# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1788
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35745 "2019-08-23T18:00:09Z")
Trump is also asking his aides why does he have to go to the G-7 meeting. Apparently, Trump thinks “it’s not a good use of his time”. Yes, the American President should concentrate on the important stuff like watching cable TV, tweeting, playing golf, and publically ranting about his “enemies” and the unfairness of his treatment by the whole world (excepting some sycophants, Kim, and Putin). ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35746 "2019-08-23T18:18:37Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Darth Shit-for-Brains > > No, I swear, I am _not_ making this up! Even for something as well-covered at this, you ought to provide a cite: > ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35747 "2019-08-23T18:28:08Z")
Wow, the whole thing is even more cray than the money quote. We’re breaking up with China then? And, UPS was just blithely shipping fentanyl out of China until Trump wisely ordered them to start looking for it and cut it out? Wtf? Oh, and the Fed chief is America’s enemy, along with the president of China. Way to go, champ. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35748 "2019-08-23T18:34:53Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Oh, and the Fed chief is America’s enemy, along with the president of China. Way to go, champ. So, if the Fed chief was appointed by Trump himself and he’s an enemy of America, does that make Trump guilty of treason? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35749 "2019-08-23T18:35:16Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > A call for autarky. Now who does that remind me of? You mean _juche_? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35750 "2019-08-23T18:38:48Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > So, if the Fed chief was appointed by Trump himself and he’s an enemy of America, does that make Trump guilty of treason? It makes him guilty, at least, of being a fucking moron, but where it gets tricky is that that is also the thing that endears him to Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35751 "2019-08-23T18:44:03Z")
Appointing an enemy to chair the Fed sounds like “aid and comfort” to me. Destroying our ag markets and handing them to Russia does, too. Also, systematically destroying our alliances. I’ll settle for the 25th though. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35752 "2019-08-23T18:47:14Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Setting aside the laughable (if it wasn’t so horrifying) nature of “hereby ordered”…does he have any idea how large a task it would be for American industry to “find an alternative” to China? A massive pivot in infrastructure not seen since Pearl Harbor. And the cost to the American consumer would be staggering. What’s ironic is that Trump has treated his other allies and trading partners like shit since he was elected. I know that Canadian companies have been making serious moves for the past 18 months to find alternatives to trade with the USA. New supply chains, trade agreements with other countries, etc. The US has shown that it cannot be trusted, so other trading partners need to be developed. Nobody even needed to order them to do it! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35753 "2019-08-23T18:48:50Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Trump is also asking his aides why does he have to go to the G-7 meeting. Apparently, Trump thinks “it’s not a good use of his time”. > > Yes, the American President should concentrate on the important stuff like watching cable TV, tweeting, playing golf, and publically ranting about his “enemies” and the unfairness of his treatment by the whole world (excepting some sycophants, Kim, and Putin). I’m pretty sure the rest of the G-7 would be thrilled if the Cheeto-faced douchnozzle does not come to the meeting. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35754 "2019-08-23T18:50:50Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Wow, the whole thing is even more cray than the money quote. We’re breaking up with China then? And, UPS was just blithely shipping fentanyl out of China until Trump wisely ordered them to start looking for it and cut it out? Wtf? > > Oh, and the Fed chief is America’s enemy, along with the president of China. Way to go, champ. Exactly. \ “Oh wow, maybe we should inspect packages coming from China for fentanyl. Who knew? Thank you for telling us, oh Chosen One” ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35755 "2019-08-23T19:32:42Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > So, if the Fed chief was appointed by Trump himself and he’s an enemy of America, does that make Trump guilty of treason? It amazes me me how many Trump appointees are, according to Trump, terrible people! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35756 "2019-08-23T19:33:29Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > To the tune of Yakety-Sax. _La gazza ladra_ would work well also. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35757 "2019-08-23T19:40:29Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Darth Shit-for-Brains > > No, I swear, I am _not_ making this up! So much for big gubbermint staying out of bizniz things 'n stuff. I am starting to believe he really wants to tank the economy… so long as he thinks he can blame someone else for his shit. Why? Because Putin would LOVE it, and by now we all should know Trump is Putin’s bitch. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35758 "2019-08-23T19:44:07Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Private American companies are “hereby ordered” to do something by the American president? > > If there was ever any doubt that Mr. Trump thinks that he is a dictator, this ought to dispel that doubt. For fucking REAL. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35759 "2019-08-23T19:49:56Z")
[Stocks tumble as Trump urges US companies out of China](https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/stocks-tumble-as-trump-urges-us-companies-out-of-china/ar-AAGaqiF?li=BBnbfcN) Trump should keep his mouth shut. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35760 "2019-08-23T19:52:18Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Private American companies are “hereby ordered” to do something by the American president? > > If there was ever any doubt that Mr. Trump thinks that he is a dictator, this ought to dispel that doubt. “Oh, that was just a joke.” “He was just encouraging businesses to seek other options.” “Liberals are so uptight. Can’t make a joke.” :rolleyes: This is the stuff they’ll say, or anything else to try to excuse it. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35761 "2019-08-23T20:01:14Z")
> [@](#): > > “They sound like the ravings of a pretty pathological guy,” Bernstein said of Trump’s assertions. “The pace at which the crazy is coming seems to really be increasing.” That’s Jared Bernstein, speaking not in response to the above, butb to what Trump was saying last week: > [@](#): > > Even as signs of an economic slowdown due to his trade war mount, President Donald Trump has a new message for Americans: If you don’t reelect me, you and the whole country will go broke. > > “If we don’t win in 2020, everything that we have done – seriously, though ― everything that we have done, your 401(k)s, they are going to crash. The whole thing, it’s going to come down like a stack of cards,” Trump told a North Carolina rally audience last month. > > In New Hampshire last week, he went even further: “You have no choice but to vote for me because your 401(k)s? Down the tubes. Everything is going to be down the tubes.” > > While presidents have typically spun their economic stories in the best possible light and presidential hopefuls have long promised big improvements if they win, Trump appears to the first president or candidate in modern times to claim that the nation will fall into depression should he not win. > … > > Jared Bernstein, who advised Barack Obama in that election and became then-Vice President Joe Biden’s top economic adviser afterward, said that even with an actual financial crisis looming, neither candidate in 2008 claimed the other would crash the economy. > **[Trump’s New Economic Message: Reelect Him Or It All Goes ‘Down The Tubes’](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-economy-crash-message_n_5d601ef2e4b0dfcbd48cea0d)** > > A fascism expert points out this was also a message used by former dictator Benito Mussolini. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35762 "2019-08-23T20:22:34Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > “Oh, that was just a joke.” “He was just encouraging businesses to seek other options.” “Liberals are so uptight. Can’t make a joke.” :rolleyes: > > This is the stuff they’ll say, or anything else to try to excuse it. It was such a funny joke, it tanked the DOW by 500 points. What a comedian that Trump is! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35763 "2019-08-23T20:28:58Z")
> [@](#): > > The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 623 points… [https://www.axios.com/stocks-plunge-trump-trade-tweet-90a04a0b-0659-4444-aab9-9f7b84530d35.html](https://www.axios.com/stocks-plunge-trump-trade-tweet-90a04a0b-0659-4444-aab9-9f7b84530d35.html) ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35764 "2019-08-23T20:40:20Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > That’s Jared Bernstein, speaking not in response to the above, butb to what Trump was saying last week: > > [Trump’s New Economic Message: Reelect Him Or It All Goes ‘Down The Tubes’ | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-economy-crash-message_n_5d601ef2e4b0dfcbd48cea0d) Wotta maroon! I wish that they would go ahead and remove this clown already, due to his amazing lack of mental health. Idiot! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1787) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1789)