# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1812
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36225 "2019-09-05T06:06:02Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Trump has [tweeted a new map](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1169375550806351872): > > Not unexpectedly, people [are suspicious](https://twitter.com/eugenegu/status/1169417014470795264) about whether this new map he’s tweeted is legit. [People are saying this one of his wall is suspicious too](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDpW54FUcAAovYM?format=jpg&name=900x900). > [@](#): > > Our beautiful black wall is built! And visible from space! Thanks SpaceForce! Winning! ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36226 "2019-09-05T06:50:57Z")
Have you heard? The chocolate ration is being increased to twenty grammes a week! All hail The Chosen One for the new, happy life his wise leadership has bestowed upon us! (Anyone got a razor blade they can let me have? The shops have been out of them for weeks.) ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36227 "2019-09-05T07:31:23Z")
The Sharpie strikes again!!! > ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36228 "2019-09-05T12:11:03Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > What the Sweet Jesus is going on? The NOAA map of the hurricane path LITERALLY WAS ALTERED WITH A SHARPIE to include Alabama. > > Just so the giant Orange Baby would not have his feelings hurt. > > WHO CAN DEFEND THIS? [Magiver can](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881506). See posts 5, 10, 12 and 18. We’re just mindlessly attacking the president. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36229 "2019-09-05T12:23:22Z")
Jesus fucking christ what a goddamn retard. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36230 "2019-09-05T12:24:06Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > [Magiver can](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881506). See posts 5, 10, 12 and 18. We’re just mindlessly attacking the president. Poor bastard. He’s clearly suffering from a severe case of Trump Arrangement Syndrome. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36231 "2019-09-05T12:49:09Z")
Criticizing Trump’s sharpie bullshit, that’s the mindless part? Holy shit. Leave it to the Trump supporters to out-stupid Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36232 "2019-09-05T12:58:00Z")
Perhaps he saw that 96 six hour old spaghetti possible hurricane path map at some time. He latched on to it and included Alabama in his warning. Of course he was wrong and working with old data (which is another issue all together). ALL he had to do is admit he mis-spoke, or was remembering older data and move on. He wouldn’t even have to fucking apologize to his moronic followers. But NooOOOooo, he has to turn his ‘mistake’ into a full blown lie and blame everyone else. Including that faked NOAA map is the height of morronic insulting bullshit. Not to mention against the law. This piece of shit has serious problems. And we sit back and wait for his next lie. Won’t take long, it’s a daily occurrence. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36233 "2019-09-05T13:08:20Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Caddy? hell, the man can’t even walk for 18. Here’s an entire article about the the myriad of ways that Trump cheats at golf. Which includes sabotaging his opponent’s shots. > **[How and why President Trump cheats at golf — even when he’s playing...](https://golf.com/lifestyle/celebrities/how-why-president-trump-cheats-golf-playing-tiger-woods/)** > > Whether you’re Trump’s pharmacist or Tiger Woods, if you’re playing golf with the President, he’s going to cheat. In fact, he did cheat with Tiger Woods. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36234 "2019-09-05T13:19:39Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Here’s an entire article about the the myriad of ways that Trump cheats at golf. Which includes sabotaging his opponent’s shots. > > [https://www.golf.com/news/features/2019/04/02/how-why-president-trump-cheats-golf-playing-tiger-woods/](https://www.golf.com/news/features/2019/04/02/how-why-president-trump-cheats-golf-playing-tiger-woods/) This article is brilliant, hilarious, deeply alarming, and validates everything we know about how You-Know-Who operates. There’s a bunch of golf jargon, but the sense of it is clear. (My bold) > [@](#): > > …Trump doesn’t just cheat at golf. He cheats like a three-card Monte dealer. He throws it, boots it, and moves it. He lies about his lies. He fudges and foozles and fluffs. At Winged Foot, where Trump is a member, the caddies got so used to seeing him kick his ball back onto the fairway they came up with a nickname for him: “Pele.” > > “I played with him once,” says Bryan Marsal, longtime Winged Foot member and chair of the coming 2020 Men’s U.S. Open. “It was a Saturday morning game. We go to the first tee and he couldn’t have been nicer. But then he said, ‘You see those two guys? They cheat. See me? I cheat. And I expect you to cheat because we’re going to beat those two guys today.’… So, yes, it’s true, he’s going to cheat you. But I think **Donald, in his heart of hearts, believes that you’re gonna cheat him, too. So if it’s the same, if everybody’s cheating, he doesn’t see it as really cheating.”** > … > > Off they went. At one point, they were playing a blind par 5, and [Mike] Tirico [Football announcer], who’s a 12.3 handicap, had 230 yards into the green. > > He hit the 3-wood of his life. “Oh my god!” his caddy said, open- mouthed. The thing had the flag covered from the start. It crested the hill perfectly and was going to be tight to the pin. Shocked at his sudden skill, Tirico high-fived his caddie and strode toward the green, his shoes barely touching the grass. > > But, somehow, when they got there, the ball wasn’t near the pin. It wasn’t even on the green. It was 50 feet left of the pin, in the bunker. Unless it hit a drone and ricocheted sideways, there was no physical way it could’ve ended up there. > > “Lousy break,” Trump said to Tirico, who checked the marking on the ball to be sure it was his. It was. Befuddled, it took Tirico two swipes to escape the bunker on the way to a 7. > > “Afterwards,” Tirico remembers, “Trump’s caddy came up to me and said, **‘You know that shot you hit on the par 5? It was about 10 feet from the hole. Trump threw it into the bunker. I watched him do it.’”** > > What did Tirico do? He laughed, shook his head, went inside, and paid Trump his money. When it comes to golf, Trump is the tornado and you are the trailer. > > But why? Why does Trump cheat so much when he’s already a decent player? And how can he be so shameless as to cheat right in front of people? **They call him on it, but he just shrugs and cheats some more.** It’s ruined his reputation in the golf world. Ninety percent of the people I interviewed — on and off the record — say he openly cheats. A lot of them said they stopped playing with him because of it. So why? Why cheat? Why lie? Why exaggerate his handicap, his scores, his club championships? > > “Because he has to,” says Harvard psychiatrist Dr. Lance Dodes, co-author of _The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump_. “He needs to be the best at everything. He can’t stand not winning, not being the best. It had to have started very early in his development. To him, not being the best is like fingernails on the blackboard to you. He can’t live with it.” > … President One-Sick-Puppy. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36235 "2019-09-05T13:29:04Z")
Heck, Ann. He cheats at golf against 10 year old kids. [But, Mr Trump then reportedly rushed ahead and decided that the 10-year-old’s ball was his. His caddy then backed him up.]([https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-golf-cheating-10-year-old-boy-mar-a-lago-a8909011.htmlDuring](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-golf-cheating-10-year-old-boy-mar-a-lago-a8909011.htmlDuring) that play, the trio reportedly came across a hole with a big pond. Mr Virtue and his son both hit their balls onto the putting green, while Mr Trump hit his ball into the water.) That’s our President. Willing to cheat kids to come out on ‘top’ in a impromptu tournament. He’s a liar and a cheat. It’s all he knows how to do. And he does it poorly. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36236 "2019-09-05T13:34:13Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Leave it to the Trump supporters to out-stupid Donald Trump. Even more impressive than [out-crazying the Joker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHHoGBs0J2E)! ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36237 "2019-09-05T14:08:30Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > [Magiver can](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881506). See posts 5, 10, 12 and 18. We’re just mindlessly attacking the president. Wow! I cannot believe anyone would defend the “president” hand drawing on the old hurricane projection to prove he was right. But, right there is proof the lengths someone will go. I’m off to go find more presidential sharpie memes. Some of them are hilarious! I love the one of him out golfing with abs and a thin waist! 😃 Sweet baby jesus…twittler just tweeted AGAIN about it: **Alabama was going to be hit or grazed, and then Hurricane Dorian took a different path (up along the East Coast). The Fake News knows this very well. That’s why they’re the Fake News!** ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36238 "2019-09-05T14:16:40Z")
I’ll bet that Trump just can’t wait for Alabama to get hit by a hurricane, any hurricane. It’ll be happy feet time for the King Of All Dumbfucks. Woo-hoo! Told you it was possible!! ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36239 "2019-09-05T15:54:54Z")
Here’s the full story, day-to-day, of the Weather Map SNAFU. Plus dick jokes. > **[Who Knew Trump's Mental Breakdown Would Involve Drawing Dicks On Hurricane Maps?](https://www.wonkette.com/who-knew-trumps-mental-breakdown-would-involve-drawing-dicks-on-hurricane-maps)** > > President Things-Knower drew dicks on the hurricane chart, OK? The dicks is on ALABAMA, OK, YOU SEE? THERE WERE TWO KEYS TO THE WEATHER MAP CLOSET My god, it would be impossible to make this sort of shit up. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36240 "2019-09-05T16:24:13Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Here’s the full story, day-to-day, of the Weather Map SNAFU. Plus dick jokes. > > [Who Knew Trump's Mental Breakdown Would Involve Drawing Dicks On Hurricane Maps?](https://www.wonkette.com/who-knew-trumps-mental-breakdown-would-involve-drawing-dicks-on-hurricane-maps) > > THERE WERE TWO KEYS TO THE WEATHER MAP CLOSET > > My god, it would be impossible to make this sort of shit up. “THERE WERE TWO KEYS TO THE WEATHER MAP CLOSET” – so THAT’S where the strawberries were all the time! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36241 "2019-09-05T16:28:21Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I’m not sure what you’re referencing by “12 Zulu” so possibly I am mistaken. You forgot that quick? > [@Skywatcher](#): > > [This blog image](https://blog.weather.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Dorian-EPS-Spaghetti-8-28-2.png) is timestamped 12 Zulu (8 AM local) on 28 August. > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > [https://twitter.com/eugenegu/status/1169417014470795264](https://twitter.com/eugenegu/status/1169417014470795264) That map doesn’t seem to be anywhere other than hosted on Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36242 "2019-09-05T16:37:15Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > I read some article which talked about Trump’s upbringing; the prep had included interviewing his military-school classmates, who according to the article “were impressed by his size and athleticism”. > > My brain read that as “he was a physical bully, using his large size to cower smaller boys and pushing or hitting those who refused to bow and scrape”. Many boys who’ve been big their whole life or who are the eldest child/cousin have a handicap their whole lives in that they were the automatic guilty party in any fight, they spent their whole childhoods being told to be careful because even if it was their smaller cousin who’d bumped into them, the size (mass) difference meant it was that smaller boy who’d end up on his ass… anybody here have enough imagination to picture Trump’s parents doing that? Because I try and my brain lets out a dry laugh. I think this is accurate. It’s how I read the situation, too. And, personally, my younger sister was the physically biggest of three sisters (bro was the baby), and she used to tell me how careful she had to be when playing with her friends as kids – they were all so much smaller than she was. This was her own conscience telling her this. Trump never developed this sense. Oh, and she just signed up for Medicare, and I _still_ have to hear her whine about being forced to be a “Big” Angel in the first grade Christmas play. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36243 "2019-09-05T17:04:57Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > [Magiver can](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881506). See posts 5, 10, 12 and 18. We’re just mindlessly attacking the president. That is nothing less that full-blown mental illness on display in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36244 "2019-09-05T17:47:06Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Wait, what? > > Reporter: “The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --” > > Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves – and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Maybe this escaped you: the people who want the Confederate statues to stay up are racist, white supremacists and Nazis. EVEN IF we take your interpretation of things to be 100% accurate, Trump is still saying “there are some very fine Nazis and white supremacists and racists” and I’m sorry, but in my opinion there isn’t any such thing, except to other Nazis, white supremacists and/or racists. Nothing has escaped me. Certainly there are white supremacists and Nazis who wanted the statues to stay up. And of course these people are not “very fine”. But just because you wanted the statues to stay up does not necessarily make you a racist. But the racism of the participants is not the issue. Who Trump was to referring to is. You can see the press conference where he made his statement on [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaZR8E12bs). Trump makes a distinction between the neo-Nazis/white supremacists and people who were there simply to protest removal of the statues. If one wants to make the argument that _these_ protestors are _not_ very fine people, fine, but in Trump’s eyes, they are. This is not the same, obviously, as saying the separate, distinct group of neo-Nazis white supremacists are also very fine. I am aware that in today’s political climate, no opportunity to disparage the other side can be ignored. But each time you make false accusations, your credibility is diminished. As I said, there are so many things the left can attack Trump for. They don’t have to invent them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1811) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1813)