# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1761
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35205 "2019-08-06T15:29:07Z")
The US ambassador to Russia, Jon Huntsman, is resigning: > ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35206 "2019-08-06T15:37:31Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The US ambassador to Russia, Jon Huntsman, is resigning: > > [https://twitter.com/sltrib/status/1158754551589146624?s=20](https://twitter.com/sltrib/status/1158754551589146624?s=20) I’m sure Vlad has already chosen his replacement. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35207 "2019-08-06T16:35:55Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The US ambassador to Russia, Jon Huntsman, is resigning: > > [https://twitter.com/sltrib/status/1158754551589146624?s=20](https://twitter.com/sltrib/status/1158754551589146624?s=20) Putin[informed Trump](https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/02/politics/trump-putin-huntsman/index.html)who the new ambassador will be last week - before Huntsman resigned. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35208 "2019-08-06T16:38:19Z")
> [@simster](#): > > make sure the ink is dry - It’s amazing how fast they got Trump on the $3 bill. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35209 "2019-08-06T16:50:49Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It’s amazing how fast they got Trump on the $3 bill. worth about .25 yaun ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35210 "2019-08-06T17:09:39Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Putin[informed Trump](https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/02/politics/trump-putin-huntsman/index.html)who the new ambassador will be last week - before Huntsman resigned. Yes, but according to that article it has been known for several months that Huntsman would be on his way out, from the article “Huntsman and his wife in the last few months have been on what appears to be a goodbye tour, according to an embassy source, having dinners with fellow diplomats and others as they prepare to leave the country” This is a long way from Putin telling Trump to change the ambassador. . ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35211 "2019-08-06T17:15:29Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The US ambassador to Russia, Jon Huntsman, is resigning: > > [https://twitter.com/sltrib/status/1158754551589146624?s=20](https://twitter.com/sltrib/status/1158754551589146624?s=20) With any luck, that means they’ll kick his daughter Abby off The View. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35212 "2019-08-06T17:19:22Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Yes, but according to that article it has been known for several months that Huntsman would be on his way out, from the article > > “Huntsman and his wife in the last few months have been on what appears to be a goodbye tour, according to an embassy source, having dinners with fellow diplomats and others as they prepare to leave the country” > This is a long way from Putin telling Trump to change the ambassador. > > . That’s not what EP said. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35213 "2019-08-06T17:21:59Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > With any luck, that means they’ll kick his daughter Abby off The View. A Joy Behar kick, a Whoopi Goldberg kick, or a Megan Rapinoe kick…? (Hey, good TV is good TV… ) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35214 "2019-08-06T19:27:10Z")
08/06/2019 Individual 1 says he is watching Google very carefully to make sure they aren’t prejudiced against him, or prejudiced against the US military in favor of the Chinese military. > **[Trump warns he is 'watching Google very closely!'](https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/08/06/trump-warns-google-fox-news-1448957)** > > The president's message came after segments on Fox News and the Fox Business Network. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35215 "2019-08-06T19:54:26Z")
Links in the sourced story don’t go anywhere. Either someone made those tweets up, or someone scrubbed them away. Dunno. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35216 "2019-08-06T20:22:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Links in the sourced story don’t go anywhere. Either someone made those tweets up, or someone scrubbed them away. Dunno. Go to the last [linked tweet.](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1110989594521026561) A bunch of tweets before it have been removed. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35217 "2019-08-06T20:38:31Z")
Deleted Trump tweets are recorded on the [Trump Twitter Archive](http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/). Search “Ttump” and you will find it, although the link to the actual tweet is dead. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35218 "2019-08-06T22:35:20Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Yes, but according to that article it has been known for several months that Huntsman would be on his way out, from the article > > “Huntsman and his wife in the last few months have been on what appears to be a goodbye tour, according to an embassy source, having dinners with fellow diplomats and others as they prepare to leave the country” > This is a long way from Putin telling Trump to change the ambassador. > > . You’ll note that I never said that Putin told Trump to change the ambassador. You’ll further note that what I did say was that Putin TOLD Trump who the next ambassador would be. Reading comprehension… It’s fun and easy! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35219 "2019-08-06T22:40:09Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > 08/06/2019 > Individual 1 says he is watching Google very carefully to make sure they aren’t prejudiced against him, or prejudiced against the US military in favor of the Chinese military. > [https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/08/06/trump-warns-google-fox-news-1448957](https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/08/06/trump-warns-google-fox-news-1448957) There is a boil filled with pus on the scrotum of a naked mole rat in East Africa. This boil is smarter than Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35220 "2019-08-06T23:03:41Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > You’ll note that I never said that Putin told Trump to change the ambassador. > > You’ll further note that what I did say was that Putin TOLD Trump who the next ambassador would be. > > Reading comprehension… It’s fun and easy! You should try it, the article states no names were discussed. This admin is a cluster, this just isn’t evidence of it. . ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35221 "2019-08-06T23:40:02Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > You should try it, the article states no names were discussed. > This admin is a cluster, this just isn’t evidence of it. > > . The source for that information is who? And you believe them; why? ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35222 "2019-08-07T00:26:44Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > The source for that information is who? And you believe them; why? Should I just believe EP when he states Putin told Trump who the new ambassador should be and just disbelieve the items in the article EP linked to support his statement, that disagree with the statement EP made ? Maybe we should just make up random shit because it sounds like it might be true and fits our view of the world. "Putin[informed Trump](https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/02/politics/trump-putin-huntsman/index.html)who the new ambassador will be last week - before Huntsman resigned. [**35281**](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21790556&postcount=35281) " When I read " - before Huntsman resigned" I took it that EP was implying that Putin informing Trump with a new name for the Ambassador was the catalyst for forcing Huntsmans resignation. Now I see EP was simply stating the facts of the time line of a conjectured event and nothing more, my bad. I agree this administration is a cluster, this is not evidence of it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35223 "2019-08-07T00:52:56Z")
I read EP’s post as kidding on the square. To be honest, I’m sure it’s a best practice to quietly vet ambassadors with the countries they’ll be taking up residence in… but in the past I’m pretty sure it was done through channels rather than the Presidents cell. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35224 "2019-08-07T01:02:32Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > 08/06/2019 > Individual 1 says he is watching Google very carefully to make sure they aren’t prejudiced against him, or prejudiced against the US military in favor of the Chinese military. > [https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/08/06/trump-warns-google-fox-news-1448957](https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/08/06/trump-warns-google-fox-news-1448957) Does Google owe some allegiance to the US military that I’m unaware about? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1760) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1762)