# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35685 "2019-08-22T22:10:04Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> When I saw the [CNN](https://us.cnn.com/) headline “ **Something is eating at President Trump** ”, my first thought was some sort of parasitic wasp larvae or brain-eating amoeba, but it turns out it’s the possibility of a recession and ebbing poll numbers.

No reason it can’t be both.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35686 "2019-08-23T00:58:20Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> When I saw the [CNN](https://us.cnn.com/) headline “ **Something is eating at President Trump** ”, my first thought was some sort of parasitic wasp larvae or brain-eating amoeba, but it turns out it’s the possibility of a recession and ebbing poll numbers.

Poor Starving Amoebas…

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35687 "2019-08-23T02:30:46Z")

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[NYT: Trump’s New Press Secretary Has Two DUI Arrests and Lost Two Jobs For Plagiarism and Cheating on Expenses](https://www.mediaite.com/trump/nyt-trumps-new-press-secretary-has-two-dui-arrests-and-lost-two-jobs-for-cheating-on-expenses-and-plagiarism/)

This:

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> The Times’ Elizabeth Williamson reported Wednesday that Stephanie Grisham was arrested for driving under the influence in 2015, while she was working for Trump’s presidential campaign.
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> “In December 2015 in Arizona, Ms. Grisham was arrested for driving under the influence. She pleaded guilty and was fined, and in August 2016 the court ordered her into a treatment program. It was a second offense: In 2013 she was arrested for driving under the influence, speeding and driving with an invalid license.”

And this:

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> The article also details how she left a job at a AAA club “after accusations that she filed false claims for travel and other expenses. A spokeswoman for AAA Arizona declined to discuss personnel matters.”
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> Grisham also reportedly lost her job at an ad agency over accusations of plagiarism.

The best people.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35688 "2019-08-23T02:37:34Z")

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I would vote Obama “President For Life”. I hope President Buttigieg appoints him to the Supreme Court.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35689 "2019-08-23T04:00:38Z")

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The National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) is fundraising with [a t-shirt of a US map that includes Greenland](https://twitter.com/caseytolan/status/1164352917056323584): “Support President Trump and his efforts to help America grow!”

ETA: Meanwhile, the Nevada GOP is [running FB ads](https://twitter.com/caseytolan/status/1164355090590785536) urging Republicans to “show your support for making Greenland the 51st state” with another t-shirt.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35690 "2019-08-23T04:26:54Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> The National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) is fundraising with [a t-shirt of a US map that includes Greenland](https://twitter.com/caseytolan/status/1164352917056323584): “Support President Trump and his efforts to help America grow!”
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> ETA: Meanwhile, the Nevada GOP is [running FB ads](https://twitter.com/caseytolan/status/1164355090590785536) urging Republicans to “show your support for making Greenland the 51st state” with another t-shirt.

Am I crazy, or is this also giving off a distinct subtextual vibe of _“Fuck [Puerto Rico](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statehood_movement_in_Puerto_Rico)”_? (Note: the above two options are not mutually exclusive.)

Won’t they be surprised when they discover that over 80% of Greenlanders are non-white Greenlandic Inuit and the official language of Greenland is the Eskimo-Aleut language Greenlandic. In fact, I move that the response to nutty Republicans wearing “statehood for Greenland” T-shirts should be to question them closely on the specific details of the proposed annexation, using the appropriate terms in the local language. (For instance, the official name for Greenland in Greenlandic is Kalaallit Nunaat, and the Greenlandic government is the Naalakkersuisut.)

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**Author:** ![sps49sd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@sps49sd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sps49sd)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35691 "2019-08-23T04:33:54Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> For God’s sake anyone not talking about impeachment is as insane as our president obviously is.

That’s a very broad statement, but I will just reply with the obvious-  
Who wants President Pence?

Pence would very likely be better at getting things done than Trump. Do you want that?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35692 "2019-08-23T04:35:04Z")

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He wants Greenland because Ivanka just watched _Smilla’s Sense of Snow_ and she convinced him there are space aliens hiding in one of the inlets, and they will make him emperor of the world if he is the first to greet them.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35693 "2019-08-23T04:37:03Z")

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August 22, 2019  
The Justice Department’s Executive Office for Immigration Review sent an email to all immigration court employees with a link to a white nationalist website.

> **[The Justice Department Sent Immigration Judges A White Nationalist Blog Post...](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/justice-department-immigration-judges-white-nationalist)**
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> Immigration court employees were informed Friday that they would no longer receive daily news briefings after a BuzzFeed News report on its contents.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35694 "2019-08-23T04:39:25Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Am I crazy, or is this also giving off a distinct subtextual vibe of _“Fuck [Puerto Rico](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statehood_movement_in_Puerto_Rico)”_? (Note: the above two options are not mutually exclusive.)

Trump [reportedly joked](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-joked-about-trading-puerto-rico-greenland-puerto-ricans-are-n1045296) about trading Puerto Rico for Greenland.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35695 "2019-08-23T04:41:32Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> He wants Greenland because Ivanka just watched _Smilla’s Sense of Snow_ and she convinced him there are space aliens hiding in one of the inlets, and they will make him emperor of the world if he is the first to greet them.

Greenland is a big island. The _biggest_ island! Nobody’s ever seen islands like this. Obama never had an island this big.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35696 "2019-08-23T04:51:57Z")

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Quick, someone tell him Australia is bigger! (Sorry Australia)

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35697 "2019-08-23T05:26:45Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Trump [reportedly joked](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-joked-about-trading-puerto-rico-greenland-puerto-ricans-are-n1045296) about trading Puerto Rico for Greenland.

What a dick (if true). The US invaded and annexed Puerto Rico over a century ago in the Spanish-American War for its own purposes, since when Puerto Ricans disproportionately serve in the US military, have made major contributions to American arts, science, sports, journalism, etc. And this slobbering asshole just shits all over those 3+ million Americans by blithely suggesting that the rest of us will trade their home (and them?) for a comparatively uninhabited hunk of glacier. **What** a dick.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35698 "2019-08-23T05:56:40Z")

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Yeah, [the worst](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/justice-department-immigration-judges-white-nationalist), Barr none.  
_An email sent from the Justice Department to all immigration court employees this week included a link to an article posted on a white nationalist website that “directly attacks sitting immigration judges with racial and ethnically tinged slurs,” according to a letter sent by an immigration judges union and obtained by BuzzFeed News.  
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“The post features links and content that directly attacks sitting immigration judges with racial and ethnically tinged slurs and the label ‘Kritarch.’ The reference to Kritarch in a negative tone is deeply offensive and Anti-Semitic,” wrote (immigration judges’ union chief Ashley) Tabaddor. The VDare post includes pictures of judges with the term “kritarch” preceding their names. Tabaddor said the term kritarchy is a reference to ancient Israel during a time of rule by a system of judges._

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35699 "2019-08-23T06:36:21Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Trump [reportedly joked](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-joked-about-trading-puerto-rico-greenland-puerto-ricans-are-n1045296) about trading Puerto Rico for Greenland.

Look, in terms of Greenland - if any other president had said, if Obama had said, we’re looking strongly at Greenland, the response would have been tremendous. But the media that we have today is very unfair and fake, instead of saying, sir, you deserve a Nobel Peace Prize for how great you’re making our country - instead they’re saying we don’t support Donald Trump, we support open borders and socialism, and it’s very sad how nasty they’ve become.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35700 "2019-08-23T06:51:01Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Greenland is a big island. The _biggest_ island! Nobody’s ever seen islands like this. Obama never had an island this big.

“It’s over One Thousand thyms the Size of Oahu. President Barack Osama never had an island the Size of Greenland. Greenland was ALREADY bigger than oahu wHen Cheatin’ Obama was born in Honolulu. Oops.”

_Aside: WTF? This toddler pretending to represent and lead the United States of America has given occasion to Wikipedia [to have a page of nicknames he uses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump#Domestic_political_figures). There’s also one from President Bush, but it’s nowhere as nasty as Trump’s penchant._

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35701 "2019-08-23T07:09:42Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> “It’s over One Thousand thyms the Size of Oahu. President Barack Osama never had an island the Size of Greenland. Greenland was ALREADY bigger than oahu wHen Cheatin’ Obama was born in Honolulu. Oops.”
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> _Aside: WTF? This toddler pretending to represent and lead the United States of America has given occasion to Wikipedia [to have a page of nicknames he uses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump#Domestic_political_figures). There’s also one from President Bush, but it’s nowhere as nasty as Trump’s penchant._

I thought you were referring to [this page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonyms_of_Donald_Trump) - it’s the Wikipedia article about the different names (and yes, there are several) that Trump has used when he’s pretending to be somebody else.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35702 "2019-08-23T08:41:55Z")

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> [@sps49sd](#):
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> That’s a very broad statement, but I will just reply with the obvious-  
> Who wants President Pence?
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> Pence would very likely be better at getting things done than Trump. Do you want that?

Pence would be awful, but one could expect him to be awful on at least something of a normal scale. He wouldn’t be pissing off our allies because they won’t sell him land that isn’t theirs to sell. Yeah, he’d be awful, but he’d be awful without normal parameters, whatever the fuck that means any more.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35703 "2019-08-23T09:00:04Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Pence would be awful, but one could expect him to be awful on at least something of a normal scale. He wouldn’t be pissing off our allies because they won’t sell him land that isn’t theirs to sell. Yeah, he’d be awful, but he’d be awful without normal parameters, whatever the fuck that means any more.

I think you mean he’d be awful **within** normal parameters.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35704 "2019-08-23T10:51:01Z")

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I have to admit some bemusement at the implied doublethink going on - the only reason Greenland looks interesting is what might happen to it (and the Arctic generally) after a few more decades of global warming, something Trump claims and his supporters supposedly accept is a hoax.

Could it be that… gasp!.. _logic no longer matters?_

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