# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36085 "2019-09-01T21:32:58Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> Of course, after that I had to look around. There are several with trump as a clown, but [The Velveteria](https://www.retroroadmap.com/spot/velveteria-the-worlds-only-velvet-art-museum-los-angeles/) has one that’s apparently a sincere tribute. (Sixth picture.}

Damn, I read that wrong. I thought it said “Velveeteria”. I was hoping for some cheesy shit.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36086 "2019-09-02T00:22:33Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Damn, I read that wrong. I thought it said “Velveeteria”. I was hoping for some cheesy shit.

ogod, the thought of a trump sculpture in processed cheese product. You could do a nice rendition of the hair with cheese-in-a-can.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36087 "2019-09-02T03:21:43Z")

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Individual 1 has Alabamians panicked because he told them to get ready for Hurricane Dorian to hit.

> **[National Weather Service appears to correct Trump on Hurricane Dorian hitting...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/01/nws-appears-correct-trump-hurricane-dorians-path-alabama/2187382001/)**
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> "Alabama will NOT see any impacts from #Dorian.," wrote the NWS. "We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane #Dorian will be felt across Alabama."

He also said this is the first Catyegory 5 hurricane he’s ever heard of. There have been four of them in his term in office alone.

> **[Trump: 'I'm not sure that I've ever heard of a Category 5' hurricane. There...](https://triblive.com/news/politics-election/trump-im-not-sure-that-ive-ever-heard-of-a-category-5-hurricane-theres-been-4-during-his-presidency/)**
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> During a Federal Emergency Management Agency briefing Sunday about Hurricane Dorian, President Trump expressed disbelief that a Category 5 storm was possible. “I’ve seen some Category 4s, you don’t even see that many of them. But a Category 5 is...

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36088 "2019-09-02T03:39:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 has Alabamians panicked because he told them to get ready for Hurricane Dorian to hit.  
> [NWS appears to correct Trump about Hurricane Dorian's path, Alabama](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/01/nws-appears-correct-trump-hurricane-dorians-path-alabama/2187382001/)

I’d be surprised if he could point to Alabama on an unlabeled U.S. map.

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> He also said this is the first Catyegory 5 hurricane he’s ever heard of. There have been four of them in his term in office alone.  
> [Trump: 'I'm not sure that I've ever heard of a Category 5' hurricane. There have been 4 during his presidency](https://triblive.com/news/politics-election/trump-im-not-sure-that-ive-ever-heard-of-a-category-5-hurricane-theres-been-4-during-his-presidency/)

Well, obviously, he never heard of a Category 5 so they did not exist before. Anyone saying there were Cat 5s before he discovered them today is just spreading fake news.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36089 "2019-09-02T04:01:51Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> I’d be surprised if he could point to Alabama on an unlabeled U.S. map.

I would be surprised if he could point to a map.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36090 "2019-09-02T04:04:56Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 has Alabamians panicked because he told them to get ready for Hurricane Dorian to hit.  
> [NWS appears to correct Trump about Hurricane Dorian's path, Alabama](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/01/nws-appears-correct-trump-hurricane-dorians-path-alabama/2187382001/)

It occurs to me if someone is so freaking stupid they have to wait for Tan the Conman to alert them to an actual emergency…well, [this should be their motto and/or last words](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD1JSFb5Atc&pbjreload=10).

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> He also said this is the first Catyegory 5 hurricane he’s ever heard of. There have been four of them in his term in office alone.  
> [Trump: 'I'm not sure that I've ever heard of a Category 5' hurricane. There have been 4 during his presidency](https://triblive.com/news/politics-election/trump-im-not-sure-that-ive-ever-heard-of-a-category-5-hurricane-theres-been-4-during-his-presidency/)

What makes you think he was listening those other times? After all, it wasn’t affecting him personally or financially.

> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> I’d be surprised if he could point to Alabama on an unlabeled U.S. map.

I’d be surprised if he could point to Alabama on a labeled U.S. map.

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> Well, obviously, he never heard of a Category 5 so they did not exist before. Anyone saying there were Cat 5s before he discovered them today is just spreading fake news.

Hah!

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36091 "2019-09-02T04:20:13Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> IWell, obviously, he never heard of a Category 5 so they did not exist before. Anyone saying there were Cat 5s before he discovered them today is just spreading fake news.

You’re pretty much right. From this article:

[Trump doesn’t think he’s ‘ever even heard of a Category 5’ hurricane. Four such storms have threatened the US since he took office](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/01/politics/donald-trump-category-5-hurricane-dorian/index.html)

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> **Not the first time Trump said he’s never heard of a Category 5**
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> _Trump has previously indicated several other times that Category 5 hurricanes are unprecedented weather events that either he or others had never heard of or witnessed._
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> In the days between the landfalls of Hurricane Irma and Maria, he said he “never even knew” they existed and said days later that “people (in Puerto Rico) had never seen anything like” the storm.
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> In October 2017, Trump claimed _“nobody has ever heard of a (Category) 5 hitting land,”_ and earlier this year, he again said he had never heard of a hurricane of that intensity.

[my emphasis]

Yep. Nobody has ever heard of a Category 5 hitting land before because, obviously, it’s never happened until now.

Did you guys also know that Lincoln was a Republican, Fred Douglass has been doing some great things, and big water is wet?

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36092 "2019-09-02T04:26:41Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Before anyone gushes about how Smapti has once again channeled Trump brilliantly, this is actually a copy-and-paste quote, God have mercy on us all.

Now Jim Wright (Stonekettle) is joining the fray…

> [@Jim Wright](#):
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> Guy came up to me. Big guy. Very powerful, with the muscles, very big. Tears running down his face. He said, Sir, thanks to you we now have Category 5! Category 5, Folks. Category 5. Never heard of it before. Tremendously powerful. Very wet. Massively wet water, so wet from this standpoint of the water. Water has never been this wet before. They’ve never seen it. The winds are tremendous. No one has ever seen winds this tremendous. So tremendous. Very powerful. Category 5 folks, I told them they might even have to do a 6. If Crooked Hillary had won we would only have Category 4s. Trump? Category 5. Very powerful. And wet. Very wide. If Democrats win in 2020, Category 4, folks. Category 3. Low energy. With Trump we are winning again with the hurricanes. Thank you, Trump!  
> – Donald J. Trump, probably.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36093 "2019-09-02T04:30:15Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Now Jim Wright (Stonekettle) is joining the fray…

He does this from time to time. I think it relieves a bit of tension from all the idiots who tweet at him or email him or the like.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36094 "2019-09-02T06:34:25Z")

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“[_you’re a fucking liar_](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2019/8/26/1881485/-PBS-reporter-calls-Trump-a-liar-to-his-face)”:

**Individual-1** (invasion of Crimea): _President Obama was not happy that this happened because it was embarrassing to him, and he wanted Russia to be out of what was called the G8. He was outsmarted by Putin, he was outsmarted. President Putin outsmarted President Obama._

PBS reporter **Yamiche Alcindor** : _Why do you [keep repeating] the misleading statement that Russia outsmarted President Obama when other countries have said that the reason why Russia was kicked out was very clearly because they annexed Crimea. Why keep repeating what some people would see as a clear lie?_

Prepare to hear shrill cries to defund PBS.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36095 "2019-09-02T07:28:05Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> “[_you’re a fucking liar_](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2019/8/26/1881485/-PBS-reporter-calls-Trump-a-liar-to-his-face)”:
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> **Individual-1** (invasion of Crimea): _President Obama was not happy that this happened because it was embarrassing to him, and he wanted Russia to be out of what was called the G8. He was outsmarted by Putin, he was outsmarted. President Putin outsmarted President Obama._
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> PBS reporter **Yamiche Alcindor** : _Why do you [keep repeating] the misleading statement that Russia outsmarted President Obama when other countries have said that the reason why Russia was kicked out was very clearly because they annexed Crimea. Why keep repeating what some people would see as a clear lie?_
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> Prepare to hear shrill cries to defund PBS.

“Such a nasty woman.”

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36096 "2019-09-02T12:36:02Z")

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“A Category 5 has never happened before, never heard of one. EVEN MY DISASTORS ARE THE BIGGEST”

Yup.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36097 "2019-09-02T13:42:02Z")

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It must be wonderful to be free of both self-awareness and shame. If I had made a fool of myself in public like Trump has so many times, I would crawl under my duvet and never come out again.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36098 "2019-09-02T13:56:01Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> It must be wonderful to be free of both self-awareness and shame. If I had made a fool of myself in public like Trump has so many times, I would crawl under my duvet and never come out again.

But, the scary thing is that in Trump’s mind he’s the smartest, most competent, most successful person in the history of the planet.

Unfortunately, his narcissism, ignorance, and increasing dementia is going to have lasting detrimental global effects, both geopolitically and environmentally.

An interesting question is how much of his bullshit does he actually believe and how much is feral conman cunning to manipulate his base for reelection? Which he may realize on some level is the only thing that may keep him out of prison once he’s out of office.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36099 "2019-09-02T14:02:22Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> “A Category 5 has never happened before, never heard of one. EVEN MY DISASTORS ARE THE BIGGEST”
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> Yup.

It’s the fourth Cat-5 hurricane since he’s been elected, and he’s said the same thing every time.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36100 "2019-09-02T14:16:21Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> It’s the fourth Cat-5 hurricane since he’s been elected, and he’s said the same thing every time.

Attention span of a goldfish.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36101 "2019-09-02T14:28:29Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> It’s the fourth Cat-5 hurricane since he’s been elected, and he’s said the same thing every time.

Well, to steal from and paraphrase some pundit I saw/ read somewhere recently (and I should try to find the cite to give due credit):

Trump apparently no longer has functioning long-term memory.

Among other declining mental abilities.

But, as I asked above, how much is this is self-serving in regards to his base? I suspect some of his base think hurricanes devasting the coastal “elites” are somehow God’s plan, but tornados in the prairie Plains are just nature.

Although, doesn’t the “elitism” on the East Coast begin in Northern Virginia and head north up to New England?

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36102 "2019-09-02T14:29:40Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Attention span of a goldfish.

I’m beginning to realize that some times that’s an insult to goldfishes.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36103 "2019-09-02T14:35:31Z")

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Don’t those idiots realize that the ‘elites’ suffer LEAST when bad things happen? They have the money and resources to save themselves, ameliorate anything bad that happens, fix/repair/replace/rebuild anything destroyed. It’s the people who are barely making it under normal condition who have their lives turned upside down. ☹

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36104 "2019-09-02T14:40:27Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> I’m beginning to realize that some times that’s an insult to goldfishes.

I’m guessing the best that a goldfish can do is learn to swim to the top of the bowl when the fish food container appears, and Trump is probably conditioned to salivate when he sees a McDonald’s logo, so they’re in the same ballpark intelligence-wise.

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