# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1747
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34925 "2019-07-28T03:46:31Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Is Trump appointing ANYONE now who’s not accused of sexual abuse? I mean, what are the odds? > > [https://theslot.jezebel.com/trumps-nominee-for-top-military-post-accused-of-sexual-1836759621](https://theslot.jezebel.com/trumps-nominee-for-top-military-post-accused-of-sexual-1836759621) So far as I have been able to determine, about half of the people who Trump worked with on his various building plans over the years are either felons or have been credibly accused of committing felonies. (It’s very tedious to research, but I’m slowly building a list.) It’s safe to say that he has an eye for a certain type of person. The odds were pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34926 "2019-07-28T04:48:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > So you feel it should have less impact or consideration because it’s not _primarily_ racist? > > ETA: I mean, exactly what point are you trying to make by pointing out this, your belief? 😕 I’ve got a problem with it because this plays into the mindset that Democrats think everything is racist. We were right to say “Go back to where you came from” is racist. But I’m not so sure about this. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34927 "2019-07-28T05:05:09Z")
Individual-1 complains that he is being treated unfairly: [they never investigated Obama](http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/trump-investigate-obama-book.html), not even when Republicans had control of Congress, so, why am _I_ being picked on? When asked for specifics on Obama’s malfeasance, Individual-1 fumbles around for a bit before finally coming up with: _he wrote a book_. ---
**Author:** ![Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34928 "2019-07-28T05:51:49Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > When asked for specifics on Obama’s malfeasance, Individual-1 fumbles around for a bit before finally coming up with: _he wrote a book_. Actually, I have some grudging respect for the orange one. I wouldn’t have expected him to have the mental agility to pivot so cleverly away from the real reason: _he has read a book. Maybe even more than one!!!11!!1!_ ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34929 "2019-07-28T07:33:54Z")
> [@Sandwich](#): > > Actually, I have some grudging respect for the orange one. I wouldn’t have expected him to have the mental agility to pivot so cleverly away from the real reason: _he has read a book. Maybe even more than one!!!11!!1!_ He’s probably upset about Obama’s “fake books” selling more copies than _The Art of the Deal_. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34930 "2019-07-28T13:18:59Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > He’s probably upset about Obama’s “fake books” selling more copies than _The Art of the Deal_. There’s a comment on the Amazon review page that _The Art of the Deal_ is the only book the reviewer has seen with four Chapter 11s. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34931 "2019-07-28T13:45:14Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > There’s a comment on the Amazon review page that _The Art of the Deal_ is the only book the reviewer has seen with four Chapter 11s. Who knew double digits could be so hard. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34932 "2019-07-28T13:52:59Z")
> [@Tea-Totaller Trump](#): > > I’ve always liked American wines better than French wines. Even though I don’t drink wine. I just like the way they look. > **[Trump threatens tariffs against 'foolish' Macron](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49131301?fbclid=IwAR28eJGjKnX9itYHzeaIDoaL_Fc0a5OUqIgDOIn_R9J8Wc6ifVAdDp366s8)** > > The US president hints he will retaliate against a French digital tax by imposing duty on French wine. Trump’s family owns a winery. Trump wine has been described as tasting like Welch’s Grape Jelly with alcohol. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34933 "2019-07-28T14:09:27Z")
Should I just go ahead and assume that the Republicans will reverse course without shame when a Democratic president in the future takes advantages of any of the newly identified powers and precedents set by this president? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34934 "2019-07-28T14:13:45Z")
You mean if one is illegally elected, despite the clear majority of white thinking Americans? \* Right\* thinking Americans! Darn spellcheck! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34935 "2019-07-28T14:18:53Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [Trump threatens tariffs against 'foolish' Macron](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49131301?fbclid=IwAR28eJGjKnX9itYHzeaIDoaL_Fc0a5OUqIgDOIn_R9J8Wc6ifVAdDp366s8) > > Trump’s family owns a winery. Trump wine has been described as tasting like Welch’s Grape Jelly with alcohol. Actually, this reminds me of a Steve Martin bit. Waiter: Would you like red wine, or white? Steve Martin: Ooh! You have colours? I’d like a beige wine. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34936 "2019-07-28T14:54:00Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Actually, this reminds me of a Steve Martin bit. > > Waiter: Would you like red wine, or white? > > Steve Martin: Ooh! You have colours? I’d like a beige wine. I always have trouble deciding. I order the plaid. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34937 "2019-07-28T15:04:09Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [Trump threatens tariffs against 'foolish' Macron](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49131301?fbclid=IwAR28eJGjKnX9itYHzeaIDoaL_Fc0a5OUqIgDOIn_R9J8Wc6ifVAdDp366s8) > > Trump’s family owns a winery. Trump wine has been described as tasting like Welch’s Grape Jelly with alcohol. But it pairs so well with [Trump steaks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Steaks). ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34938 "2019-07-28T15:26:05Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > But it pairs so well with [Trump steaks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Steaks). All the gristle, half the meat! Best served Well Done after being dunked in cold ketchup." ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34939 "2019-07-28T15:28:35Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Should I just go ahead and assume that the Republicans will reverse course without shame when a Democratic president in the future takes advantages of any of the newly identified powers and precedents set by this president? My concern is that they are opening all this up because they know that there will not be another democrat in the white house once they have secured our elections from tampering by the citizens trying to vote. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34940 "2019-07-28T17:36:42Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > But it pairs so well with [Trump steaks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Steaks). Who the ever lovin’ fuck would buy steak on qvc? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34941 "2019-07-28T17:39:50Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Who the ever lovin’ fuck would buy steak on qvc? 40% of the country would probably be a safe estimate. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34942 "2019-07-28T18:29:16Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Median household income of Elijah Cumming’s MD-07 district: $58,128. Median household income of Jim Jordan’s OH-04 district: $54,480. > Mean household income of MD-07: $85,534. Mean household income of OH-04: $62,835 Yes. That fact is probably very comforting for the poor living in the rat-infested neighborhoods of Baltimore. Perhaps it should be added to the obituaries of those murdered every week so everyone will feel better. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34943 "2019-07-28T19:21:58Z")
Apart from the racist undertones, there’s something I thought was interesting about Trump’s attack on Cummings. Trump said Cummings should spend more time addressing the problems of people in his district. As the President, does Trump not realize that Baltimore is also part of his district? I think it’s significant that the President could wash his hands of an entire American city, say that the problems of hundreds of thousands of Americans are no concern of his, an no one bats an eye. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/34944 "2019-07-28T19:29:21Z")
[Another one bites the dust](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-coats/u-s-spy-chief-coats-to-step-down-in-coming-days-nyt-idUSKCN1UN0QQ?il=0). (Reuters) > [@](#): > > Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, who has clashed with U.S. President Donald Trump over assessments involving Russia, Iran and North Korea, is expected to step down in the coming days, the New York Times reported on Sunday, citing people familiar with the matter. > > Trump is seriously considering tapping U.S. Representative John Ratcliffe, a fellow Republican, to replace Coats in the job, a source told Reuters on condition of anonymity. I know a lot of people don’t put much stock into what Daily Kos publishes, but putting aside their partisan slant, they tend to rely on facts far more than any right wing “news” outlet. I find the assessment offered by the link below to be especially chilling: [There is a Strategy Behind Trump’s Madness, and It’s Already Much Later Than You Think](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/7/26/1874596/-There-is-a-strategy-behind-Trump-s-madness-and-it-s-already-much-later-than-you-think?detail=emaildksp). (Mark Sumner) I find it difficult to refute a single word of Mr. Sumner’s opinion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1746) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1748)