# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1816
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36305 "2019-09-06T21:56:59Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I was wondering what Jerry West did to deserve a medal (I’m sure he’s a decent human being, but…seriously?) This is as good a reason as any, in TrumpWorld. > > Donnie: if you’re thinking “I probably should’t say this”…don’t say it. > (Aw, fuckit. Why would he start acting like a grownup now?) Why would he start _thinking_ now? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36306 "2019-09-06T22:09:02Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I was wondering what Jerry West did to deserve a medal (I’m sure he’s a decent human being, but…seriously?) About 80% of the Medals of Freedom the vulgarian has doled out have gone to ex-sportsball guys. It’s another one of his “Presidential” firsts. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36307 "2019-09-06T22:16:21Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > What a child. And right on cue, today: [‘He’s losing his s—’: Trump’s advisers are increasingly worried about his mental state following days of erratic behavior](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-aides-worried-about-mental-state-alabama-hurricane-dorian-2019-9) > [@](#): > > \*President Donald Trump’s aides and confidants are increasingly worried about his mental state after days of erratic behavior and wild outbursts. > > \*“No one knows what to expect from him anymore,” one former White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal conversations about the president, told Insider. “His mood changes from one minute to the next based on some headline or tweet, and the next thing you know his entire schedule gets tossed out the window because he’s losing his s—.” > > \*Trump has spent the past several days fixated on his false claim that Alabama was going to be hit by Hurricane Dorian. He has also taken time to lob attacks at his perceived enemies, like the actress Debra Messing, former FBI Director James Comey, and the “LameStream media.” > > \*“He’s deteriorating in plain sight,” one Republican strategist who is in frequent contact with the White House told Insider on Friday. > > \ ***But one person who was close to Trump’s legal team during the Russia investigation told Insider his public statements were “nothing compared to what he’s like behind closed doors. He’s like a bull seeing red. There’s just no getting through to him, and you can kiss your plans for the day goodbye because you’re basically stuck looking after a 4-year-old now.”** [my emphasis] I guess Trump really is deteriorating. They used to describe him as an 8-year-old. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36308 "2019-09-06T22:18:30Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > And right on cue, today: > > [‘He’s losing his s—’: Trump’s advisers are increasingly worried about his mental state following days of erratic behavior](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-aides-worried-about-mental-state-alabama-hurricane-dorian-2019-9) > > [my emphasis] > > I guess Trump really is deteriorating. They used to describe him as an 8-year-old. I would like to see his entire staff quit and walk out _en masse_. That would amuse me. ---
**Author:** ![Swampwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36309 "2019-09-06T22:28:38Z")
Is it just me, or does every close-up of him show bloodshot eyes? Perhaps he’s just high as fuck. It would explain a lot, except for his inability to crack a smile. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36310 "2019-09-06T22:33:05Z")
Adderall (snortable amphetamine) is a harsh mistress. > **[Why Does Donald Trump Keep Sniffling? An Investigation](https://www.theroot.com/why-does-donald-trump-keep-sniffling-an-investigation-1831618251)** > > In the aftermath of Tuesday’s presidential address showcasing a litany of lies, hazy facts, accusations and demonizing, perhaps the biggest question raised by Donald Trump’s public plea to build the Great Wall of MAGA is: ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36311 "2019-09-06T23:29:45Z")
Idiotic voters and the GOP. They protected him when he makes fun of a handicapped person, they’ll protect him over Alabama and pretty much anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36312 "2019-09-07T00:03:35Z")
If the Haley rumours are correct I wonder if in a last ditch \*\*fuck you \*\* Pence invokes the 25th amendment. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36313 "2019-09-07T00:46:31Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > And right on cue, today: > > [‘He’s losing his s—’: Trump’s advisers are increasingly worried about his mental state following days of erratic behavior](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-aides-worried-about-mental-state-alabama-hurricane-dorian-2019-9) > > [my emphasis] > > I guess Trump really is deteriorating. They used to describe him as an 8-year-old. He’s always “losing his shit” and falling apart or whatever. I have no doubt he’s even more bananas in private than he is in public, but if this is supposed to hint that he might be headed to the funny farm any second I don’t buy it. That’ll never happen, even if at least the 25th should be invoked. I don’t know why they keep teasing those of us who would like to see him gone. Even if he were running around buck naked on the WH lawn, pubbies would cover for him. ETA: [https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/06/politics/noaa-tweet-nws-trump-alabama/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/06/politics/noaa-tweet-nws-trump-alabama/index.html) Apparently now he’s forced NOAA to say that he was right about Alabama. OMG. But he’s not vindicated because he forced a federal government agency to say what he wants them to say. He thinks he is but that’s because he’s an idiot. Sometimes I think I will just crawl under my bed and stay there forever. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36314 "2019-09-07T00:53:10Z")
Do they mean mental deterioration in this sense of the dementia? Maybe it is just increasing frustration from having to continually defend himself from all the stupid shit he keeps getting himself into and because he can’t just hereby order things to happen like he could before becoming President. Hasn’t he always been like this? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36315 "2019-09-07T00:54:50Z")
I’m trying to imagine how he would handle a real crisis, say something like the events of September 11, 2001. He would not do well. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36316 "2019-09-07T00:57:10Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Even if he were running around buck naked on the WH lawn, pubbies would cover for him. I envision him being chased by men in white coats with big butterfly nets. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36317 "2019-09-07T01:00:01Z")
Hard Brexit is on the horizon. People talk about China and trade and Trump in regards to the possibility of an upcoming recession, when in reality there’s just as good a chance that Boris Johnson will “lead” the UK over the cliff, taking the world with him. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36318 "2019-09-07T01:00:14Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I envision him being chased by men in white coats with big butterfly nets. “Flying water tankers. Must act quickly!” ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36319 "2019-09-07T01:03:39Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Y’all remember [_Sleeper_](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070707/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)? I wonder how the scene talking about the presidents would’ve gone had it been made today. Allen would not have to write fiction to make Miles Monroe’s commentary on our day sound ridiculous. Maybe we’ll end up cloning his hair. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36320 "2019-09-07T01:20:52Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > If the Haley rumours are correct I wonder if in a last ditch \*\*fuck you \*\* Pence invokes the 25th amendment. What rumor about Haley? ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36321 "2019-09-07T01:24:06Z")
[It seems the military is being subverted by Trump, also.](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/air-force-trump-scottish-retreat-1484337) Military aircraft are now refueling at a commercial airport instead of military ones, where the fuel is much less expensive in order to keep Trumps Scottish golf course from going out of business. The flight crews are staying at the golf course. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36322 "2019-09-07T01:26:10Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > What rumor about Haley? That Trump plans to dump Pence in favor of Nikki Haley as VP: > [@](#): > > The President had roused suspicion about his confidence in Pence when he hesitated earlier in June to endorse the vice president should he mount a presidential bid in 2024. > “Well, it is far too – look, I love Mike. We’re running again. But you’re talking about a long time,” Trump said on “Fox and Friends” in June. “So you can’t put me in that position. But I certainly would give it very strong consideration.” [https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/politics/nikki-haley-vice-president-rumors/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/politics/nikki-haley-vice-president-rumors/index.html) The implication is that Trump wouldn’t wholeheartedly endorse ‘Pence 2024’ because Trump was considering making sure Pence wouldn’t be in a position to run in 2024 (having been dumped in favor of Haley). But of course it’s also possible Trump was thinking ‘hey, I’m still going to be President in 2024 and beyond!’ ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36323 "2019-09-07T01:31:38Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > [It seems the military is being subverted by Trump, also.](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/air-force-trump-scottish-retreat-1484337) Military aircraft are now refueling at a commercial airport instead of military ones, where the fuel is much less expensive in order to keep Trumps Scottish golf course from going out of business. The flight crews are staying at the golf course. I seldom hear pundits or news people point out that there _are_ golf resorts and hotels that actually don’t need to be propped up in these ways…they don’t need to be subsidized by American taxpayers. There are some that do just fine without that kind of help. Some even operate at a profit! Funny that these thoughts never occur to Trump’s fans. His massive incompetence is just hand-waved away. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36324 "2019-09-07T01:41:22Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > [It seems the military is being subverted by Trump, also.](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/air-force-trump-scottish-retreat-1484337) Military aircraft are now refueling at a commercial airport instead of military ones, where the fuel is much less expensive in order to keep Trumps Scottish golf course from going out of business. The flight crews are staying at the golf course. Forgot to add 2 things: [ol] [li]The Pentagon has been refusing since May to answer Congress’s inquiries about why the military planes are using commercial airports and paying commercial prices for fuel instead of using military bases and paying (far lower) military prices for fuel.[/li][li]The President is trying to force Ukraine into investigating Joe Biden, and is using the aid that the Ukraine desperately needs, that we promised to Ukraine to help it defend itself against Russian aggression after the annexation of Crimea, to do so. In short, if the Ukraine doesn’t help Trump defeat Biden, the Ukraine faces the loss of more of its territory, and possibly its independence and existence, if they don’t play ball.[/li][/ol] There really aren’t any words left. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1815) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1817)