# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3481 "2017-04-20T13:51:41Z")

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I think (I could be wrong) what ThelmaLou is asking is why weren’t the staff allowed in the 2016 picture when they were allowed in the 2015 picture.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3482 "2017-04-20T14:08:47Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I think (I could be wrong) what ThelmaLou is asking is why weren’t the staff allowed in the 2016 picture when they were allowed in the 2015 picture.

Trump doesn’t care much for _the help_.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3483 "2017-04-20T18:16:59Z")

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[So Sarah Palin, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent visit the White House](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-menu-sarah-palin-ted-nugent-kid-rock-n748816) …

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3484 "2017-04-20T18:59:47Z")

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So what time does “Ow My Balls!” come on again? I want to time with my ‘batin’.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3485 "2017-04-20T19:23:57Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Probably the NYTimes editorial board, [upon getting a tweet from the Patriots](http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-patriots-call-out-new-york-times-for-white-house-photo-tweet-lacks-context/). C’mon guys, let’s not freak out over every little thing. The Times messed up, then immediately and without further indignity corrected the record.

The link to that tweet shows both pictures, if anyone missed the first go-round. “Lacks context”?? The Trump Administration \*\*IS \*\*the context. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3486 "2017-04-20T19:45:12Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The link to that tweet shows both pictures, if anyone missed the first go-round. “Lacks context”?? The Trump Administration \*\*IS \*\*the context. :rolleyes:

Eh, they _ORIGINALLY_ claimed 34 players attended this year and 36 attended in 2015.

Unfortunately, 50 players attended in 2015. 36 players attended when Dubya was President.

ETA: Emphasis, and new correction from Patriots Twitter

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3487 "2017-04-20T19:48:30Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [So Sarah Palin, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent visit the White House](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-menu-sarah-palin-ted-nugent-kid-rock-n748816) …

SNL writes itself.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3488 "2017-04-20T19:49:56Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> So what time does “Ow My Balls!” come on again? I want to time with my ‘batin’.

You be careful, scrote, or president Mountain Dew Trump will sentence you to some Rehabilitation.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3489 "2017-04-20T20:20:09Z")

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I just want to note, for the record, that Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III was in the fucking _sixth grade_ when Hawaii became a state, and its component islands, as a result, became a bit more than just ‘[an island in the Pacific](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/20/jeff-sessions-doesnt-think-a-judge-in-hawaii-a-k-a-an-island-in-the-pacific-should-overrule-trump/?utm_term=.270feb69d340).’

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3490 "2017-04-20T21:11:38Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I just want to note, for the record, that Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III was in the fucking _sixth grade_ when Hawaii became a state, and its component islands, as a result, became a bit more than just ‘[an island in the Pacific](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/20/jeff-sessions-doesnt-think-a-judge-in-hawaii-a-k-a-an-island-in-the-pacific-should-overrule-trump/?utm_term=.270feb69d340).’

Sometimes I wonder if the administration is just all so fucking stupid as to defy belief, and them sometimes I think, no, they can’t ALL be that stupid - they must just think their constituencies are that stupid.

Wait, is it time for “Ow, My Balls!” yet?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3491 "2017-04-20T21:37:02Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I just want to note, for the record, that Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III was in the fucking _sixth grade_ when Hawaii became a state, and its component islands, as a result, became a bit more than just ‘[an island in the Pacific](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/20/jeff-sessions-doesnt-think-a-judge-in-hawaii-a-k-a-an-island-in-the-pacific-should-overrule-trump/?utm_term=.270feb69d340).’

Sessions was also only eight years old when asked to be the model for _Mad Magazine_’s Alfred E. Neuman. “What, [me](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C59j6xrWAAEMyoa.jpg) [worry](http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/smashbroslawlorigins/images/5/54/Alfred_Neuman.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150116133328)?”

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3492 "2017-04-20T21:50:00Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Sessions was also only eight years old when asked to be the model for _Mad Magazine_’s Alfred E. Neuman. “What, [me](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C59j6xrWAAEMyoa.jpg) [worry](http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/smashbroslawlorigins/images/5/54/Alfred_Neuman.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150116133328)?”
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> Stranger

😃

And the winner of “The Trump Administration” thread is…

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3493 "2017-04-20T21:54:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “No administration has accomplished more in the first 90 days.”
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> — President Trump, remarks in Kenosha, Wis., April 18, 2017

“Fact Checker: Trump’s claim that ‘no administration has accomplished more in the first 90 days’”  
[http://wapo.st/2oMpeWq](http://wapo.st/2oMpeWq)

But in what way?

Most chaos–check.  
Greatest number of embarrassing moments–check.  
Most walk-backs–check.  
Most games of golf played–check.  
Most lies–check.  
Most appointment vacancies–check.

Maybe he’s got something there.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3494 "2017-04-21T01:00:18Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I just want to note, for the record, that Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III was in the fucking _sixth grade_ when Hawaii became a state, and its component islands, as a result, became a bit more than just ‘[an island in the Pacific](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/20/jeff-sessions-doesnt-think-a-judge-in-hawaii-a-k-a-an-island-in-the-pacific-should-overrule-trump/?utm_term=.270feb69d340).’

What’s worse to me about that is that the motherfucking Attorney Fucking General of the United Fucking States is questioning the right of the federal judiciary to issue an order blocking a Presidential order. :mad:

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3495 "2017-04-21T03:18:03Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> What’s worse to me about that is that the motherfucking Attorney Fucking General of the United Fucking States is questioning the right of the federal judiciary to issue an order blocking a Presidential order. :mad:

Why, it sounds like the judge doesn’t realize he works for the President! Da noive!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3496 "2017-04-21T04:56:15Z")

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[Alfred E. Sessions](https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es6crzx4zqwwme/AlfredESessions.gif?dl=0)

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3497 "2017-04-21T15:09:42Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [So Sarah Palin, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent visit the White House](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-menu-sarah-palin-ted-nugent-kid-rock-n748816) …

Saw that on Facebook. Wished for a puke emoticon.

Here is a slightly expanded version of the same photo:  
[![](https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.yuku.com/image/jpg/f7d263c1a4f212750ecf1f6c7f1b4130a5803071_r.jpg) ](https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.yuku.com/image/jpg/f7d263c1a4f212750ecf1f6c7f1b4130a5803071_r.jpg)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3498 "2017-04-21T16:23:50Z")

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Fake News! Fake News!

[QUOTE=“[the independent (uk)]  
([Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conference | The Independent | The Independent](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-dangerous-mental-illness-yale-psychiatrist-conference-us-president-unfit-james-gartner-a7694316.html))”]Speaking at the conference at Yale’s School of Medicine on Thursday, one of the mental health professionals, Dr John Gartner, a practising psychotherapist who advised psychiatric residents at Johns Hopkins University Medical School, said: “We have an ethical responsibility to warn the public about Donald Trump’s dangerous mental illness.”

“Worse than just being a liar or a narcissist, in addition he is paranoid, delusional and grandiose thinking and he proved that to the country the first day he was President. If Donald Trump really believes he had the largest crowd size in history, that’s delusional,”

Chairing the event, Dr Bandy Lee, assistant clinical professor in the Yale Department of Psychiatry, said: “As some prominent psychiatrists have noted, [Trump’s mental health] is the elephant in the room. I think the public is really starting to catch on and widely talk about this now.”

James Gilligan, a psychiatrist and professor at New York University … “I’ve worked with some of the most dangerous people our society produces, directing mental health programmes in prisons … I’ve worked with murderers and rapists. I can recognise dangerousness from a mile away. You don’t have to be an expert on dangerousness or spend fifty years studying it like I have in order to know how dangerous this man is.”

The claims made in the conference have drawn criticism from some in the psychiatric establishment, who say they violate the American Psychiatric Association’s “Goldwater rule,” which states psychiatrists are not to give professional opinions on people they have not personally examined.

They have also been condemned by Republicans, including Connecticut Republican Party Chairman JR Romano, who accused the group of “throwing ethical standards out the window because they cannot accept the election results.”

A spokesperson for Yale University told The Independent the panel at the conference abided by the Goldwater rule during the discussions, but that the organiser was “troubled” by the “silencing of debate”. The doctors have said that even if it is in breach of tradition ethical standards of psychiatry, it was necessary to break their silence on the matter because they feared “too much is at stake”.

It is not the first time Mr Trump’s mental health has been called into question. In February, Duty to Warn, which consists of psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers, [signed an open letter](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mental-health-new-york-times-incapable-being-president-warning-open-letter-a7578831.html) warning that his mental state “makes him incapable of serving safely as president”.  
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Geez, I swear, why do journalists have to write stories that restate the same thing four times? I cut more than half the text out of this and almost the whole story is still there.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3499 "2017-04-21T17:31:42Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Geez, I swear, why do journalists have to write stories that restate the same thing four times?

Because the average Trump supporter has the attention span of a goldfish?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3500 "2017-04-21T18:00:21Z")

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I always disapprove of medical professionals who are trying to diagnose a person they’ve never met based on their public persona. Whether that person is from the left or the right.

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