# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1824
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36465 "2019-09-13T13:42:45Z")
Lou Dobbs went off the rails years ago. I vaguely recall him being a fairly banal television presence ages ago and then suddenly he went all OMG IMMIGRANTS ARE GOING TO EAT OUR CHILDREN so naturally he loves Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36466 "2019-09-13T13:59:30Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > No, that’s one thing you can’t really blame him for. We’ve pretty much always thought that. Or at least since Kennedy died. Or sometime after then - maybe since Reagan? Or maybe since 1948 - that’s when “Ugly American” was coined. But in any case, it was solidly cemented in the Bush era. Ditto. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36467 "2019-09-13T14:10:20Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > The rest of the world sees us as a bunch of scared, racist misogynic religious assholes that don’t care about anyone but ourselves. This is Donald Trumps persona. It is Donald Trump. This is what he has done. It is his legacy. Well, except for the religious part. Trump has never worshipped anything but money. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36468 "2019-09-13T14:21:05Z")
Did Trump really go off on light bulbs? Is there a video? This seems like it would be “Fake News”, but with Trump it’s something he might have actually said, being an expert on everything. Because I saw this this morning: [‘I always look orange’: Trump says energy-efficient light bulbs not a good look for president](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/13/politics/trump-orange-light-bulbs/index.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump on Thursday evening claimed that energy efficient light bulbs make him look orange, one in a series of bizarre claims about green energy and climate conservation in remarks to Republican House members in Baltimore. > > “What’s with the lightbulb?” Trump asked introducing one of several environmentally related rants in his more than hour long remarks. He described energy efficient light bulbs as “many times more expensive than that old, incandescent bulb that worked very well” and “the lights no good.” > > “The bulb that we’re being forced to use, number one, to me, most importantly, I always look orange,” he said, to laughs from the audience. Does he not know he looks orange outside in the sunlight? Next up, banning all solar energy. Trump’s concern is not cost or efficiency of the bulbs, but “number one” they make him look orange? More like one more thing Obama to undo and piss off/troll people who care about reducing energy use. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36469 "2019-09-13T14:25:37Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Well, except for the religious part. Trump has never worshipped anything but money. Wasn’t talking about Trump there. I was talking about the right wing religious wingnuts in general. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36470 "2019-09-13T14:28:16Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Did Trump really go off on light bulbs? Is there a video? This seems like it would be “Fake News”, but with Trump it’s something he might have actually said, being an expert on everything. Because I saw this this morning: > > [‘I always look orange’: Trump says energy-efficient light bulbs not a good look for president](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/13/politics/trump-orange-light-bulbs/index.html) > > Does he not know he looks orange outside in the sunlight? Next up, banning all solar energy. > > Trump’s concern is not cost or efficiency of the bulbs, but “number one” they make him look orange? More like one more thing Obama to undo and piss off/troll people who care about reducing energy use. I think he was trying to make a joke. Cause nothings funnier to Republicans than fucking over the environment for a buck. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36471 "2019-09-13T14:41:57Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Did Trump really go off on light bulbs? Is there a video? This seems like it would be “Fake News”, but with Trump it’s something he might have actually said, being an expert on everything. Because I saw this this morning: > > [‘I always look orange’: Trump says energy-efficient light bulbs not a good look for president](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/13/politics/trump-orange-light-bulbs/index.html) > > Does he not know he looks orange outside in the sunlight? Next up, banning all solar energy. > > Trump’s concern is not cost or efficiency of the bulbs, but “number one” they make him look orange? More like one more thing Obama to undo and piss off/troll people who care about reducing energy use. Well, the more bizarre thing is that the old incandescent bulbs that everyone seems to miss would make him look even more orange. That main complaint about the newer bulbs was the more bluish light they give off, and that they didn’t have the “warmth” of the incandescents (which were typically at 3200K color temperature or lower.) Now, of course, you can get light bulbs in all sorts of color temperatures, incandescent or LED, but while I did find the first generation of CFLs annoying, the current generation of LEDs put out nice light to my eyes, especially the “soft white” (~3000K). And that’s way more thought that I should have given Trump’s stupid joke. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36472 "2019-09-13T14:46:25Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I think he was trying to make a joke. Cause nothings funnier to Republicans than fucking over the environment for a buck. Ah, the keen and witty humor that Donald Trump famously is known for. Hard to tell by reading his comments. Although, I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump believes this on some level. He’s all about his public image. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36473 "2019-09-13T16:01:30Z")
Maybe Trump should put some of those lightbulbs in a steak and try to drink it through a straw. That’ll show those environmentalists. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36474 "2019-09-13T16:10:32Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Well, the more bizarre thing is that the old incandescent bulbs that everyone seems to miss would make him look even more orange. That main complaint about the newer bulbs was the more bluish light they give off, and that they didn’t have the “warmth” of the incandescents (which were typically at 3200K color temperature or lower.) Now, of course, you can get light bulbs in all sorts of color temperatures, incandescent or LED, but while I did find the first generation of CFLs annoying, the current generation of LEDs put out nice light to my eyes, especially the “soft white” (~3000K). > > And that’s way more thought that I should have given Trump’s stupid joke. Even the 3000K LEDs can have poor colour rendition, particularly in the red/orange part of the spectrum. CRI (colour rendition index) is the specification that tells you if an LED is providing proper full-spectrum light. Low CRI LEDs make you look green(ish), not orange. Sadly, it can be hard to figure out which bulbs have better CRI. Many manufacturers do not put that specification on the box. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36475 "2019-09-13T16:20:25Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I think he was trying to make a joke. Cause nothings funnier to Republicans than fucking over the environment for a buck. That’s exactly it. To Republicans, anything that benefits the environment (like LED light bulbs and paper straws) is the butt of a joke. Har har. And to Trump, environmental regulations are associated with Obama, and are therefore anathema. If Obama had been a duck hunter Trump would have all wetlands declared National Monuments. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36476 "2019-09-13T16:20:38Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > L"Sunshine beaming throughout the place"??? I don’t care where you work. If you describe it that way, something’s wrong. Well naturally, if you think the sun shines out of Trump’s ass, you’re going to perceive “sunshine beaming throughout the place” wherever Trump is showing his ass. And is there anywhere he doesn’t? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36477 "2019-09-13T17:17:19Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Lou Dobbs says The White House is a Great Place to Work! Are you sure you spelled “Loud Obbs” correctly? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36478 "2019-09-13T18:30:16Z")
Ivanka says she gets her moral compass from her father. That explains a lot. > **[Ivanka tells donors she got her moral compass from her dad](https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/09/13/ivanka-trump-donors-1488704)** > > Trump’s family and allies are getting personal with donors, dishing out morsels about life in the White House. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36479 "2019-09-13T18:31:47Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Even the 3000K LEDs can have poor colour rendition, particularly in the red/orange part of the spectrum. CRI (colour rendition index) is the specification that tells you if an LED is providing proper full-spectrum light. Low CRI LEDs make you look green(ish), not orange. Sadly, it can be hard to figure out which bulbs have better CRI. Many manufacturers do not put that specification on the box. I just always assumed 3000K light sources have poor color rendition as a rule, given their color temperature as compared with daylight (5000-6000K). I am familiar with CRI and even have one (halogen, I believe) 5000K light with a CRI of 99 for color evaluating photographic prints. The “soft white” bulbs I have in the house make everything look yellowish-to-orangish to me, just like the old incandescent lights did. It’s pretty obvious if you happen to have a room with a daylight balanced bulb installed, and then another with a tungsten light. The latter is noticeably orange to my eyes. (Though if you don’t have that reference point, your eyes do “color correct.”) But I see now that CRI is a separate issue still. I just always assumed that was for daylight balanced bulbs, but I guess not. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36480 "2019-09-13T18:32:53Z")
The mayor of Prospect Park, NJ says he was pulled aside by customs, asked if he had met with any terrorists or went to places where there were terrorists. They then kept his phone for 12 days. His name? Mohamed Khairullah. > **[Muslim N.J. Mayor Says CBP Agents Asked if He knows Any Terrorists During JFK...](https://www.thedailybeast.com/mohamed-khairullah-muslim-new-jersey-mayor-asked-if-he-knows-any-terrorists-during-jfk-interrogation)** > > Mohamed Khairullah said his phone was confiscated for 12 days after the three-hour security screening. “It’s flat-out insulting,” he said. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36481 "2019-09-13T18:35:14Z")
To be fair, he was from New Jersey. Lot of bad hombres there. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36482 "2019-09-13T18:45:32Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > That’s exactly it. To Republicans, anything that benefits the environment (like LED light bulbs and paper straws) is the butt of a joke. Har har. > > And to Trump, environmental regulations are associated with Obama, and are therefore anathema. If Obama had been a duck hunter Trump would have all wetlands declared National Monuments. Obama should have thought of that before he left office! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36483 "2019-09-13T20:13:04Z")
I don’t recall Obama having a “favorite dictator”, and I’m sure Republicans would have lost their minds if he did. But, rest assured that there will be no comments from the GOP about Trump referring to Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi as "[my favorite dictator"](https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-awaiting-egyptian-counterpart-at-summit-called-out-for-my-favorite-dictator-11568403645?tesla=y&mod=e2twp). This is fine. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36484 "2019-09-13T20:18:54Z")
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