# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 176
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3501 "2017-04-21T18:19:46Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I always disapprove of medical professionals who are trying to diagnose a person they’ve never met based on their public persona. Whether that person is from the left or the right. Good thing I’m not a medical professional. Trump is batshit loony toons. Or a selfish, self centered asshole. Or all of that and more. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3502 "2017-04-21T18:28:55Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Good thing I’m not a medical professional. > > Trump is batshit loony toons. Or a selfish, self centered asshole. Or all of that and more. See, your assessment, I have no problems with. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3503 "2017-04-21T20:01:41Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Saw that on Facebook. Wished for a puke emoticon. > > Here is a slightly expanded version of the same photo: > [https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.yuku.com/image/jpg/f7d263c1a4f212750ecf1f6c7f1b4130a5803071\_r.jpg](https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.yuku.com/image/jpg/f7d263c1a4f212750ecf1f6c7f1b4130a5803071_r.jpg) Laugh of the day. Thanks! 😃 Wish they would’ve put in Pres Comacho. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3504 "2017-04-21T20:32:50Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I always disapprove of medical professionals who are trying to diagnose a person they’ve never met based on their public persona. Whether that person is from the left or the right. While not actually diagnosing somebody is understandable, I would like to point out that the Goldwater “rule” was generated in an era of three networks, multiple newspapers, extremely limited access to the politicians, very little archived video, with and by a generation that little understood publicity as we do now. Today, however, “being yourself” and being public is far more the norm, and tracking a person as relentlessly visible as Donald Trump has been for 40 years and saying “this guy is exhibiting classic symptoms of X” isn’t, in my _non_-professional opinion, a disservice to the profession, the President, or the American people. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3505 "2017-04-21T20:34:33Z")
Kid Rock, Ted Nugent and Sarah palin walk into a bar. This is the stupidest fucking joke I’ve ever heard! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3506 "2017-04-21T20:38:03Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Good thing I’m not a medical professional. > > Trump is batshit loony toons. Or a selfish, self centered asshole. Or all of that and more. Or both\> and more ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3507 "2017-04-21T20:38:59Z")
Clearly we need [Dr. Sidney Schaefer](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062153/)’s professional opinion. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3508 "2017-04-21T20:39:36Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Kid Rock, Ted Nugent and Sarah palin walk into a bar. > This is the stupidest fucking joke I’ve ever heard! It really turned my fucking stomach to see “Mister Shit In His Pants Little Girl Fucking Draft Dodging Cunt” Ted Nugent defile the fucking White House with his foul fucking presence. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3509 "2017-04-21T20:41:31Z")
Let’s hope that crap wasn’t running down his legs and staining the carpet. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3510 "2017-04-21T20:47:16Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > It really turned my fucking stomach to see “Mister Shit In His Pants Little Girl Fucking Draft Dodging Cunt” Ted Nugent defile the fucking White House with his foul fucking presence. [He later claimed he made up the story.](http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/nugent.asp) > [@](#): > > Questioned about that account some thirty years later (by which time Nugent was known as a staunch political conservative, a supporter of the Republican Party, and an advocate of hunting and gun ownership rights) in an interview with the UK’s Independent newspaper, Nugent disclaimed that previous account of his draft-evading activities as story he had made up and fed to a gullible High Times reporter and asserted that he actually had avoided the draft through the legitimate means of a student deferment > > An analysis of Ted Nugent’s Selective Service classification record doesn’t prove or disprove either version of the story. He did indeed receive a high school student deferment (1-S) in 1967 and then (as he stated) a college student deferment (2-S) in 1968. However, he was reclassified as “available for military service” (1-A) in 1969 and then subsequently rejected as a result of a physical examination and given a 1-Y classification. (The 1-Y classification denoted persons “qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency” and was generally assigned to registrants who had exhibited medical conditions that were limiting but not disabling.) After the 1-Y classification was eliminated by the Selective Service at the end of 1971, Nugent was reclassified as 4-F (“registrant not qualified for any military service”). > > So, Ted Nugent did have a student deferment for part of the time he was eligible for the Vietnam-era draft, but he also did fail a physical examination and receive a medical exemption (which, as far as we know, he has neither acknowledged nor explained). But in the absence of more specific information about the results of that physical examination and the reasons for his medical exemption, it cannot be ascertained how truthful the account Nugent gave to High Times magazine back in 1977 might be. (Ted Nugent’s press representative did not respond to a request for additional information about this subject.) ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3511 "2017-04-21T20:51:20Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [He later claimed he made up the story.](http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/nugent.asp) I was in the Army between 1973 and 1977. So I was one of those Commie hippy guys he wanted to shoot (he said that). My reaction then was the same as it is now — I hope you fucking TRY. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3512 "2017-04-21T21:30:57Z")
Gee, I wonder what the right wing commentary would have been if Michelle Obama had worn that off-the-shoulder blouse in the White House? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3513 "2017-04-21T21:34:49Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Gee, I wonder what the right wing commentary would have been if Michelle Obama had worn that off-the-shoulder blouse in the White House? Far more of an uproar than there was over Melania’s nude photos. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3514 "2017-04-21T21:38:25Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I was in the Army between 1973 and 1977. So I was one of those Commie hippy guys he wanted to shoot (he said that). My reaction then was the same as it is now — > I hope you fucking TRY. Go get’em **SteveG1**. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3515 "2017-04-22T01:27:22Z")
This thread could surpass the Stupid Republican Idea of the Day thread. That thread took 914 days to finish page 70. This thread finished page 70 in just 137 days. That says something about the stupid being really, really strong with 45. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3516 "2017-04-22T01:37:27Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > This thread could surpass the Stupid Republican Idea of the Day thread. > > That thread took 914 days to finish page 70. This thread finished page 70 in just 137 days. > > That says something about the stupid being really, really strong with 45. How much of each thread is ideas/occurrences and discussion/derision? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3517 "2017-04-22T01:46:09Z")
Well, SRIotD started in March of '09. There have been lulls in Republican stupity worthy of posting about (I think are entire month or longer gaps in the earlier part of the decade, because you cannot always expect performance art to be steady and consistent). This thread specifically hinges on this administration’s continuing existence, which is not much of a certainty. Many of us would like to see this thread end abruptly (preferably soon) due to lack of relevance. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3518 "2017-04-22T02:23:41Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > This thread could surpass the Stupid Republican Idea of the Day thread. > > That thread took 914 days to finish page 70. This thread finished page 70 in just 137 days. Well, at least there is one quantifiable way in which the Trump presidency has accomplish more in its first hundred days than all that proceeded it. > [@eschereal](#): > > Well, SRIotD started in March of '09. There have been lulls in Republican stupity worthy of posting about (I think are entire month or longer gaps in the earlier part of the decade, because you cannot always expect performance art to be steady and consistent). This thread specifically hinges on this administration’s continuing existence, which is not much of a certainty. Many of us would like to see this thread end abruptly (preferably soon) due to lack of relevance. Just remember, what follows wind and lightning may be worse. Pence is at least marginally competent and just as vile. He and Jeff Sessions would love nothing more than to turn back the clock at least to the 'Fifties, and maybe the Eighteen-Fifties. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3519 "2017-04-22T02:26:52Z")
[Trump voters don’t believe he has played more golf than Obama in first 3 months](https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trumps-voters-dont-believe-played-205023631.html) > [@](#): > > A Thursday poll from the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling shows that 53% of respondents who said they voted for Trump in November said Obama had outpaced Trump on trips to the golf course during each president’s first three months in office. Just 20% of Trump voters said Trump played more golf, while 27% said they were unsure. > > During his first three months in office, Trump spent 19 days at a golf course and played golf on at least 13 occasions, according to The New York Times. > > The Times found that Obama spent no days at a golf course during his first three months. Talk about living in a bubble. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3520 "2017-04-22T02:38:16Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Clearly we need [Dr. Sidney Schaefer](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062153/)’s professional opinion. I’d rather hear from [Major Sidney Freedman](http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0009467/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t27). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=175) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=177)