# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1794
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35865 "2019-08-25T21:46:40Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It doesn’t really matter. Look at infrastructure development; that was one of Trump’s key issues when he was running and it’s a good idea. > > But what’s happened since he got elected? Virtually nothing. Trump screws it up even when he has a good idea. Someone needs to convince him he owns road and bridge repair companies or something. Con him into believing he’s making money from all the infrastructure repairs and money for them will magically increase. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35866 "2019-08-25T22:26:27Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 with President Macron, and as Macron is speaking, Individual 1 is just aimlessly looking around as if he’s bored. “Bored” is his default setting whenever he’s not the center of attention. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35867 "2019-08-25T23:25:28Z")
Donald Trump suggested nuking hurricanes to stop them from hitting U.S… > **[Trump suggested dropping nuclear bombs into hurricanes to stop them from...](https://www.axios.com/2019/08/25/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic)** > > "People were astonished. After the meeting ended, we thought, 'What the f---? What do we do with this?'" ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35868 "2019-08-25T23:34:18Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Donald Trump suggested nuking hurricanes to stop them from hitting U.S.. He’s only planning on nuking a few. The rest will get the message. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35869 "2019-08-26T00:14:42Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The second is of Indivdual 1 standing next to Melania, and as Angela Merkel approaches, he sticks out her hand and she ignores him and takes Melania’s hand and talks to her. If it is the same story, it was the Polish First Lady, not Merkel, who snubbed Trump. I’m pretty sure the only head of state who would do something that petty is Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35870 "2019-08-26T00:20:57Z")
Oh my God! Trump is a Doper!!! [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=794771](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=794771) Those spoilsports at NOAA have a page up saying this wouldn’t work, but that’s just liberal scientific bias. [TCFAQ C5c) Why don't we try to destroy tropical cyclones by nuking](https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5c.html) ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35871 "2019-08-26T01:03:00Z")
I agree. I don’t trump to die. I want him to be the first incumbent to get a Goldwater/McGovern class drubbing at the polls. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35872 "2019-08-26T03:19:22Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Oh my God! Trump is a Doper!!! > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=794771](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=794771) I think you inadvertently put an extra “r” at the end of the second sentence. And you just know that Trump is never going to consider his Presidency complete unless he gets to order a nuclear detonation somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35873 "2019-08-26T03:30:14Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Oh my God! Trump is a Doper!!! > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=794771](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=794771) > > Those spoilsports at NOAA have a page up saying this wouldn’t work, but that’s just liberal scientific bias. [https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5c.html](https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5c.html) Don’t worry, in a couple of days, Wilbur Ross will inform them that they need to reach a more Trump friendly conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35874 "2019-08-26T03:42:43Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > And you just know that Trump is never going to consider his Presidency complete unless he gets to order a nuclear detonation somewhere. Late 2019: Believing himself now to be an ever-living and indestructible God-King, Trump decides to silence the “Cadet Bone Spurs” hecklers in the peanut gallery once and for all, by leading the invasion of Greenland himself, right [from the very front](http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/5eM4x8fxZNzPO/giphy.gif). ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35875 "2019-08-26T03:55:39Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Donald Trump suggested nuking hurricanes to stop them from hitting U.S.. > > [https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8c9cf0e3f51c.html?utm\_source=twitter&utm\_medium=social&utm\_campaign=organic](https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8c9cf0e3f51c.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic) \ ***White House response** : A senior administration official said, “We don’t comment on private discussions that the president may or may not have had with his national security team.” **A different senior administration official** , who has been briefed on the president’s hurricane bombing suggestion, defended Trump’s idea and said it was no cause for alarm. “His goal — to keep a catastrophic hurricane from hitting the mainland — is not bad,” the official said. “His objective is not bad.” “What people near the president do is they say ‘I love a president who asks questions like that, who’s willing to ask tough questions.’ … It takes strong people to respond to him in the right way when stuff like this comes up. For me, alarm bells weren’t going off when I heard about it, but I did think somebody is going to use this to feed into ‘the president is crazy’ narrative.” \* Fuck. These people, I swear. Fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35876 "2019-08-26T03:58:52Z")
“Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you’re a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.” ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35877 "2019-08-26T04:28:44Z")
Before anyone gushes about how Smapti has once again channeled Trump brilliantly, this is actually a copy-and-paste quote, God have mercy on us all. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35878 "2019-08-26T04:35:58Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Before anyone gushes about how Smapti has once again channeled Trump brilliantly, this is actually a copy-and-paste quote, God have mercy on us all. :eek: I was surprised he didn’t mention ol’ daddy comin’ from Deutschland and how you can tell that’s why he knows so much about science, especially nuclear science. ETA [this link to Snopes](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-sentence/). Yep, folks; it’s true. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35879 "2019-08-26T04:36:41Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Before anyone gushes about how Smapti has once again channeled Trump brilliantly, this is actually a copy-and-paste quote, God have mercy on us all. Had to check that. Wow :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35880 "2019-08-26T05:07:08Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > \ ***White House response** : A senior administration official said, “We don’t comment on private discussions that the president may or may not have had with his national security team.” > > **A different senior administration official** , who has been briefed on the president’s hurricane bombing suggestion, defended Trump’s idea and said it was no cause for alarm. “His goal — to keep a catastrophic hurricane from hitting the mainland — is not bad,” the official said. “His objective is not bad.” > “What people near the president do is they say ‘I love a president who asks questions like that, who’s willing to ask tough questions.’ … It takes strong people to respond to him in the right way when stuff like this comes up. For me, alarm bells weren’t going off when I heard about it, but I did think somebody is going to use this to feed into ‘the president is crazy’ narrative.” > \* > > Fuck. > > These people, I swear. > > Fuck. We are living in a world created by Jonaton Swift. I thougt that link was a joke at first. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35881 "2019-08-26T05:15:37Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Before anyone gushes about how Smapti has once again channeled Trump brilliantly, this is actually a copy-and-paste quote, God have mercy on us all. Oh wow. I just ASSumed it was Smapti. When you ASSume Trump is an idiot, you are right. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35882 "2019-08-26T05:32:07Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Before anyone gushes about how Smapti has once again channeled Trump brilliantly, this is actually a copy-and-paste quote, God have mercy on us all. I suppose it’s a tribute to the quality of my Trumpression that an actual quote from him, presented by me, requires a disclaimer. 😃 > [@Snopes](#): > > The one thing that puzzles us the most about this sprawling statement is this: Donald Trump’s late uncle, Dr. John Trump, was indeed a renowned professor at MIT, and among his many notable contributions to science were developing methods for treating cancer through radiation and studying how to radiate deep tumors without harming nearby healthy tissue. But what did he reveal to his nephew about “nuclear” 35 years ago that it would have been surprising for anyone to think of? > > “My uncle used to tell me about nuclear before nuclear was nuclear” and “He would tell me, ‘There are things that are happening that could be potentially so bad for the world in terms of weaponry,'” Donald Trump has claimed, even though the U.S. had already developed and used nuclear weapons before he was born (1946). Could anyone have really been unaware or doubtful that “nuclear is powerful” in the 1980s, when Dr. Trump supposedly informed his nephew of that fact? ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35883 "2019-08-26T05:51:28Z")
I think I see a pattern here. Trump wants to buy Greenland. Truman explored the idea. Trump wants to bomb hurricanes. It was an idea in the 50’s. He has been watching the History Channel. [https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2016/11/hurricanes-weather-history-nuclear-weapons/](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2016/11/hurricanes-weather-history-nuclear-weapons/) ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/35884 "2019-08-26T06:08:36Z")
This is an article from the WP talking about the G7 summit. I suppose it’s behind a paywall but I’ll quote the part that caught my eye. > **[Mixed signals, reversals cloud second day of G-7 summit](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-for-first-time-signals-regret-china-trade-war-has-escalated/2019/08/25/c942ea78-c67a-11e9-b5e4-54aa56d5b7ce_story.html)** > > In just one of the day’s confounding moments, President Trump expressed regret over the spiraling trade spat with China before the White House said he really wished he raised tariffs higher. > [@](#): > > Even the positive news Trump tried to roll out had some confusing elements. Trump told reporters that he had reached a trade deal with Japan that would be signed as soon as next month, but Abe said more work remained. Still, the announcement drew cheers from U.S. farm groups, who believed Trump had opened up access to a big Asian market. So farmers are all back to thinking that a deal that has apparently not been finalized between Individual 1 and Abe is going to save them? Apparently Abe had to clarify that it would be Japan’s business sector buying American crops after Individual 1 made it sound as though Japan was going to buy all of our corn directly. [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g7-summit-trump-abe-trade/trump-abe-say-u-s-and-japan-have-agreed-in-principle-on-trade-deal-idUSKCN1VF0CU](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g7-summit-trump-abe-trade/trump-abe-say-u-s-and-japan-have-agreed-in-principle-on-trade-deal-idUSKCN1VF0CU) > [@](#): > > “The Japanese private sector listens to the Japanese public sector very strongly… It’s a little different than it is in our country perhaps,” Trump said. > [@](#): > > “It’s a very big transaction, and we’ve agreed in principle. It’s billions and billions of dollars. Tremendous for the farmers,” Trump told reporters about the deal during a joint announcement with Abe at the G7 meeting in France. Of course he wants this to prop himself up for 2020. Anyone have any idea, if the deal is finalized in September, how much it will help American farmers with their surplus corn? Has the Chosen One actually “opened up access to a big Asian market”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1793) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1795)