# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1830
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36585 "2019-09-18T06:05:11Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > They’d open the borders? I don’t follow but tbh I think it’s just as well you don’t explain it ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36586 "2019-09-18T06:12:31Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Imagine, for a moment, a party that was actively trying to destroy the country. Actively trying to get as many people as possible killed. Actively trying to cause the apocalypse. > > How would their actions look different from the current republican party? They wouldn’t be trying to make a personal profit off of what they were doing. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36587 "2019-09-18T06:36:25Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > What is the stated rationale for this, even if it’s something completely ridiculous. Which it surely is. Why don’t the Pubbies like this? It’s only one state out of approximately 48 or 49 or something. Oh, Republicans know for a fact that there are 50 states. By knowing that, they can continue to accuse Obama of being a imbecile when he stated that there were 57. Of course, for all that they can count states, Republicans cannot seem to count the number of Trump’s golf trips as opposed to Obama’s. They seem to think that Obama golfed more, but I have a feeling Republican numbers are correct when they want them to be, but incorrect when it interferes with their vision. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36588 "2019-09-18T11:05:45Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > How does climbing into a Klein bottle cause someone to turn into a Klein bottle? They become similarly in-Kleined. On auto emissions, the automakers are unlikely to relax standards in new builds just because of this, knowing full well that 1) a change in administration could result in the standards being tightened again, so it would cost them less in the longer term to keep improving emission standards, and 2) it’s still a good marketing point. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36589 "2019-09-18T11:09:36Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > I… and _then_ heads will roll in a most Halfordian way. Speaking of good jibs and cuts! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36590 "2019-09-18T12:23:51Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Oh, Republicans know for a fact that there are 50 states. By knowing that, they can continue to accuse Obama of being a imbecile when he stated that there were 57. > > Of course, for all that they can count states, Republicans cannot seem to count the number of Trump’s golf trips as opposed to Obama’s. They seem to think that Obama golfed more, but I have a feeling Republican numbers are correct when they want them to be, but incorrect when it interferes with their vision. Everybody knows that on 9/11, President Obama was on the golf course instead of presidentin’ in the White House Ha! “White” House! They call it that 'cause it’s just for white people. > [@Gyrate](#): > > …On auto emissions, the automakers are unlikely to relax standards in new builds just because of this, knowing full well that 1) a change in administration could result in the standards being tightened again, so it would cost them less in the longer term to keep improving emission standards, and 2) it’s still a good marketing point. When someone spills the beans to Former President Trump\* that the car makers are doing this, he’ll probably shut them down and nationalize the auto manufacturing business. Then he can turn the clock back to the 1950s and make auto workers happy again. Win-win! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36591 "2019-09-18T12:40:09Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Or maybe, just maybe, it’s like he’s an ourobos but is eating himself foot first. It’s a fucking miracle, though, how often he puts his foot in his mouth, what with his head so far up his ass. Now I’m thinking of an incident in Heinlein’s _Glory Road_ where “Oscar” and Star, the two protagonists, get into a fight with what amounts to an ogre. The two have it pretty well tied in knots when Oscar – mainly to stop the screaming – shoves the ogre’s foot into its own mouth. It disappears in up to the knee so he jams the other leg in, too. Then the two of them keep pushing and rolling and the ogre gets smaller and smaller until they wind up with just some grease on their hands. “Where’d he go?” “Don’t think about it too much.” If only. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36592 "2019-09-18T13:44:15Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Now I’m thinking of an incident in Heinlein’s _Glory Road_ where “Oscar” and Star, the two protagonists, get into a fight with what amounts to an ogre. The two have it pretty well tied in knots when Oscar – mainly to stop the screaming – shoves the ogre’s foot into its own mouth. It disappears in up to the knee so he jams the other leg in, too. Then the two of them keep pushing and rolling and the ogre gets smaller and smaller until they wind up with just some grease on their hands. > > “Where’d he go?” > > “Don’t think about it too much.” > > If only. Like the guy who ran around in ever-decreasing concentric circles until he disappeared up his own asshole. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36593 "2019-09-18T14:07:50Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > …When someone spills the beans to Former President Trump\* that the car makers are doing this, he’ll probably shut them down and nationalize the auto manufacturing business. Then he can turn the clock back to the 1950s and make auto workers happy again. Win-win! Automakers should band together, buy some air time and tell it like it is “Donald Trump, The President of the United States, is trying to poison you. We are not going to let that happen and will continue to follow higher emissions standards. Every one of us.” ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36594 "2019-09-18T15:41:01Z")
With the departure of John Mitnick, DHS General Counsel… Now running DHS: [del]Acting Secretary Acting Deputy Secretary ACTING GENERAL COUNSEL Acting Under Secretary for Management Acting CBP Commissioner Acting ICE Director Acting USCIS DIrector Acting FEMA Administrator[/del] Stephen Miller ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36595 "2019-09-18T15:57:37Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Automakers should band together, buy some air time and tell it like it is “Donald Trump, The President of the United States, is trying to poison you. We are not going to let that happen and will continue to follow higher emissions standards. Every one of us.” At this point, if automakers have already tooled their factories for the higher emission standards, it would make more sense to just stay there. Stricter regulations undoubtedly will return so why go through the hassle to undo what they’ve done only to redo it again in the probably not distant future. ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36596 "2019-09-18T16:02:39Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > On auto emissions, the automakers are unlikely to relax standards in new builds just because of this, knowing full well that 1) a change in administration could result in the standards being tightened again, so it would cost them less in the longer term to keep improving emission standards, and 2) it’s still a good marketing point. I know I should know this or I could look it up if I weren’t feeling so lazy today, but what’s the advantage to the typical MAGAt of relaxing the standards? My only guess is that it would somehow lower the price of a new car, but given the re-engineering and re-tooling and the like, that’s not too likely in the short term (meaning before the 2020 election). ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36597 "2019-09-18T16:08:24Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > At this point, if automakers have already tooled their factories for the higher emission standards, it would make more sense to just stay there. Stricter regulations undoubtedly will return so why go through the hassle to undo what they’ve done only to redo it again in the probably not distant future. Of course. They wouldn’t be doing it for purely idealistic reasons. But they could point out Trumps truly evil ambitions. Well, not even ambitions really. He’s doing it out of spite just like a 5 year old would. Ten bucks says the moron in the WH will bring up what clean air and water we have so we don’t need these expensive regulations. Ya see, he can’t figure out how to do anything that is beneficial to anyone but himself. So in a deluded attempt to try to make himself look ‘better’ he trys to destroy the goodness of others. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36598 "2019-09-18T16:14:38Z")
> [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > I know I should know this or I could look it up if I weren’t feeling so lazy today, but what’s the advantage to the typical MAGAt of relaxing the standards? My only guess is that it would somehow lower the price of a new car, but given the re-engineering and re-tooling and the like, that’s not too likely in the short term (meaning before the 2020 election). Librul tears? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36599 "2019-09-18T16:24:47Z")
> [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > I know I should know this or I could look it up if I weren’t feeling so lazy today, but what’s the advantage to the typical MAGAt of relaxing the standards? My only guess is that it would somehow lower the price of a new car, but given the re-engineering and re-tooling and the like, that’s not too likely in the short term (meaning before the 2020 election). That’s exactly what he’s claiming in this morning’s round of Tweetjaculations, along with the bizarre claim that this will also make cars much safer. To which I can only say “Whadafuk?” ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36600 "2019-09-18T16:36:12Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > along with the bizarre claim that this will also make cars much safer. To which I can only say “Whadafuk?” That one is easy. The only way to meet the fuel economy standard is to replace good American steel with tissue paper to reduce weight. If instead the auto makers could weld an I-beam cage around each car, no one would get hurt. Of course, that is in tension with the reduced cost bit, what with the steel tariffs, but I’m certain it will all work out. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36601 "2019-09-18T16:44:34Z")
Trumpelthinskin [starts a dick-measuring contest with a woman and loses](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/17/elizabeth-warren-crowd-size-1500370): > [@](#): > > “Certainly, if I went to Manhattan, if I went there — No. 1, [Warren] didn’t have 20,000 people and No. 2, I think anybody would get a good crowd there,” [Trump] told reporters on Air Force One, according to a pool report. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36602 "2019-09-18T16:47:23Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Trumpelthinskin [starts a dick-measuring contest with a woman and loses](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/17/elizabeth-warren-crowd-size-1500370): Oh, he’d get at LEAST 20,000. And we’d all bring whatever rotten fruits and vegetables we could get together at the last minute. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36603 "2019-09-18T17:02:41Z")
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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36604 "2019-09-18T17:22:06Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Oh, he’d get at LEAST 20,000. And we’d all bring whatever rotten fruits and vegetables we could get together at the last minute. And the blimp. Please bring the blimp. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1829) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1831)