# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36145 "2019-09-04T05:40:22Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Not so loud, or everybody will want one.

Nice and crunchy. No crackers needed.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36146 "2019-09-04T12:47:01Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Trump congratulates Poland for being invaded by Nazis.
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> [https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-roasted-for-congratulating-poland-on-wwii-anniversary-1.7795480](https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-roasted-for-congratulating-poland-on-wwii-anniversary-1.7795480)

Look, there were good people on both sides.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36147 "2019-09-04T13:25:42Z")

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Back to bidness,

[Trump Administration Diverts $3.6 Billion From Military Projects To Border Wall](https://www.npr.org/2019/09/03/757262799/trump-administration-diverts-3-6-billion-from-military-projects-to-border-wall)

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> The Trump administration has started the arduous process of canceling $3.6 billion in military construction projects to fund its plans to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
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> Defense Secretary Mark Esper began notifying lawmakers Tuesday which projects will be canceled in their districts. Top Democrats immediately blasted the plan.
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> Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., was among the first lawmakers to say his district will be impacted by the funding cuts, for the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.
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> “This decision will harm already planned, important projects intended to support our service members at military installations in New York, across the United States, and around the world,” Schumer said. “It is a slap in the face to the members of the Armed Forces who serve our country that President Trump is willing to cannibalize already allocated military funding to boost his own ego and for a wall he promised Mexico would pay to build.”  
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> The Washington Post reported that Pentagon officials said they will halt 127 military construction projects to help build 175 miles of wall.  
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Dying to hear how the Republican Congressmen from the affected locations tap-dance around this. :rolleyes:

BTW the US-Mexico border is 1,954 miles (3,145 km).

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36148 "2019-09-04T13:33:33Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> [del]Mea culpa.[/del] My bad.

LOL…oops…I’m laughing heartily at your comment. 😃

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36149 "2019-09-04T13:41:41Z")

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But are you frolicking about on the carpet, guffawing to an extent that endangers the attachment of a crucial bodily part?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36150 "2019-09-04T13:51:51Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Dying to hear how the Republican Congressmen from the affected locations tap-dance around this. :rolleyes:

It will all be gerrymandered to come out of Democratic districts. Chuck Schumer has already been informed a chunk of the money is coming out of the construction budget for the US Military Academy at West Point, which is in Schumer’s district.

> **[Trump Administration Diverts $3.6 Billion From Military Projects To Border Wall](https://www.npr.org/2019/09/03/757262799/trump-administration-diverts-3-6-billion-from-military-projects-to-border-wall)**
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> Defense Secretary Mark Esper began notifying lawmakers which projects will be canceled in their districts. "It is a slap in the face to the members of the Armed Forces," Sen. Chuck Schumer said.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36151 "2019-09-04T13:53:49Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> But are you frolicking about on the carpet, guffawing to an extent that endangers the attachment of a crucial bodily part?

I am certainly doing both right now! :D:D

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36152 "2019-09-04T14:06:19Z")

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Hold on a minute. Mexico is NOT paying for the wall?? But Trump said that Mexico WAS going to pay for it, and I believed him. Oh hell, you just can’t trust anyone anymore. I never would have believed it, before, if you told me Trump was a liar who conned stupid people, but I guess it’s true.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36153 "2019-09-04T14:39:33Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Hold on a minute. Mexico is NOT paying for the wall?? But Trump said that Mexico WAS going to pay for it, and I believed him. Oh hell, you just can’t trust anyone anymore. I never would have believed it, before, if you told me Trump was a liar who conned stupid people, but I guess it’s true.

No, no, that was just a metaphor. He didn’t mean it literally, just that, like, they’ll be paying for the wall by giving us our jobs back and boosting the economy. Also, he never really said that he was going to do that; that’s just the liberals making stuff up to make him look bad.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36154 "2019-09-04T16:16:37Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> No, no, that was just a metaphor. He didn’t mean it literally, just that, like, they’ll be paying for the wall by giving us our jobs back and boosting the economy. Also, he never really said that he was going to do that; that’s just the liberals making stuff up to make him look bad.

It’s his golf stroke that makes him look bad. Have you seen him play? He swings that club like his spine is in traction and the grip end is tied to his nut sack. WORST. DUFFER. EVER.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36155 "2019-09-04T16:23:27Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Hold on a minute. Mexico is NOT paying for the wall?? But Trump said that Mexico WAS going to pay for it, and I believed him. Oh hell, you just can’t trust anyone anymore. I never would have believed it, before, if you told me Trump was a liar who conned stupid people, but I guess it’s true.

Given that, I believe, the US military is often used to help repair damage after large hurricanes and their construction budget and manpower is being diverted to building sand castles in the desert, I’m going to predict that it will be the people of the Southeastern USA who will pay for the wall.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36156 "2019-09-04T17:01:00Z")

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So 3.8 billion for 175 miles of wall comes to a bit over 21.7 million per mile, or just about $4,112 per foot. Seems a bit pricey to me even by government standards.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36157 "2019-09-04T17:34:50Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> It’s his golf stroke that makes him look bad. Have you seen him play? He swings that club like his spine is in traction and the grip end is tied to his nut sack. WORST. DUFFER. EVER.

Regrettably, the round he played with Kim Jong Un was not televised, but is recorded as eighteen holes played, ending in a tie of 18 to 18.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36158 "2019-09-04T18:06:35Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> It’s his golf stroke that makes him look bad. Have you seen him play? He swings that club like his spine is in traction and the grip end is tied to his nut sack. WORST. DUFFER. EVER.

Not to defend the worst person to ever step foot in the White House, but supposedly that clown is actually a pretty good golfer. He just cheats anyway because that’s who he is.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36159 "2019-09-04T18:21:54Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> … but supposedly that clown is actually a pretty good golfer. …

I know this is the Pit, but, not without a cite he ain’t.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36160 "2019-09-04T18:50:33Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Not to defend the worst person to ever step foot in the White House, but supposedly that clown is actually a pretty good golfer. He just cheats anyway because that’s who he is.

“Pretty good” is kind of a meaningless description; pretty good for what expectation? When he’s not cheating, what does he shoot?

Trump CLAIMED a handicap of 3 prior to being President, which is, for an amateur golfer, sensational. That would be just three or four strokes worse than a professional, and would suggest that when he was a younger man he basically was a professional level golfer.

However, Trump is a liar and a cheat, so that number is almost certainly fiction; the question is by how much. He has been described as a cheater of almost comic degree, so it’s not impossible that his average was not really about 75, as he claimed, but more like 90, which isn’t even pretty good for an amateur.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36161 "2019-09-04T19:05:40Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Trump CLAIMED a handicap of 3 prior to being President, which is, for an amateur golfer, sensational. That would be just three or four strokes worse than a professional, and would suggest that when he was a younger man he basically was a professional level golfer.

Yeah, most of the pros lose at least a few strokes as they age, so if he’s claiming a 3 handicap at age 70, that would suggest he was at pro level earlier in his life. Hell, even the pros have a senior tour for a reason; it’s hard for people over 50 to compete with the younger golfers.

I have no doubt that Trump’s a better golfer than I am, but I haven’t picked up a club for 20 years, and before that I rarely played more than once a month. But that’s about all I’m willing to concede, until I can watch him play 18 holes, with a live and unedited camera on him every step of the way.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36162 "2019-09-04T19:12:41Z")

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I have no doubt that Donald Trump couldn’t fairly _caddy_ for 18 holes.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36163 "2019-09-04T19:20:41Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I have no doubt that Donald Trump couldn’t fairly _caddy_ for 18 holes.

Caddy? hell, the man can’t even walk for 18.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36164 "2019-09-04T20:05:26Z")

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[Trump administration is retconning weather forecasts with sharpies now in effort to make president not appear to be a complete fucking dumbass.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/why-does-trump-s-hurricane-map-look-different-others-n1049711?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&fbclid=IwAR2Aw97Fj28nF_tJ-um0gfdBNI1HHuafN_bCVJLPhaB-B0rMpPWAxRWn9a0)

God help us all, this is not the Onion.

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