuts. Health care. Immigration. Police brutality. Decades of stagnant wages. Wealth accumulation. The repeal or ignoring of anti-trust regulations and why they existed. There are a whole shitload of reasons that people feel the way they do, and especially when taken as a whole fabric rather than tiny threads, a lot of them are absolutely done with the current system. It doesn’t work. They don’t want to fix it; they want to build a new system. ETA: And that isn’t even pointing out all the ways that the super-wealthy are done with this system. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34880 "2019-07-27T01:50:47Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Trump is angry at Obama for screwing up the White House air conditioning: > [https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1154857324160397312?s=19](https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1154857324160397312?s=19) Until this very moment I had never known that Obama was an A/C tech. Truly a Renaissance Man. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34881 "2019-07-27T02:11:20Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Until this very moment I had never known that Obama was an A/C tech. Truly a Renaissance Man. Little known fact: while getting his JD, Obama picked up a degree in Mechanical Engineering. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34882 "2019-07-27T02:28:23Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Wiki.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution#United_States) > > I’ll bet you’ll say three is an acceptable error rate. If those three were innocent, and I’m not convinced of that, then that would mean that we need to do a better job of providing adequate counsel and evidentiary standards of guilt, not that we should never ever execute anyone ever again even if they shot a man on 5th Avenue in broad daylight. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34883 "2019-07-27T02:41:31Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Trump is angry at Obama for screwing up the White House air conditioning: > > > [@](#): > > > > Trump, speaking to reporters in the Oval Office, blames Obama for – of all things – messing up the White House air conditioning system. Says, thanks to Obama, "it’s freezing or hot in here. " > > [https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1154857324160397312?s=19](https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1154857324160397312?s=19) Yet another example of Trump’s failing mind [shown in this October 2017 report](https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a10366986/trump-white-house-renovation-details/)… > [@](#): > > The White House’s extensive renovation took place while Trump spent 17 days at his Bedminster golf club in August and was conducted by a team of more than 200 workers. **Updates included replacing the 27-year-old heating and cooling system** , refreshing the paint and carpets throughout offices, and meeting rooms and hanging Trump-approved wallpaper in the Oval Office. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34884 "2019-07-27T03:57:47Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Yet another example of Trump’s failing mind [shown in this October 2017 report](https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a10366986/trump-white-house-renovation-details/)… Yet, it goes beyond him. Remember the old lighting fiasco of '17, when it took months for his team to figure out how to turn on the lights in the West Wing office complex? The aggregate intellect of the people around him seems to work out to slightly less than two horny banana slugs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1743) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1745)