# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1810
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36185 "2019-09-04T21:47:36Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” What we really need is someone who can control the orange pest. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36186 "2019-09-04T21:51:49Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > What the Sweet Jesus is going on? The NOAA map of the hurricane path LITERALLY WAS ALTERED WITH A SHARPIE to include Alabama. > > Just so the giant Orange Baby would not have his feelings hurt. > > WHO CAN DEFEND THIS? They can’t even redo it so the circle is all white? They don’t have that technology? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36187 "2019-09-04T22:37:09Z")
I read somewhere that Dotard drew the line his very own self. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36188 "2019-09-04T22:52:48Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > It will all be gerrymandered to come out of Democratic districts. Chuck Schumer has already been informed a chunk of the money is coming out of the construction budget for the US Military Academy at West Point, which is in Schumer’s district. > > [Border Wall: Pentagon Canceling $3.6 Billion In Military Projects To Fund Wall : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2019/09/03/757262799/trump-administration-diverts-3-6-billion-from-military-projects-to-border-wall) Nitpicking but Schumer is a Senator. He doesn’t have a district. Senators represent their entire state. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36189 "2019-09-04T22:54:53Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > They can’t even redo it so the circle is all white? They don’t have that technology? It looks like it was drawn by a child, with a crayon. Or what \*\*JohnT \*\*said. This is just laugh-out-loud stupid. The only way for Trump to top this is for him to invite the press into his bathroom, show them a turd in the toilet, and declare “I did that! I did a good poopy!” Jesus! At some point, are the Republicans embarrassed? At all? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36190 "2019-09-04T22:56:44Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > So 3.8 billion for 175 miles of wall comes to a bit over 21.7 million per mile, or just about $4,112 per foot. Seems a bit pricey to me even by government standards. Actual costs are probably closer to a few hundred dollars per foot. The rest is for Trump’s pocket, and for the creation of oligarchs who will do anything and everything to make sure Trump stays in office (and the graft continues to flow). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36191 "2019-09-04T23:01:14Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > This is just laugh-out-loud stupid. The only way for Trump to top this is for him to invite the press into his bathroom, show them a turd in the toilet, and declare “I did that! I did a good poopy!” With Trump, we can’t just accept his claim. I’d want to send it out for testing. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36192 "2019-09-04T23:58:20Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > It, of course, had the opposite effect. God, what a fucking moron. > ETA: He would have looked less like a fucking moron if he’d snapped a picture of the chart, flash on, and just tweeted that out. Thanks, Republicans, for the national disgrace. It is the perfect storm. A moron supported by morons. The amount of hot air will do great damage to the USA. That much he has correct. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36193 "2019-09-05T00:15:02Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Nitpicking but Schumer is a Senator. He doesn’t have a district. Senators represent their entire state. Yes, of course. My bad. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36194 "2019-09-05T00:20:47Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > > > It will all be gerrymandered to come out of Democratic districts. Chuck Schumer has already been informed a chunk of the money is coming out of the construction budget for the US Military Academy at West Point, which is in Schumer’s district. > > > > [Border Wall: Pentagon Canceling $3.6 Billion In Military Projects To Fund Wall : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2019/09/03/757262799/trump-administration-diverts-3-6-billion-from-military-projects-to-border-wall) > > Nitpicking but Schumer is a Senator. He doesn’t have a district. Senators represent their entire state. Note that the NPR story in the link also refers to Schumer’s “district”. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36195 "2019-09-05T00:26:40Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > What the Sweet Jesus is going on? The NOAA map of the hurricane path LITERALLY WAS ALTERED WITH A SHARPIE to include Alabama. > > Just so the giant Orange Baby would not have his feelings hurt. > > WHO CAN DEFEND THIS? I caught some of Trump’s hurricane rambling while I was at home for lunch and I was wondering why they kept showing a map of Dorian’s projected path from two weeks ago. It didn’t make sense, but it’s Trump so I didn’t put any thought into it. Looks like I can still be surprised at the lengths he will go to to prove he is “right”. There is something seriously wrong with that man and the people enabling him. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36196 "2019-09-05T00:50:46Z")
Actually…why was Trump even doing this at all? Presidents who generally know what they’re talking about don’t feel compelled to talk about hurricanes while pointing to maps – that’s what we have NOAA for. I’m sure I can answer my own question, though, and it involves the phrase “doubling down”. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36197 "2019-09-05T00:56:04Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > “Pretty good” is kind of a meaningless description; pretty good for what expectation? When he’s not cheating, what does he shoot? > > Trump CLAIMED a handicap of 3 prior to being President, which is, for an amateur golfer, sensational. That would be just three or four strokes worse than a professional, and would suggest that when he was a younger man he basically was a professional level golfer. > > However, Trump is a liar and a cheat, so that number is almost certainly fiction; the question is by how much. He has been described as a cheater of almost comic degree, so it’s not impossible that his average was not really about 75, as he claimed, but more like 90, which isn’t even pretty good for an amateur. There is no way he is more than average IMO. He has likely played a lot over the years so maybe he is around average if all the practice has helped him improve, but there’s just no way he is or ever was at a professional level. This is just part and parcel of his claims to be the best at everything even though he doesn’t study, read, research, exercise, or do anything that would require more mental or physical effort than it takes to walk to the toilet and tweet at the same time. And since he lies and cheats about absolutely everything, it’s pretty sure he’s never played a game where he didn’t cheat. > [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > They can’t even redo it so the circle is all white? They don’t have that technology? Surely he could have skimmed a little dough from somewhere more important to hire a professional photoshopper to make that weather map look more official. It’s actually kind of interesting to me that his aides and abetters allowed him to go before the press with that sad little display. I wonder if _even they_ realized it wouldn’t be acceptable to alter an official NOAA forecast. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36198 "2019-09-05T02:00:19Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > There is no way he is more than average IMO. He has likely played a lot over the years so maybe he is around average if all the practice has helped him improve, but there’s just no way he is or ever was at a professional level. This is just part and parcel of his claims to be the best at everything even though he doesn’t study, read, research, exercise, or do anything that would require more mental or physical effort than it takes to walk to the toilet and tweet at the same time. And since he lies and cheats about absolutely everything, it’s pretty sure he’s never played a game where he didn’t cheat. > Surely he could have skimmed a little dough from somewhere more important to hire a professional photoshopper to make that weather map look more official. It’s actually kind of interesting to me that his aides and abetters allowed him to go before the press with that sad little display. I wonder if _even they_ realized it wouldn’t be acceptable to alter an official NOAA forecast. I’ve wondered the same thing. A couple of possibilities. 1. They are as stupid as he is. 2. They are happy to let him make an ass out himself. 3. They are afraid to try to correct him. They understand it wouldn’t do any good and he’ll just make an ass out himself anyway (and they’ll lose their 6 figure gig). I suspect it is a combination of all of the above. They can’t ALL be as stupid as he is, the odds are against it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36199 "2019-09-05T02:06:29Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I’ve wondered the same thing. > > A couple of possibilities. > > 1. They are as stupid as he is. > 2. They are happy to let him make an ass out himself. > 3. They are afraid to try to correct him. They understand it wouldn’t do any good and he’ll just make an ass out himself anyway (and they’ll lose their 6 figure gig). > > I suspect it is a combination of all of the above. They can’t ALL be as stupid as he is, the odds are against it. 1. Trump’s original attempt was far worse and what we saw represents several hours of efforts by people on his staff to make it look better. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36200 "2019-09-05T02:14:55Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > 1. Trump’s original attempt was far worse and what we saw represents several hours of efforts by people on his staff to make it look better. That’s possible too. The circle did include a part of Alabama and I doubt Trump would be able to manage that. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36201 "2019-09-05T02:15:41Z")
1. They all have grasping career goals and crushing student loan debt. He tells them what, and they only ask how high and what color. They lose this job, they’re boned. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36202 "2019-09-05T02:20:10Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > There is no way he is more than average IMO. He has likely played a lot over the years so maybe he is around average if all the practice has helped him improve, but there’s just no way he is or ever was at a professional level. This is just part and parcel of his claims to be the best at everything even though he doesn’t study, read, research, exercise, or do anything that would require more mental or physical effort than it takes to walk to the toilet and tweet at the same time. And since he lies and cheats about absolutely everything, it’s pretty sure he’s never played a game where he didn’t cheat. Trump doesn’t cheat in the way normal people cheat. Normal people are aware that the other players won’t let them cheat so they have to figure out clever ways to cheat that the other players won’t detect. Trump just declares that ten strokes was five strokes. The people he’s playing with know he’s lying but they won’t argue with him. Trump’s version of cheating is to only play with people who will accept his cheating. I think Trump’s problem is that he’s used to being in ponds small enough that he can feel like a big fish. He’s always made sure to surround himself by people who are weaker than he is. So he’s always been able to say or do whatever he wants and nobody is able to call him on it. This has handicapped him. He’s never had to learn how to outsmart people or convince people or cajole people or even trick people. He literally doesn’t know how to handle people who disagree with him. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36203 "2019-09-05T02:20:30Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > They can’t even redo it so the circle is all white? They don’t have that technology? \ I love that black sharpie. It’s the only black thing I actually like. I sign all my executive orders with it. It’s my security sharpie, and it makes everything great and beautiful and big. Big is beautiful. Black is beautiful, too, if it’s my Sharpie. \ ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36204 "2019-09-05T02:27:39Z")
Trump has [tweeted a new map](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1169375550806351872): > [@Donald Trump](#): > > This was the originally projected path of the Hurricane in its early stages. As you can see, almost all models predicted it to go through Florida also hitting Georgia and Alabama. I accept the Fake News apologies! Not unexpectedly, people [are suspicious](https://twitter.com/eugenegu/status/1169417014470795264) about whether this new map he’s tweeted is legit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1809) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1811)