# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36065 "2019-08-31T12:37:45Z")

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That’s because Republicans say they have “values” and they say they have “beliefs”. And as old as this comparison gets with the current unfit clown holding the office, can you just imagine if Obama had done it?

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36066 "2019-08-31T14:06:07Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> Now Trump takes pics of the screen like a kid in a freshman Biology lecture, and shares them with the world from his fucking toilet.

The Golden Throne…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36067 "2019-08-31T14:22:18Z")

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“Hey, dumb ass Iran! Look in the upper right corner, your proton stabilizing module is set to 43%! Set it to 61% would add 105 kilometers to effective range and 253 kilos to the payload! SAD!”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36068 "2019-08-31T14:44:27Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> And when he says has the absolute right to do something, you know he did something wrong.

Treason is OK if a Republican does it.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36069 "2019-08-31T15:45:48Z")

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Looks like Trump deliberately manipulated the stock market by falsely claiming he spoke with Chinese officials about a possible end to the trade war.

[https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-lied-about-trade-war-to-boost-markets-cnn-may-fall-on-deaf-ears-2019-8-1028489021](https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-lied-about-trade-war-to-boost-markets-cnn-may-fall-on-deaf-ears-2019-8-1028489021)

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> Global stocks instantly reversed what looked to be another day of heavy losses, following the Dow’s 600 point drop on the previous Friday. His comments soothed anxious investors.  
> But China said that those talks never actually happened. And CNN reported that: “Instead, two officials said Trump was eager to project optimism that might boost markets and conflated comments from China’s vice premier with direct communication from the Chinese.”

I’m going to put myself out there and call for a recession starting in late Q3. It’ll probably be a major company that misses earnings targets, a municipal bankruptcy at home, or perhaps a financial failure abroad that triggers a contagion. Industrial output is already slowing worldwide, and that will start to be reflected in the numbers. Furthermore, it will push energy prices down, which is going to limit any kind of real recovery in that sector. We may not see a true contraction until Q4, but the beginnings of the downward spiral will probably start this fall. I’d say we’re well north of 50% in terms of its probability.

The bigger question will be how Trump responds, and this is where we could go from recession to financial catastrophe. Save your money, folks. Storm clouds are gathering on the horizon.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36070 "2019-08-31T16:03:29Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> Trump has already addressed this issue by saying “I released it which I have the absolute right to do”. And when he says has the absolute right to do something, you know he did something wrong.

For what it’s worth, he’s probably correct. (I won’t say what he did was right.) The President does have the authority to override security classifications and release secret information.

That said, it’s like a pardon or a veto; just because the President has a tool doesn’t mean he uses it wisely. The problem with these presidential powers isn’t that they exist. It’s that Donald Trump is the one wielding them.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36071 "2019-08-31T16:05:20Z")

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If the Trump administration hasn’t yet laid bare the fact that the entire platform of the Republican party is bullshit, and has been for quite some time, then it never will. Everything they have claimed that they were about since I was a kid was nonsense. Free trade. Family values. Safety. Meritocracy. Personal responsibility. Lower deficits. Being the adult in the room. All of it was bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36072 "2019-08-31T16:14:12Z")

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[Dolt45 at the African American History Museum](https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/museums/what-happened-when-trump-visited-the-african-american-history-museum-according-to-its-former-director/2019/08/30/5471494e-cb5a-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html):

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> In his upcoming memoir, newly appointed Smithsonian Secretary Lonnie G. Bunch III describes the private tour he gave President Trump of the National Museum of African American History and Culture, recalling that Trump’s reaction to the Dutch role in the global slave trade was, “You know, they love me in the Netherlands.”…

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36073 "2019-08-31T19:43:04Z")

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Short-fingered vulgarian cancelled his trip to Poland — to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the beginning of the Second World War, and weirdly enough the Poles were LOOKING FORWARD TO HIS VISIT — in order to keep close tabs on the progress of Hurricane Dorian towards the United States.

So today, he went to one of his properties to play golf.

> **[Trump meets with FEMA officials at Camp David to prepare for Hurricane Dorian](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-meets-with-fema-officials-at-camp-david-to-prepare-for-hurricane-dorian-2019-08-31/)**
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> President canceled a visit to Poland over the weekend to monitor Hurricane Dorian as it approaches Florida

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36074 "2019-08-31T19:44:30Z")

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Well, that’s because — thanks to his incredible monitoring skills — Dorian’s now on track to hit the Carolinas.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36075 "2019-08-31T20:06:38Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Short-fingered vulgarian cancelled his trip to Poland — to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the beginning of the Second World War, and weirdly enough the Poles were LOOKING FORWARD TO HIS VISIT — in order to keep close tabs on the progress of Hurricane Dorian towards the United States.
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> So today, he went to one of his properties to play golf.
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> [Trump meets with FEMA officials at Camp David to prepare for Hurricane Dorian - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-donald-trump-golfs-today-as-east-coast-braces-for-catastrophic-hurricane-dorian-2019-08-31/)

He only went golfing because he doesn’t play the fiddle.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36076 "2019-08-31T20:30:10Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> He only went golfing because he doesn’t play the fiddle.

But, Trump does get played like a fiddle–by Putin, Kim, MBS…

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36077 "2019-08-31T20:42:17Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> “Hey, dumb ass Iran! Look in the upper right corner, your proton stabilizing module is set to 43%! Set it to 61% would add 105 kilometers to effective range and 253 kilos to the payload! SAD!”

Obvious fake. Like Two-Scoops would EVER use the metric system.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36078 "2019-08-31T21:17:18Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Tiffany doesn’t fall far from the Orange Cheeto. Here she is bragging about the portrait made of her out of Swarovsky crystals.  
> [Tiffany Trump shows off her Swarovski crystal portrait](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/tiffany-trump-swarovski-crystal-portrait-191416428.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw)

Not on black velvet? That’s disappointing.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36079 "2019-08-31T21:23:10Z")

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Of course, after that I had to look around. There are several with trump as a clown, but [The Velveteria](https://www.retroroadmap.com/spot/velveteria-the-worlds-only-velvet-art-museum-los-angeles/) has one that’s apparently a sincere tribute. (Sixth picture.}

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36080 "2019-08-31T22:44:01Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> Trump has already addressed this issue by saying “I released it which I have the absolute right to do”. And when he says has the absolute right to do something, you know he did something wrong.  
> [https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/08/30/trump-iran-missile-explosion-photo-tweet-sot-vpx.cnn](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/08/30/trump-iran-missile-explosion-photo-tweet-sot-vpx.cnn)

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And the very same people who condemned Obama for tyranny whenever he issued an executive order just lap it up from this guy.

> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> If the Trump administration hasn’t yet laid bare the fact that the entire platform of the Republican party is bullshit, and has been for quite some time, then it never will. **Everything they have claimed that they were about since I was a kid was nonsense. Free trade. Family values. Safety. Meritocracy. Personal responsibility. Lower deficits. Being the adult in the room. All of it was bullshit.**

There really is not one particle of doubt, anymore. Anyone who supports Trump has earned the right to be laughed into silence at their every claim of virtue and their every criticism of Obama (and other Democrats).

Imagine that: at every campaign event; at every interview, Republicans uttering claims and criticisms being drowned out by laughter. No Republican being able to get out more than a few words before gales of laughter force them to skulk back to their lairs.

I have a dream, this afternoon. That all Americans might rise up in healthy, vigorous, irrepressible laughter. That Republicans might be forced back into the shadows, unable to be heard above the rising tide of raucous glee. That justice might be done.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36081 "2019-08-31T22:57:30Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I have a dream, this afternoon. That all Americans might rise up in healthy, vigorous, irrepressible laughter. That Republicans might be forced back into the shadows, unable to be heard above the rising tide of raucous glee. That justice might be done.

Well done, I heard that in MLK’s voice!

I’m on board with this idea. It’s non-violent, and hard to fight against. And what a great tool against tyrants!

I can see our grandkids’ history books now… “There was Ghandi’s hunger strike, the Selma sit-ins, and the Great Laugh-In of 2019!”

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36082 "2019-08-31T23:20:48Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Well done, I heard that in MLK’s voice!
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> I’m on board with this idea. It’s non-violent, and hard to fight against. And what a great tool against tyrants!
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> I can see our grandkids’ history books now… “There was Ghandi’s hunger strike, the Selma sit-ins, and the Great Laugh-In of 2019!”

It could work! Though if we call it the Great Laugh-In, we might have to pay NBC for the rights. (Or, per wikipedia, George Schlatter Productions.) [Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowan_%26_Martin%27s_Laugh-In)

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36083 "2019-08-31T23:21:36Z")

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It worked well in Portland a couple of weeks ago.

ETA: I was particularly charmed by the Banana Brigade. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36084 "2019-09-01T05:57:16Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> Of course, after that I had to look around. There are several with trump as a clown, but [The Velveteria](https://www.retroroadmap.com/spot/velveteria-the-worlds-only-velvet-art-museum-los-angeles/) has one that’s apparently a sincere tribute. (Sixth picture.}

Kindly warn us innocents next time! The Trump, I was already expecting, but OMG that horse in the next pic… my eyes!

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