# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1771
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35405 "2019-08-14T02:53:25Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > He’s said several times that he wants to end trade deficits. Okay, now how does he actually intend to put that in a quantifiable, enforceable trade agreement? For every dollar the U.S. spends in China, China has to spend a dollar here; on what, and what happens if there’s nothing here that someone in China wants to buy? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35406 "2019-08-14T03:49:44Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > “What a…what’s the word? Pair? No, it can’t be that. I’m not talking about fruit. A pear is a big beautiful fruit. And it’s an American fruit. It’s such a beautiful fruit that it’ll keep the doctor away. I coined that term, you know, keep the doctor away. That’s why you don’t need Obamacare. Just eat more American fruit. And since China isn’t importing American fruit anymore, you’ll have plenty of them to buy and that will help our farmers. Speaking of fruits, look at those nuts (some people will say nuts aren’t fruit, but they’re wrong. They’re not meat and they’re not vegetables, so what are they?) in loser California wanting sanctuary cities. Let 'em have those sanctuary cities. Let’s send our worst criminals there and they’ll see what it’s like.” **Monty** , keep this up, and you’re going to give **Smapti** a run for his money. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35407 "2019-08-14T03:57:51Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > August 13, 2019 > Ken Cuccinelli, the acting Citizenship and Immigration Services Director, says that the motto on the Statue of Liberty should be changed to ““Give me your tired and your poor who can stand on their own two feet and who will not become a public charge.” > [Trump official criticizes Statue of Liberty sonnet as too nice to immigrants - Vox](https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/8/13/20803621/ken-cuccinelli-statue-of-liberty-public-charge-trump) When they say only the affluent are entitled to be American citizens, they don’t intend to apply that only to immigrants. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35408 "2019-08-14T04:34:56Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Jesus Christ, he’s such a moron. “The wind and the televisions go off. And your wives and husbands say ‘Darling, I want to watch Donald Trump on television tonight. But the wind stopped blowing and I can’t watch.” Somehow, the prospect of being at home with his wife and not being able to watch television strikes me as one of the things Loser Donald fears most in life. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35409 "2019-08-14T04:58:54Z")
> [@Monty as Tan the Conman](#): > > Let 'em have those sanctuary cities. Let’s send our worst criminals there and they’ll see what it’s like." So, Tan himself and all those people he’s been firing after discovering they were losers? I have a feeling most of California doesn’t want 'em. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35410 "2019-08-14T05:26:49Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > So, Tan himself and all those people he’s been firing after discovering they were losers? I have a feeling most of California doesn’t want 'em. The 13[sup]th[/sup] specifically mentions “_… except as a punishment for crime …_”, so a Blue state could accept them and then invoke that clause, saying that they shall be subject to involuntary servitude for the period to which they have been sentenced, with no relief, save for the void. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35411 "2019-08-14T08:49:24Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > Who uses “group” to refer to two people? “What a…what’s the word? Pair? No, it can’t be that. I’m not talking about fruit. A pear is a big beautiful fruit. And it’s an American fruit. It’s such a beautiful fruit that it’ll keep the doctor away. I coined that term, you know, keep the doctor away. That’s why you don’t need Obamacare. Just eat more American fruit. And since China isn’t importing American fruit anymore, you’ll have plenty of them to buy and that will help our farmers. Speaking of fruits, look at those nuts (some people will say nuts aren’t fruit, but they’re wrong. They’re not meat and they’re not vegetables, so what are they?) in loser California wanting sanctuary cities. Let 'em have those sanctuary cities. Let’s send our worst criminals there and they’ll see what it’s like.” > > **Monty** , keep this up, and you’re going to give **Smapti** a run for his money. **Spoons** : One of my fellow teachers here says our students will read the prompt for an essay question and instead of processing the whole prompt, they will recognize (or think they recognize) one word, then go write what he calls a “stream of consciousness” pertaining to that word. Tan the Conman talks with what I call “domino words”. He’ll start with one word, then the second word fits the first word, and the third word fits the second word, and so on (up to what would be 56 words by typewriter speed test count). Words 1 and 2 mesh, 2 and 3 mesh, 3 and 4 mesh. The problem is words 1, 2, 3, 4…make no sense in the order he spews them. Heck, I dont’ think any permutation of the words he spews would make sense. Except for his racist and other bigoted comments. _Those_ he’s gotten down pat. > [@Nava](#): > > > [@Monty as Tan the Conman](#): > > > > Let 'em have those sanctuary cities. Let’s send our worst criminals there and they’ll see what it’s like." > > So, Tan himself and all those people he’s been firing after discovering they were losers? :D:D:D And thanks for going along with my favorite name for Witless in the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35412 "2019-08-14T10:29:19Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > August 13, 2019 > Ken Cuccinelli, the acting Citizenship and Immigration Services Director, says that the motto on the Statue of Liberty should be changed to ““Give me your tired and your poor who can stand on their own two feet and who will not become a public charge.” > [Trump official criticizes Statue of Liberty sonnet as too nice to immigrants - Vox](https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/8/13/20803621/ken-cuccinelli-statue-of-liberty-public-charge-trump) I want to give full credit to \*\*kaylasdad99 \*\*who [fucking called this a year ago](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21116523&postcount=4280). > [@How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4284): > > The New Colossus (v. 45) > > Not like that massive woman facing East > With long green robes that reach down to her toes > (Too bad that she should have so many clothes; > You’d think she’d show a little thigh, at least) > But I digress - protect us from the beast, > The mule, the raping, thieving, killing horde, > Who, from his shit-hole country tries to board > Our great White ship that bears us to our feast. > > Hold back the so-called “refugees” out there. > Send me your oligarchs, flush with success > Whose deals with me are always more than fair, > Who buy my real estate without much stress. > While Fox and Friends all praise me on the air, > We’ll show my base that they can do with less. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35413 "2019-08-14T10:44:52Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Somehow, the prospect of\*\* being at home with his wife\*\* and not being able to watch television strikes me as one of the things Loser Donald **fears most in life.** Same as her. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35414 "2019-08-14T12:41:01Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > … and what happens if there’s nothing here that someone in China wants to buy? Both the NRA and the entire Republican party are up for sale at bargain-basement prices. I’m certain they can find _someone_ to buy. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35415 "2019-08-14T12:44:24Z")
Might start a “upcoming recession” thread for this one, but want to park it here for now: Yield on 2 year treasuries is higher than on 10yr treasuries for the first time since 2007. Look at linked chart and notice the correlation between this fact and recessionary periods. > ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35416 "2019-08-14T13:40:05Z")
Well, the pundits who actually know what they’re talking about were predicting in March that 1Q 2019 would be the best economic news for a while. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35417 "2019-08-14T14:48:57Z")
Summary of Trump’s supposedly non-political speech in Pennsylvania yesterday: > **[Daniel Dale Summarizes Trump's Nutty Speech in Pennsylvania.](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/8/14/1878944/-Daniel-Dale-Summarizes-Trump-s-Nutty-Speech-in-Pennsylvania?utm_campaign=trending)** > > Trump made what was supposed to be a policy speech in PA. yesterday but, in violation of the Hatch Act, he turned it into a political rally. CNN Reporter Daniel Dale was there to summarize the speech for us. (following is a unrolling of Dale’s... An excerpt: > [@](#): > > Trump falsely says China “flatlined” for “100 years” until it was allowed in the WTO. It was one of the world’s fastest-growing economies in the decades prior. Trump then falsely claims the US was just losing and losing at the WTO before him and now “they’re giving us victories.” > > Trump, complaining of emoluments suits against him, says this presidency is costing him a “fortune” and mocks complaints about him renting hotel rooms to Saudis for “$500.” He says, “What about the $5 billion that I’ll lose?” (There’s no evidence he’s losing that.) > > Mocking complaints about his business dealings as president, Trump complains that Obama’s $60 million book deal isn’t being investigated even though it’s such a big amount. He says there’s a double standard for him. These things are not at all alike. > > Trump, miming computer manufacturing as if it’s a dainty endeavor, mocks the suggestion that workers would want to learn to work in a computer plant and make a “little tiny piece of stuff.” He says they wanna dig coal and manufacture steel. > > Trump falsely says of China, “They don’t have oil and gas.” > > Trump says, looking back at the media in the room, “That’s a lot of people back there for like an 11 o’clock speech.” It is 2:40 PM. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35418 "2019-08-14T15:31:02Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Summary of Trump’s supposedly non-political speech in Pennsylvania yesterday: > > [https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/8/14/1878944/-Daniel-Dale-Summarizes-Trump-s-Nutty-Speech-in-Pennsylvania?utm\_campaign=trending](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/8/14/1878944/-Daniel-Dale-Summarizes-Trump-s-Nutty-Speech-in-Pennsylvania?utm_campaign=trending) > > An excerpt: And Trump’s Chumps believe every word of it. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35419 "2019-08-14T15:44:43Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > August 13, 2019 > Ken Cuccinelli, the acting Citizenship and Immigration Services Director, says that the motto on the Statue of Liberty should be changed to ““Give me your tired and your poor who can stand on their own two feet and who will not become a public charge.” > [Trump official criticizes Statue of Liberty sonnet as too nice to immigrants - Vox](https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/8/13/20803621/ken-cuccinelli-statue-of-liberty-public-charge-trump) Or “Give me your tired (but not so tired that they can’t stand on their own two feet) and poor (again, not TOO poor; this Golden Door ain’t cheap).” Kinda ruins the iambic pentameter required by the sonnet form, but sonnets and iambic pentameter are for librul egghead types, amirite? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35420 "2019-08-14T15:54:20Z")
On the lighter side of the trump news, some people in NYC want to rename the street that trump tower is on. [Guess who they want to name it after?](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-tower-obama-renaming-petition_n_5d537d82e4b05fa9df069011?fbclid=IwAR0Cj2almyRFJred3lzzAZ4dAW03hgdhFnFDf0RSBT726KCOh-2dAUdiMhk) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35421 "2019-08-14T16:00:15Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > On the lighter side of the trump news, some people in NYC want to rename the street that trump tower is on. > > [Guess who they want to name it after?](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-tower-obama-renaming-petition_n_5d537d82e4b05fa9df069011?fbclid=IwAR0Cj2almyRFJred3lzzAZ4dAW03hgdhFnFDf0RSBT726KCOh-2dAUdiMhk) > [@](#): > > As Newsweek noted, however, Rowin’s petition fails to meet one important requirement for street renaming in New York. City rules dictate that the person being honored should be deceased. If that’s the case, let’s name it after the America-hating fuckstick. As fast as possible. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35422 "2019-08-14T16:02:38Z")
Just name it “Tubman blvd” and let the double-entendres settle down. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35423 "2019-08-14T16:39:23Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Just name it “Tubman blvd” and let the double-entendres settle down. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > If that’s the case, let’s name it after the America-hating fuckstick. As fast as possible. Let’s compromise and rename it “America Hating Tubman Blvd”. “Fuckstick” has a nice NY attitude to it, but it just won’t fly with the rest of the country. “in today’s top news story, disgraced former president trump jumped from his gold-plated penthouse apartment and landed in the middle of Fuckstick Blvd…” ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35424 "2019-08-14T16:40:43Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > On the lighter side of the trump news, some people in NYC want to rename the street that trump tower is on. > > [Guess who they want to name it after?](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-tower-obama-renaming-petition_n_5d537d82e4b05fa9df069011?fbclid=IwAR0Cj2almyRFJred3lzzAZ4dAW03hgdhFnFDf0RSBT726KCOh-2dAUdiMhk) **McCain**? It would work – he’s deceased (sadly) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1770) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1772)