# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35565 "2019-08-20T13:03:14Z")

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He’s already laying the groundwork. Liberals are wrecking the economy to make him look bad, says Darth Shit-for-Brains.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35566 "2019-08-20T13:40:38Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> He’s already laying the groundwork. Liberals are wrecking the economy to make him look bad, says Darth Shit-for-Brains.

I don’t think a day has gone by in the last two years that Donny Two Scoops hasn’t bragged about how awesome the US economy is under his regime, more awesome than at any other time in the history of mankind (particularly that period from 2008-16). At the same time, he continually complains that the Fed is holding him down and if they let him have his way it would be even way more awesomer. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35567 "2019-08-20T14:22:08Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> He’s already laying the groundwork. Liberals are wrecking the economy to make him look bad, says Darth Shit-for-Brains.

I _knew_ it had to be liberals’ fault!

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35568 "2019-08-20T14:49:31Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> I’m not sure I remember a previous instance of Trump so openly reminding us that an Administration member he’s criticizing is his own appointee. Does he just imagine we’ve all forgotten about his claim to appoint “only the best people”?

No, he just won’t acknowledge that he said it. He whined about Sessions all the time, after Sessions recused himself from overseeing the Mueller investigation. He threw Bannon under the bus when he fired him, but now that Bannon makes headlines occasionally, Trump praises him.

That’s how Trump deflects criticism. In his mind, it’s never his fault if his actions have consequences.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35569 "2019-08-20T15:12:56Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Look how prescient you are. [Senior White House Officials Eye Tax Cut to Avert Slowdown](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-tax/senior-white-house-officials-eye-tax-cut-to-avert-slowdown-washington-post-idUSKCN1V91VW). (Reuters)

When the bubble bursts and starts to deflate it’s time to man the bicycle pumps.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35570 "2019-08-20T15:24:56Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Given that Trump’s re-election chances hinge on the economy: if it continues strong, he has a tiny sliver of a hope of re-election; if we head into recession, he’s going to be buried in a landslide. And given that he has absolutely no scruples and will do anything it takes to help himself…what do you think he will do?

Declare that the election was rigged, and appoint himself President for Life.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35571 "2019-08-20T15:55:03Z")

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[Conway Lies To Fox News Viewers, Claims ‘Antifa’ Stands For ‘Anti-First Amendment’](https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/conway-lies-to-fox-news-viewers-claims-antifa-stands-for-anti-first-amendment/)

> [@Skeleteena](#):
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> Do we know what ‘Antifa’ stands for? It’s ‘anti-First Amendment.’ So, that’s very curious.

Methface Barbie was parroting Fox News contributor Dan Bongino, who said:

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> They’re not counter-protesters, OK? You’ve been in the media [for] a long time. Other outlets do this; it’s called gaslighting. Tell a lie, tell a lie confidently, and isolate people from the truth, and you can get people to believe anything.
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> Antifa are not counter-protesters, it is an anti-First Amendment — that’s what it stands for. They tell you it stands for ‘anti-fascist,’ it really is ‘anti-First Amendment.’ They are an anti-First Amendment, ultra-violent terror group that wants to silence people’s free speech. They are not counter-protesters.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35572 "2019-08-20T16:12:44Z")

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Gun to her head, she couldn’t name one member of Antifas. Antifas is the Weathermen of our time.

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**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35573 "2019-08-20T16:31:01Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Declare that the election was rigged, and appoint himself President for Life.

I truly think Trump knows he’s going to face some sort of indictment when he gets out of office. Michael Cohen is serving prison right now for following Trump’s orders. If he’s in prison, so should Trump. The only reason Trump isn’t is because he’s protected by being in office. This is why I don’t think he’s joking about serving as President for life - he’s depending on the possibility to avoid prosecution outside.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35574 "2019-08-20T16:36:04Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Gun to her head, she couldn’t name one member of Antifas. Antifas is the Weathermen of our time.

I’m pretty sure the leader is a guy called Emmanuel Goldstein. We hate him.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35575 "2019-08-20T17:17:50Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> [Conway Lies To Fox News Viewers, Claims ‘Antifa’ Stands For ‘Anti-First Amendment’](https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/conway-lies-to-fox-news-viewers-claims-antifa-stands-for-anti-first-amendment/)
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> Methface Barbie was parroting Fox News contributor Dan Bongino, who said:

But it’s true! Also, “fascist” means “First Amendment Supporter and Constitutionalist.”

Say it loud, Kellyanne: “I’m a FASCIST and I’m proud!”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35576 "2019-08-20T17:20:44Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> But it’s true! Also, “fascist” means “First Amendment Supporter and Constitutionalist.”
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> Say it loud, Kellyanne: “I’m a FASCIST and I’m proud!”

Yeah… I’m gonna have to steal that.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35577 "2019-08-20T18:53:05Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I’m pretty sure the leader is a guy called Emmanuel Goldstein. We hate him.

Today.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35578 "2019-08-20T18:56:56Z")

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I’ve hated him for that last two minutes.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35579 "2019-08-20T19:25:21Z")

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LOL. Comments like these always make me think that for every new person who stumbles across the dope and thinks “I’ve found my people!” there are two who wonder what the hell you all are on about.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35580 "2019-08-20T20:15:52Z")

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Goldstein? I seem to remember he was the one who

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35581 "2019-08-20T20:24:30Z")

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I am Goldstein

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35582 "2019-08-20T20:29:39Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> I am Goldstein

Me too.

Welcome aboard! There are so many of us, we have to rent a bowling alley for our meetings. Thursday nights at 7, potluck beforehand at 5:45, but that’s optional.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35583 "2019-08-20T22:17:14Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> I am Goldstein

> [@digs](#):
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> Me too.
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> Welcome aboard! There are so many of us, we have to rent a bowling alley for our meetings. Thursday nights at 7, potluck beforehand at 5:45, but that’s optional.

What!? Damnit, I just had my driver’s license changed to Spartacus and now everyone is Goldstein! You’re doing this on purpose 'cuz you don’t want me in your stupid club, aren’t you? Well fine, see if I care. I’ll start my own club with my Canadian girlfriend and none of you guys can join.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35584 "2019-08-20T22:22:03Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Gun to her head, she couldn’t name one member of Antifas. Antifas is the Weathermen of our time.

I think we’re seeing a right-wing echo chamber at work.

Fox News always has a boogey-man to keep their viewers enraged; MS-13, the New Black Panthers, or Antifa.

Trump watches Fox ranting about the dangers of “Antifa”. This gets his panties in a bunch, and he wants to hit back at the demands that he do something about domestic terrorism, so: he declares something called "antifa"a terrorist group…as if they’re an organization with chapters, and a board of directors, and regular meetings, when actually they’re a very loosely-knit set of common ideals. So (AIUI), this would be like declaring “women’s suffrage” a terrorist group.

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