# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36665 "2019-09-19T16:06:37Z")

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The early reports from reporters standing outside the briefing on the whistleblower is that the individuals coming out, R and D, are not saying anything other than “no comment”. No grandstanding. No nothing.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36666 "2019-09-19T16:34:36Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Any truth to the rumor that Trump is ordering the railroads to bring back steam locomotives that burn lots of that sweet, sweet clean coal?

I haven’t heard this one. Are you sure you’re not thinking of the aircraft carrier catapults? They’re going to a new design that uses electromagnetics, but I’ve heard Trump doesn’t like that and wants them to go back to using steam-powered catapults.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36667 "2019-09-19T16:57:35Z")

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[Tragic but true.](https://thehill.com/policy/defense/333040-trump-wants-goddamned-steam-catapults-on-new-aircraft-carriers)

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> “I said, ‘You don’t use steam anymore for catapult?’ ‘No sir.’ I said, ‘Ah, how is it working?’ ‘Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn’t have the power. You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going and steam’s going all over the place, there’s planes thrown in the air,’” Trump said in the interview.
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> “It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said—and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said, ‘What system are you going to be—‘ ‘Sir, we’re staying with digital.’ I said, ‘No you’re not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good.’

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36668 "2019-09-19T17:02:29Z")

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I would like to know what crazy concept of the meaning of “digital” he has in his tiny little brain…

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36669 "2019-09-19T17:20:08Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> I would like to know what crazy concept of the meaning of “digital” he has in his tiny little brain…

Finger banging Russian hookers

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36670 "2019-09-19T17:53:13Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> I would like to know what crazy concept of the meaning of “digital” he has in his tiny little brain…

> [@zoid](#):
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> Finger banging Russian hookers

Not to worry. They didn’t feel a thing.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36671 "2019-09-19T18:06:16Z")

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Individual 1 was blabbering all kinds of information about the properties of his special WALL. The general he was standing next to was trying frantically to get him to quit revealing classified details.

> **[At border, general reminds Trump to stop discussing sensitive info](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/border-general-reminds-trump-stop-discussing-sensitive-info-msna1280186)**
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> "Sir, there could be some merit in not discussing that" is one of those great phrases that's emblematic of a larger truth.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36672 "2019-09-19T18:10:45Z")

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I like how he said it was extensively tested by 20 mountain climbers and they couldn’t climb it.

None of them tried a ladder?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36673 "2019-09-19T18:54:18Z")

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Fox & Friends used to photo of Individual 1 with money falling out of his pocket as an example of what a remarkable person he is, because he tips the hotel staff, something that “most people don’t know they’re supposed to do.”

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36674 "2019-09-19T19:14:53Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [Tragic but true.](https://thehill.com/policy/defense/333040-trump-wants-goddamned-steam-catapults-on-new-aircraft-carriers)
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> > “I said, ‘You don’t use steam anymore for catapult?’ ‘No sir.’ I said, ‘Ah, how is it working?’ ‘Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn’t have the power. You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going and steam’s going all over the place, there’s planes thrown in the air,’” Trump said in the interview.
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> > “It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said—and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said, ‘What system are you going to be—‘ ‘Sir, we’re staying with digital.’ I said, ‘No you’re not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good.’

The “Sir” is one of Trump’s ‘tells’ when he is lying. Another ‘tell’ that he’s lying is that he’s speaking.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36675 "2019-09-19T19:34:45Z")

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Current rumors are the whistleblower complaint is that Trump was blackmailing Ukraine into sabotaging Biden’s campaign.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36676 "2019-09-19T19:42:16Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Current rumors are the whistleblower complaint is that Trump was blackmailing Ukraine into sabotaging Biden’s campaign.

Didn’t we know that?

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36677 "2019-09-19T19:43:16Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Current rumors are the whistleblower complaint is that Trump was blackmailing Ukraine into sabotaging Biden’s campaign.

CNN is just reporting that there were multiple instances of whistleblower concern, not just one phone call with a “promise” of something.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36678 "2019-09-19T19:51:12Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> CNN is just reporting that there were multiple instances of whistleblower concern, not just one phone call with a “promise” of something.

Update on the CNN website:

[The latest on the Trump whistleblower mystery](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-intelligence-whistleblower-complaint/index.html)

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> W **histleblower concerns were over multiple acts involving Trump, sources say**
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> The intelligence inspector general told the House intelligence committee today that the whistleblower complaint raised issues with multiple instances involving President Trump, sources tell CNN.
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> Inspector General Michael Atkinson did not get into the substance of the complaint, the source said. CNN had earlier reported, citing a source familiar, that the complaint dealt with a phone call between the President and a foreign leader but the inspector general suggested there was more than one action.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36679 "2019-09-19T19:56:53Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Didn’t we know that?

Big difference between speculating that Trump delayed military aid for corrupt reasons and his saying so on tape.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36680 "2019-09-19T20:03:14Z")

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Obama called foreign leaders too. So there.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36681 "2019-09-19T20:15:05Z")

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I love that [Trump doesn’t know what the word “ultimate” means](https://youtu.be/WZcWFa51aT0?t=294).

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36682 "2019-09-19T21:54:23Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I haven’t heard this one. Are you sure you’re not thinking of the aircraft carrier catapults? They’re going to a new design that uses electromagnetics, but I’ve heard Trump doesn’t like that and wants them to go back to using steam-powered catapults.

Sorry, I’m afraid you’ve been slightly whooshed, but yeah, it’s a riff on that.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36683 "2019-09-19T21:58:03Z")

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The ACTING DNI Joseph Maguire is REFUSING to divulge ANY information or cooperate with the House Intelligence Committee.

It looks like ONCE AGAIN, the Orange Shitstain is betraying his country and ONCE AGAIN his toadies in the Retrumpican party are complicit.

This is treason.

AGAIN.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36684 "2019-09-19T22:09:26Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I love that [Trump doesn’t know what the word “ultimate” means](https://youtu.be/WZcWFa51aT0?t=294).

Can you give details? Some of us aren’t in a position to watch a video.

However, this comment was left on that page… I really like it. 🙂

> [@](#):
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> Trump has two parts of brain, ‘left’ and ‘right’.  
> In the left side, there’s nothing right.  
> In the right side, there’s nothing left.

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