# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1807
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36125 "2019-09-03T18:58:43Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > You really think that’s so? It’s not like he signs executive orders without realizing that that’s what he’s doing. Declassifying secret documents should be something that he can at least demonstrate the knowledge that he’s doing it. > > If we accept that he has an “absolute right” to take any action he pleases the moment an impulse strikes him, it really is only a very short step to him having an “absolute right” to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. _Within the realm of security classification_, to my knowledge, the very concept exists purely as an extension of the executive power and the position of Commander in Chief. It’s an absolute right in much the same way as you have an absolute right to your lungs - it’s a part of you, innately. That doesn’t extend to other spheres. In terms of, for example, the monetary policy of the Fed, Trump’s hands are fairly well tied. Whether he could get away with murder on 5th Avenue depends on whether Mitch McConnel thinks that a murderous Trump is an asset or a handicap. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36126 "2019-09-03T18:59:55Z")
never mind ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36127 "2019-09-03T19:08:27Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > Just a random thought: > It struck me that it might not be such a bad idea to hold the next G7 at Doral. After all, all we have to do is remind Trump how generous it was for Trump to volunteer his property free of charge for the meeting when otherwise all the other countries would have to pay for accommodations. Just keep repeating how kind and generous Trump is to forego any income he could have earned during that time in order to be a gracious host. In a fight between stroking his ego and giving him money, my bet is that the ego will always win. As a benefit, all of the other countries save the money they would have otherwise paid for hotel rooms and food. It’s so great that Trump has fantastic restaurants there and that he is offering up their catering services as his own expense for this meeting. One problem with that idea is that he still gets the publicity value of hosting the G7 summit at his property. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36128 "2019-09-03T19:19:01Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > Just a random thought: > It struck me that it might not be such a bad idea to hold the next G7 at Doral. After all, all we have to do is remind Trump how generous it was for Trump to volunteer his property free of charge for the meeting when otherwise all the other countries would have to pay for accommodations. Just keep repeating how kind and generous Trump is to forego any income he could have earned during that time in order to be a gracious host. In a fight between stroking his ego and giving him money, my bet is that the ego will always win. As a benefit, all of the other countries save the money they would have otherwise paid for hotel rooms and food. It’s so great that Trump has fantastic restaurants there and that he is offering up their catering services as his own expense for this meeting. He would just later, quietly, send a big bill for the full expense of the summit to the Secret Service, and none of us would be the wiser. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36129 "2019-09-03T19:40:31Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > Just a random thought: > It’s so great that Trump has fantastic restaurants there and that he is offering up their catering services as his own expense for this meeting. I dunno. Do you think the leaders of the most important countries in the world will be all that willing to eat tables full of cold Big Macs and Whoppers and such? For several days in a row? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36130 "2019-09-03T19:59:09Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I dunno. Do you think the leaders of the most important countries in the world will be all that willing to eat tables full of cold Big Macs and Whoppers and such? For several days in a row? And only one scoop of ice cream? ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36131 "2019-09-03T19:59:29Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Mike Pence’s spokesman said today that Pence can’t be homophobic, he’s sitting down to dinner with the Taoiseach and his husband. “Jesus loves you and doesn’t want to send you to hell for your sins. Will you kneel and pray with me?” Does Mother let him alone with gay men? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36132 "2019-09-03T20:19:34Z")
> [@HelenGawn](#): > > Does Mother let him alone with gay men? Maybe he can’t trust \*himself \*alone with them. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36133 "2019-09-03T23:17:32Z")
Trump congratulates Poland for being invaded by Nazis. > **[Trump roasted for congratulating Poland on WWII anniversary](https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/2019-09-04/ty-article/trump-roasted-for-congratulating-poland-on-wwii-anniversary/0000017f-ed4b-d4a6-af7f-ffcf60a40000)** > > \*\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36134 "2019-09-03T23:33:34Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Trump congratulates Poland for being invaded by Nazis. > > [https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-roasted-for-congratulating-poland-on-wwii-anniversary-1.7795480](https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-roasted-for-congratulating-poland-on-wwii-anniversary-1.7795480) C’mon, he’s congratulating them for having the honor of Pence being there and Trump will be coming soon. He has a great relationship with the Poles. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36135 "2019-09-03T23:34:25Z")
The only people more moronic than him are his supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36136 "2019-09-04T00:07:30Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [Moderating] > We require that posts made to the SDMB be made in a language that the moderators can actually read. Otherwise, we can’t really moderate posts. Please do not make posts that are largely or exclusively in non-English languages.[/Moderating] Bien dit, mon frere. (“Well said, my brother.” Don’t want to get on YOUR shitlist, too) ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36137 "2019-09-04T00:11:41Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I dunno. Do you think the leaders of the most important countries in the world will be all that willing to eat tables full of cold Big Macs and Whoppers and such? For several days in a row? Yeah, Trump properties are famous for their shitty restaurants. Macron would probably limit himself to a glass of milk and a handful of crackers at dinnertime. And the soup would be full of bedbugs. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36138 "2019-09-04T00:17:40Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Trump congratulates Poland for being invaded by Nazis. > > [https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-roasted-for-congratulating-poland-on-wwii-anniversary-1.7795480](https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-roasted-for-congratulating-poland-on-wwii-anniversary-1.7795480) He’s planning on following up by posthumously commerrating Molotov and Von Ribbentrop for their underappreciated efforts in international cooperation. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36139 "2019-09-04T00:23:01Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Mike Pence’s spokesman said today that Pence can’t be homophobic, he’s sitting down to dinner with the Taoiseach and his husband. Would the dinner party also include Pence’s wife/chaperone? ---
**Author:** ![cutman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@cutman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cutman74)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36140 "2019-09-04T02:07:42Z")
The Poland thing made me think of this https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/embed-twit/548a6be4-bf74-4d2c-b6a2-1719fa64d759 ---
**Author:** ![cutman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@cutman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cutman74)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36141 "2019-09-04T02:09:22Z")
Special thanks to my son River for helping me to link that. I’m not a Luddite, but close. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36142 "2019-09-04T03:53:39Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > C’mon, he’s congratulating them for having the honor of Pence being there and Trump will be coming soon. He has a great relationship with the Poles. “I love the Poles. The best dancers. The best. I’ve seen so many but the Poles are amazing. Nobody’s ever danced better. Really. Nobody’s heard about their dancing before I saw it with my own eyes. And look at Warsaw now. People tell me, “Sir, be careful. It’s ghetto.” That’s FAKE NEWS! It’s not a ghetto. It’s never been one. It’s a great place with great dancers. The biggest place in Poland. The best dancers. And they buy their poles from America, where the poles have the best steel.” > [@cutman74](#): > > Special thanks to my son River for helping me to link that. I’m not a Luddite, but close. I’ve a friend who adamantly does not do any work after dark. The rest of us in our circle of friends say that’s because she can’t figure out how to turn on the electricity as she’s that bad with technology. She laughs when we say that because it’s not that far off from the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36143 "2019-09-04T04:54:59Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > And the soup would be full of bedbugs. Not so loud, or everybody will want one. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36144 "2019-09-04T05:25:42Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [Moderating] > We require that posts made to the SDMB be made in a language that the moderators can actually read. Otherwise, we can’t really moderate posts. Please do not make posts that are largely or exclusively in non-English languages. > > No warning issued. > [/Moderating] [del]Mea culpa.[/del] My bad. For the record, the three posts (all in Russian) translate as: It was a smart move, Your friend, Vlad How can you share this with everyone? Even the Chinese? I thought we had something special. Sure, no problem, Comrade [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1806) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1808)