# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1746
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34905 "2019-07-27T17:41:40Z")
Median household income of Elijah Cumming’s MD-07 district: $58,128. Median household income of Jim Jordan’s OH-04 district: $54,480. Mean household income of MD-07: $85,534. Mean household income of OH-04: $62,835 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34906 "2019-07-27T17:44:26Z")
I would think that a happy median, or at least modestly content. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34907 "2019-07-27T17:46:51Z")
> [@Lurking\_Quahog](#): > > I have this wonderful image of Obama using a Nest thermostat app on his phone to constantly turn the heat up and down in the White House to mess with Individual 1. I love this 😃 Remember when Clinton staff were alleged to have done all kinds of vandalism on the way out of the White House in 2001? I recall claims that they’d pulled the Ws from computer keyboards and IIRC, more serious damage. I think they were also alleged to have left lots of porn on the computers. Man, you just can’t trust those Democrats in the White House. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34908 "2019-07-27T18:29:33Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > I love this 😃 > > Remember when Clinton staff were alleged to have done all kinds of vandalism on the way out of the White House in 2001? I recall claims that they’d pulled the Ws from computer keyboards and IIRC, more serious damage. I think they were also alleged to have left lots of porn on the computers. Man, you just can’t trust those Democrats in the White House. T O S S• T R U M P in Two - K - Twenty Just so we can see what vandalism he’ll leave for the Castro Administration! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34909 "2019-07-27T21:24:08Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > She’d have to rely on the protection of OTHER COUNTRIES for her personal safety? What happens to Joe Schmoe, who doesn’t have the resources to GET to another country, and happens to point out that 45 is an America-hating fuckstick to, say, Stephen Miller? Nothing, because hurting Loser Donald’s feelings isn’t and never will be a capital offense. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34910 "2019-07-27T22:27:13Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Nothing, because hurting Loser Donald’s feelings isn’t and never will be a capital offense. At least until he unleashes The Infantroopen. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34911 "2019-07-27T22:56:35Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > “Trump Does Not Care for Those Negroes, Part CDLXXIV” > > [Trump Attacks Elijah Cummings As 'Brutal Bully' From 'Rodent Infested' District | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-elijah-cummings-brutal-bully-rodent-infested-district_n_5d3c4ec1e4b0c31569eb6234) > > Today’s candidate: Elijah Cummings! Obviously, Trump is racist. But between racism or the fact that Cummings is one of the people investigating him for criminal and corrupt activity, I would vote that the main portion of animosity comes from the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34912 "2019-07-27T23:23:26Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Obviously, Trump is racist. But between racism or the fact that Cummings is one of the people investigating him for criminal and corrupt activity, I would vote that the main portion of animosity comes from the latter. Yes, but the specific insult (your district is a festering shit-hole) is racist. Trump is probably thinking that only a crime-ridden, welfare-dependent ghetto would elect a black congressman. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34913 "2019-07-28T00:28:46Z")
Is Trump appointing ANYONE now who’s not accused of sexual abuse? I mean, what are the odds? > **[Trump's Nominee for Joint Chiefs of Staff Post Accused of Sexual Assault](https://jezebel.com/trumps-nominee-for-top-military-post-accused-of-sexual-1836759621)** > > Army Colonel Kathryn A. Spletstoser has accused Air Force General John E. Hyten—Trump’s nominee for vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff—of sexual assault. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34914 "2019-07-28T00:56:58Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Is Trump appointing ANYONE now who’s not accused of sexual abuse? I mean, what are the odds? > > [https://theslot.jezebel.com/trumps-nominee-for-top-military-post-accused-of-sexual-1836759621](https://theslot.jezebel.com/trumps-nominee-for-top-military-post-accused-of-sexual-1836759621) Only the best people! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34915 "2019-07-28T01:22:42Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Obviously, Trump is racist. But between racism or the fact that Cummings is one of the people investigating him for criminal and corrupt activity, I would vote that the main portion of animosity comes from the latter. So you feel it should have less impact or consideration because it’s not _primarily_ racist? ETA: I mean, exactly what point are you trying to make by pointing out this, your belief? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34916 "2019-07-28T01:28:35Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Obviously, Trump is racist. But between racism or the fact that Cummings is one of the people investigating him for criminal and corrupt activity, I would vote that the main portion of animosity comes from the latter. Trump has used the word "infested’ (or variants) on Twitter _only_ in referencing African American communities, or other groups dominated by people of color, like immigrants. The trigger very well may be the one. But the expression is definitely the other, and that is how he chose to express his frustration. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34917 "2019-07-28T01:35:16Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Obviously, Trump is racist. But between racism or the fact that Cummings is one of the people investigating him for criminal and corrupt activity, I would vote that the main portion of animosity comes from the latter. The Baltimore Sun isn’t confused: > **[Better to have a few rats than to be one](https://www.baltimoresun.com/2019/07/27/better-to-have-a-few-rats-than-to-be-one/)** > > In case anyone missed it, the president of the United States had some choice words to describe Maryland’s 7th congressional district on Saturday morning. Here are the key phrases: “no h… > [@](#): > > It’s not hard to see what’s going on here. The congressman has been a thorn in this president’s side, and Mr. Trump sees attacking African American members of Congress as good politics, as it both warms the cockles of the white supremacists who love him and causes so many of the thoughtful people who don’t to scream. President Trump bad-mouthed Baltimore in order to make a point that the border camps are “clean, efficient & well run," which, of course, they are not — unless you are fine with all the overcrowding, squalor, cages and deprivation to be found in what the Department of Homeland Security’s own inspector-general recently called “a ticking time bomb." > > … > > No, he was returning to an old standby of attacking an African American lawmaker from a majority black district on the most emotional and bigoted of arguments. It was only surprising that there wasn’t room for a few classic phrases like “you people” or “welfare queens” or “crime-ridden ghettos” or a suggestion that the congressman “go back” to where he came from. > > … > > the fact that “Fox & Friends” had recently aired a segment critical of the city, slamming Baltimore must have been irresistible in a Pavlovian way. Fox News rang the bell, the president salivated and his thumbs moved across his cell phone into action. No doubt about it. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34918 "2019-07-28T01:53:07Z")
They claim that California is a wasteland of high taxes and crime and no one wants to live there. Ignoring that nearly 40 million people live there and, on its own, it would be the fifth largest economy in the world, edging out _ **fucking India** _, a nation of 1.2 billion people. They scream about the homelessness in the Blue States, ignoring the fact that it is the hostility of their laws, law enforcement and refusal to care for people that drives people without homes to states that aren’t complete fucking douchebags to the poor. They claim they’re self-sufficient and take care of themselves, while their states rely on money from the Federal Government to survive (and it is paid for by those _horridly unlivable_ blue states, which pay more in taxes than they receive back from the Feds). They scream about crime and criminals, while having the highest rates of incarceration in the entire world. They tell people to “get a job” when there are no jobs available and/or the jobs that are available won’t pay anyone’s rent. They cry about how the minimum wage will bankrupt companies and put people out of business while not caring that people can’t live on those wages. Then they claim that _ **no one** _ lives on those wages except kids going to school, ignoring the fact that the vast majority of people working those jobs are adults trying to make it in this world. They support and watch media that is shown to be over 60% outright lies and misinformation, but they think we on the left are insane and out of touch. (Of course we appear that way to people with such a deliberately distorted view of reality.) They’re racist fucks who get upset if you dare to tell them that they’re racist fucks. They threaten violence against liberals and democrats regularly, yet they claim that we’re the violent ones. (For the record: In 2018 alone, 50 people were killed by right wing extremists. ZERO killed by left wing extremists.) They lay claim to the term Deplorable, meant to signify horrible racist assholes, then get insulted that you call them Deplorables or “horrible racist assholes”. Hey, if you’re going to claim a term like that and declare your pride in being a horrible racist asshole, then why are you whining when we call you what YOU YOURSELF accepted and called yourself?) They’re the biggest, most entitled, whiny little fucks on the planet. Yet they think they’re the most intelligent, naturally best people in the world. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34919 "2019-07-28T02:06:05Z")
Trump and his campaign are deliberately polarizing the electorate because they want to incite reactions, and they want these reactions on the left to make blue collar and centrist Whites feel either alienated and/or threatened. Beyond that, there is a long, long, long - like way long - history in this country of plutocrats using ethnic tension to drive wedges between minorities and working class whites, with violence usually being the end result. People who believe that because we elected Obama that we somehow moved into a post-racial America in which we can’t have these kinds of mass racial tensions are dangerously naive and wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34920 "2019-07-28T02:09:37Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Yes, but the specific insult (your district is a festering shit-hole) is racist. Trump is probably thinking that only a crime-ridden, welfare-dependent ghetto would elect a black congressman. Fair. I understand the racism angle, then. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34921 "2019-07-28T02:15:00Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > So you feel it should have less impact or consideration because it’s not _primarily_ racist? > > ETA: I mean, exactly what point are you trying to make by pointing out this, your belief? 😕 I was probably wrong but I pointed it out because this is a forum for truth. If you were to accuse Charles Manson of murdering JFK, I’d defend him against the accusation for the simple reason that it’s a false accusation. It’s not any indication of love for Manson. Again, I was probably wrong. As said, I’m simply explaining why I commented; the accusation seemed to be wrong for the particular instance. Based on the information provided, I see that I was missing some details in the specific word choice. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34922 "2019-07-28T02:28:43Z")
Despite Trump redecorating the White House dining room, it is still such a republican rat infested mess that many good people decline to eat there. So what does the big racist rat do? He calls neighbouring Baltimore a rat infested mess. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34923 "2019-07-28T03:29:37Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Is Trump appointing ANYONE now who’s not accused of sexual abuse? I mean, what are the odds? > > [https://theslot.jezebel.com/trumps-nominee-for-top-military-post-accused-of-sexual-1836759621](https://theslot.jezebel.com/trumps-nominee-for-top-military-post-accused-of-sexual-1836759621) Well, there’s the spokeswoman for Treasury who contended that Obama was a Muslim and couldn’t be loyal to the United States if he was loyal to Islam. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34924 "2019-07-28T03:42:42Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > They claim that California is a wasteland of high taxes and crime and no one wants to live there… Nice rant. Sharing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1745) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1747)