# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1809
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36165 "2019-09-04T20:15:53Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Caddy? hell, the man can’t even walk for 18. He apparently [couldn’t even walk a few hundred yards](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/335424-trump-rode-golf-cart-while-g7-leaders-walked-through-siciliy) with other world leaders in Sicily during his first G7 summit, choosing to wait until he could ride in a golf cart. I mean, please – you’re talking about an asshole here who drives his golf cart onto the greens – apparently out of sheer laziness and inconsideration of others. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36166 "2019-09-04T20:17:00Z")
oh yah. > [@](#): > > “Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both,” 18 U.S. Code 2074 Shall we all hold our breath? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36167 "2019-09-04T20:20:23Z")
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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36168 "2019-09-04T20:21:15Z")
> [@slumtrimpet](#): > > oh yah. > > Shall we all hold our breath? :rolleyes: I am here in central ky - expecting that flood surge from dorian any time now - any time… ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36169 "2019-09-04T20:24:38Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [Trump administration is retconning weather forecasts with sharpies now in effort to make president not appear to be a complete fucking dumbass.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/why-does-trump-s-hurricane-map-look-different-others-n1049711?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&fbclid=IwAR2Aw97Fj28nF_tJ-um0gfdBNI1HHuafN_bCVJLPhaB-B0rMpPWAxRWn9a0) > > God help us all, this is not the Onion. Apparently the adult day care staff is finding it harder and harder to keep the 73-year-old toddler placated. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36170 "2019-09-04T20:25:50Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I know this is the Pit, but, not without a cite he ain’t. Interview with [Rick Reilly](https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=trump+cheats+at+golf+rick+reilly&&view=detail&mid=64D9A31A22E8277E672964D9A31A22E8277E6729&&FORM=VRDGAR), who wrote a book on it. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36171 "2019-09-04T20:28:59Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > But that’s about all I’m willing to concede, until I can watch him play 18 holes, with a live and unedited camera on him every step of the way. Thank you for defining my personal vision of Hell. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36172 "2019-09-04T20:36:32Z")
Been wanting to get this off my chest: “There are good people on both sides”. I’m tired of the idea that Trump was referring in part to Nazis and white supremaciststs when he was in fact talking about those who thought the Confederate statues should be torn down vs. those who thought they should stay. Yes, Trump is the personification of a clusterfuck, but I for one hate being lied to about shit like this. This is clearly not what Trump meant, and I don’t care how many bought-and-paid for pundits come out of the the woodwork on MSNBC and elsewhere who insist that it is. I resent that otherwise intelligent people mindlessly repeat this narrative and assume that I am a brain-dead sheep and will just nod along with them when they do, and not research things like this on my own. There are so many things that Trump deserves to be excoriated for. This is not one of them. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36173 "2019-09-04T20:37:37Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [Trump administration is retconning weather forecasts with sharpies now in effort to make president not appear to be a complete fucking dumbass.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/why-does-trump-s-hurricane-map-look-different-others-n1049711?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&fbclid=IwAR2Aw97Fj28nF_tJ-um0gfdBNI1HHuafN_bCVJLPhaB-B0rMpPWAxRWn9a0) > > God help us all, this is not the Onion. That interview is hilarious. The reporter asking “And that map you showed us today looked like it almost had like a Sharpie written” and President Bumblefuck cutting him off “I don’t know I don’t know I don’t know”. Typically, yeah, you don’t know. But you absolutely know about using your presidential signature signing Sharpie to draw that new line that dipped into Alabama. You fooled no one with that amateur attempt. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36174 "2019-09-04T20:41:02Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > Been wanting to get this off my chest: > > “There are good people on both sides”. > > I’m tired of the idea that Trump was referring in part to Nazis and white supremaciststs when he was in fact talking about those who thought the Confederate statues should be torn down vs. those who thought they should stay. Yes, Trump is the personification of a clusterfuck, but I for one hate being lied to about shit like this. This is clearly not what Trump meant, and I don’t care how many bought-and-paid for pundits come out of the the woodwork on MSNBC and elsewhere who insist that it is. I resent that otherwise intelligent people mindlessly repeat this narrative and assume that I am a brain-dead sheep and will just nod along with them when they do, and not research things like this on my own. There are so many things that Trump deserves to be excoriated for. This is not one of them. Wait, what? Reporter: “The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --” Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves – and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36175 "2019-09-04T20:43:16Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > That interview is hilarious. The reporter asking “And that map you showed us today looked like it almost had like a Sharpie written” and President Bumblefuck cutting him off “I don’t know I don’t know I don’t know”. > > Typically, yeah, you don’t know. But you absolutely know about using your presidential signature signing Sharpie to draw that new line that dipped into Alabama. You fooled no one with that amateur attempt. Hey, he found Alabama! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36176 "2019-09-04T20:57:20Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > Been wanting to get this off my chest: > > “There are good people on both sides”. > > I’m tired of the idea that Trump was referring in part to Nazis and white supremaciststs when he was in fact talking about those who thought the Confederate statues should be torn down vs. those who thought they should stay. Yes, Trump is the personification of a clusterfuck, but I for one hate being lied to about shit like this. This is clearly not what Trump meant, and I don’t care how many bought-and-paid for pundits come out of the the woodwork on MSNBC and elsewhere who insist that it is. I resent that otherwise intelligent people mindlessly repeat this narrative and assume that I am a brain-dead sheep and will just nod along with them when they do, and not research things like this on my own. There are so many things that Trump deserves to be excoriated for. This is not one of them. Maybe this escaped you: the people who want the Confederate statues to stay up are racist, white supremacists and Nazis. EVEN IF we take your interpretation of things to be 100% accurate, Trump is still saying “there are some very fine Nazis and white supremacists and racists” and I’m sorry, but in my opinion there isn’t any such thing, except to other Nazis, white supremacists and/or racists. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36177 "2019-09-04T20:59:12Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > Been wanting to get this off my chest: > > “There are good people on both sides”. > > I’m tired of the idea that Trump was referring in part to Nazis and white supremaciststs when he was in fact talking about those who thought the Confederate statues should be torn down vs. those who thought they should stay. …There are so many things that Trump deserves to be excoriated for. This is not one of them. If the protests had consisted entirely of the Daughters of the Confederacy, standing before a statue of Lee with signs saying “Please preserve our southern heritage”…you might have a partial point. But that’s not what happened. And in light of what _did_ happen, Trump deserves all the scorn he can get for his “both sides” comment. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36178 "2019-09-04T21:14:30Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Interview with [Rick Reilly](https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=trump+cheats+at+golf+rick+reilly&&view=detail&mid=64D9A31A22E8277E672964D9A31A22E8277E6729&&FORM=VRDGAR), who wrote a book on it. Thanks for the cite. From that video I got that Trump was a 9 or 10 handicap, and cheats like nobody’s business. I like the part where the club caddys were calling him Pele for his forte at kicking the ball. I’d also like to see the challenge the author made be televised with no golf carts allowed. My predicted result, Trump suffers a fatal heart attack, joyous worldwide celebration ensues. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36179 "2019-09-04T21:20:34Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [Trump administration is retconning weather forecasts with sharpies now in effort to make president not appear to be a complete fucking dumbass.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/why-does-trump-s-hurricane-map-look-different-others-n1049711?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&fbclid=IwAR2Aw97Fj28nF_tJ-um0gfdBNI1HHuafN_bCVJLPhaB-B0rMpPWAxRWn9a0) > > God help us all, this is not the Onion. What the Sweet Jesus is going on? The NOAA map of the hurricane path LITERALLY WAS ALTERED WITH A SHARPIE to include Alabama. Just so the giant Orange Baby would not have his feelings hurt. WHO CAN DEFEND THIS? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36180 "2019-09-04T21:21:28Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > > > [Trump administration is retconning weather forecasts with sharpies now in effort to make president not appear to be a complete fucking dumbass.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/why-does-trump-s-hurricane-map-look-different-others-n1049711?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&fbclid=IwAR2Aw97Fj28nF_tJ-um0gfdBNI1HHuafN_bCVJLPhaB-B0rMpPWAxRWn9a0) > > > > God help us all, this is not the Onion. > > Apparently the adult day care staff is finding it harder and harder to keep the 73-year-old toddler placated. There is (or at least was) an office in the basement of the Executive Office Building known as Room 16. For a time during the Nixon presidency it bore a sign reading “David Young—Plumber” and was the headquarters for the Three Stooges-esque unit of the same name. With a legacy like that, it would seem to be a perfect launching pad for Trumpankhamen’s [Ministry of Truth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Four#Ministry_of_Truth). “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36181 "2019-09-04T21:28:43Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [Trump administration is retconning weather forecasts with sharpies now in effort to make president not appear to be a complete fucking dumbass.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/why-does-trump-s-hurricane-map-look-different-others-n1049711?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&fbclid=IwAR2Aw97Fj28nF_tJ-um0gfdBNI1HHuafN_bCVJLPhaB-B0rMpPWAxRWn9a0) > > God help us all, this is not the Onion. It, of course, had the opposite effect. God, what a fucking moron. ETA: He would have looked less like a fucking moron if he’d snapped a picture of the chart, flash on, and just tweeted that out. Thanks, Republicans, for the national disgrace. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36182 "2019-09-04T21:29:14Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > But you absolutely know about using your presidential signature signing Sharpie to draw that new line that dipped into Alabama. You fooled no one with that amateur attempt. It reminds me of the ‘Nasty’ episode of _The Young Ones_. The lads have rented a VHS machine, and they pop in a ‘video nasty’. The disclaimer at the beginning says something to the effect of ‘This ain’t no bleeding’ pirate!’ ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36183 "2019-09-04T21:30:13Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > Been wanting to get this off my chest: > > “There are good people on both sides”. > > I’m tired of the idea that Trump was referring in part to Nazis and white supremaciststs when he was in fact talking about those who thought the Confederate statues should be torn down vs. those who thought they should stay. Yes, Trump is the personification of a clusterfuck, but I for one hate being lied to about shit like this. This is clearly not what Trump meant, and I don’t care how many bought-and-paid for pundits come out of the the woodwork on MSNBC and elsewhere who insist that it is. I resent that otherwise intelligent people mindlessly repeat this narrative and assume that I am a brain-dead sheep and will just nod along with them when they do, and not research things like this on my own. There are so many things that Trump deserves to be excoriated for. This is not one of them. I suppose that we could have a debate over whether people who want the statues and such to remain DESERVE to not be characterized as white supremacists and/or Nazis… Dibs on the “CON” position! ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36184 "2019-09-04T21:45:39Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > Been wanting to get this off my chest: > > “There are good people on both sides”. > > I’m tired of the idea that Trump was referring in part to Nazis and white supremaciststs when he was in fact talking about those who thought the Confederate statues should be torn down vs. those who thought they should stay. Yes, Trump is the personification of a clusterfuck, but I for one hate being lied to about shit like this. This is clearly not what Trump meant, and I don’t care how many bought-and-paid for pundits come out of the the woodwork on MSNBC and elsewhere who insist that it is. I resent that otherwise intelligent people mindlessly repeat this narrative and assume that I am a brain-dead sheep and will just nod along with them when they do, and not research things like this on my own. There are so many things that Trump deserves to be excoriated for. This is not one of them. > [@wguy123](#): > > Wait, what? > > Reporter: “The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --” > > Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves – and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. In addition to **wguy123** ’s quote of the question to which Trump was answering, it should also be noted that the Daughters of the Confederacy - who put up those statues - were pretty clearly the female arm of the KKK, if you look into them. They were the wives and daughters of KKK members, put up a commemorative plaque for the KKK itself, and created and used pro-KKK history books to the schools. If you look into the history of those statues, there’s really nothing positive about them beyond, perhaps, artistic merit and the opportunity to raise the question of our history of racism and slavery. Both of the latter can be done perfectly well by putting the statues in a museum and making it clear that they were crafted by the people who went on to do [things like this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_of_Jesse_Washington). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1808) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1810)