# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3601 "2017-04-25T07:35:17Z")

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> [@ganthet](#):
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> NM, already posted.

Okay. I have to ask. Did **El\_Kabong** beat you to the punch?

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3602 "2017-04-25T08:55:25Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> College kids? Has anyone said “superfly” in, like, forever? Totally?

Only when followed by the name Jimmy Snuka.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3603 "2017-04-25T11:32:25Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> College kids? Has anyone said “superfly” in, like, forever? Totally?

They only say it when they’re in front of a [fisheye lens](https://youtu.be/hHcyJPTTn9w).

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3604 "2017-04-25T16:20:52Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> Nikki Haley was there. She is the U.S. Ambassador to the UN. Guess which department ambassadors fall under.
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> That is the most relevant State department member. She regularly speaks for the U.S. to that exact audience. In fact this month she is serving as the president of that body. Who else would you have wanted in attendance that wasn’t there?

Oh, how about some translators? How about some folks who could help 'ol Nicky, a foreign affairs tyro, navigate the waters of diplomacy?. How about people who could teach 45 something about the history of Korea? Or folks who could stand by to answer questions? Or US UN staff - if there are any.

- for starters.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3605 "2017-04-25T16:40:29Z")

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Damning:

[100 days of gibberish – Trump has weaponised nonsense](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/25/trump-100-days-gibberish-weaponised-white-house-language-presidency)

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> With only a week left of his first 100 days in office – traditionally a milestone for American presidents – Donald Trump sat down with the Associated Press to reflect on his accomplishments (sic) and preemptively brag about future ones. This remarkable artifact, a transcript of which AP then released in full, captures, more than any other piece of media (except perhaps Trump’s Twitter feed), the unifying ethos of the Trump White House: weaponised nonsense.

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> Trump lies relentlessly about his achievements . . .

I agree the 100 day thing is arbitrary, but that’s not the way 45 looked at it on January 20.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3606 "2017-04-25T17:25:35Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Damning:
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> [100 days of gibberish – Trump has weaponised nonsense](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/25/trump-100-days-gibberish-weaponised-white-house-language-presidency)
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> I agree the 100 day thing is arbitrary, but that’s not the way 45 looked at it on January 20.

Skewered!

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> Trump describes a meeting with Democratic congressman Elijah Cummings:
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> “Well he said, you’ll be the greatest president in the history of, but you know what, I’ll take that also, but that you could be. But he said, will be the greatest president but I would also accept the other. In other words, if you do your job, but I accept that. Then I watched him interviewed and it was like he never even was here. It’s incredible. I watched him interviewed a week later and it’s like he was never in my office. And you can even say that.”

WAT?

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3607 "2017-04-25T17:34:53Z")

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There was a Mexican comedian (Cantinflas) whose thing was to give long speeches completely devoid of meaning, and in which the commonly accepted syntax and grammar rules were ignored.

He still made more sense than Trump.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3608 "2017-04-25T17:50:13Z")

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While discussing (as such) the cruise missile attack on Syria, Trump talked about not wanting a missile to land “in the middle of a town or hamlet.” Hamlet isn’t a word you hear too often these days outside an English Literature class. When I hear it in reference to a village or town, I first think of Faulkner’s novel “The Hamlet”, but I then think of the Viet Nam War. Didn’t we call all those villages we blew up “hamlets”? Is the term still commonly used in military circles? Which of Trump’s inner circle used that word in front of Trump immediately before the interview?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3609 "2017-04-25T17:58:07Z")

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Maybe he was referencing that Disney movie about the melancholy Great Dane?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3610 "2017-04-25T18:19:15Z")

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Or a more literate member of his staff cautioned against elaborate plotting and pretending to be insane by referencing the play. “Remember what happens in the end of _Hamlet_?” “Michael Douglas kills Alan Bates for having an affair with Glenn Close?” “No, it was Mel Gibson and he…oh, never mind.”

Shakespeare is a dangerous weapon in the hands of the ignorant. Let’s hope Trump doesn’t see a production of Henry VI and take the infamous suggestion to heart.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3611 "2017-04-25T19:10:14Z")

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For some reason, Ivanka was at a conference on women’s entrepreneurship in Germany on a panel including Angela Merkel. [When Ivanka said that her father is “an advocate for families and working women”, she was booed.](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/ivanka-trump-berlin-germany-booed-womens-panel)

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3612 "2017-04-25T19:15:49Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> There was a Mexican comedian (Cantinflas) whose thing was to give long speeches completely devoid of meaning, and in which the commonly accepted syntax and grammar rules were ignored.
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> He still made more sense than Trump.

To viewers who don’t understand Mexican Spanish, to boot.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3613 "2017-04-25T19:28:53Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> While discussing (as such) the cruise missile attack on Syria, Trump talked about not wanting a missile to land “in the middle of a town or hamlet.” Hamlet isn’t a word you hear too often these days outside an English Literature class. When I hear it in reference to a village or town, I first think of Faulkner’s novel “The Hamlet”, but I then think of the Viet Nam War. Didn’t we call all those villages we blew up “hamlets”? Is the term still commonly used in military circles? Which of Trump’s inner circle used that word in front of Trump immediately before the interview?

I think that one of the more recent iterations of Civ had hamlets you could build on your property.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3614 "2017-04-25T19:39:06Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> While discussing (as such) the cruise missile attack on Syria, Trump talked about not wanting a missile to land “in the middle of a town or hamlet.” Hamlet isn’t a word you hear too often these days outside an English Literature class. When I hear it in reference to a village or town, I first think of Faulkner’s novel “The Hamlet”, but I then think of the Viet Nam War. Didn’t we call all those villages we blew up “hamlets”? Is the term still commonly used in military circles? Which of Trump’s inner circle used that word in front of Trump immediately before the interview?

When I was in college, I had a roommate who was taking a class about Vietnam and was reading _A Bright Shining Lie_. He asked us roommates what a hamlet was, and I said: “It’s a small village. Or, a Shakespearean play, depending on the context of the sentence.”

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3615 "2017-04-25T19:39:43Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> There was a Mexican comedian (Cantinflas) whose thing was to give long speeches completely devoid of meaning, and in which the commonly accepted syntax and grammar rules were ignored.
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> He still made more sense than Trump.

It’s a sad day when you can go “Say what you will about Dubya, but at least you knew what he was misspeaking about !”

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3616 "2017-04-25T20:19:22Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> While discussing (as such) the cruise missile attack on Syria, Trump talked about not wanting a missile to land “in the middle of a town or hamlet.” Hamlet isn’t a word you hear too often these days outside an English Literature class. When I hear it in reference to a village or town, I first think of Faulkner’s novel “The Hamlet”, but I then think of the Viet Nam War. Didn’t we call all those villages we blew up “hamlets”? Is the term still commonly used in military circles? Which of Trump’s inner circle used that word in front of Trump immediately before the interview?

Here’s the transcript of the entire interview

> **[AP News](https://apnews.com/article/c810d7de280a47e88848b0ac74690c83)**
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> A transcript of an Oval Office interview Friday with President Donald Trump by AP White House Correspondent Julie Pace.

I can’t decide what my favorite quote is :

“If,if, Abe Lincoln came back to life he would lose New York, he would lose California”

( regarding CNN and MSNBC ) “I don’t watch things and I never thought I had that ability”  
Note : he said this several times in slightly different ways

Or on the difference between being a businessman and being POTUS

“In business you don’t necessarily need heart, whereas here almost everything affects people”  
God, this one really reflects horribly on his time in business.

But there are so many more. “hamlet” doesn’t make my top 10.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3617 "2017-04-25T20:19:52Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I think that one of the more recent iterations of Civ had hamlets you could build on your property.

Hamlets are what small families serve on Easter Sunday.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3618 "2017-04-25T20:23:14Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Hamlets are what small families serve on Easter Sunday.

Small families serve the prince of Denmark on Easter?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3619 "2017-04-25T20:23:41Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> There was a Mexican comedian (Cantinflas) whose thing was to give long speeches completely devoid of meaning, and in which the commonly accepted syntax and grammar rules were ignored.
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> He still made more sense than Trump.

I’m intrigued and want to know if Cantinflas was anything like the late, great [World’s Foremost Authority, Professor Irwin Corey](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CsdRGbQPr0).

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3620 "2017-04-25T20:35:31Z")

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[Ivanka’s clothing line is tanking, so the people who own the rights have relabeled them and sold them to Stein Mart.](http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/one-retailer-has-found-devious-way-unload-ivanka-trumps-reviled-clothing-line)

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