# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1839
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36765 "2019-09-21T15:22:22Z")
> [@mjmlabs](#): > > Well, Speaker Pelosi told NPR that we should pass legislation explicitly permitting the indictment of a sitting President: [https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/politics/nancy-pelosi-olc-opinion/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/politics/nancy-pelosi-olc-opinion/index.html) > > As to impeachment, I tend to agree with the Speaker: Trump is Br’er Rabbit-ing the House into impeaching him so that A) if there’s enough time for the Senate to acquit, he claim “TOTAL EXONERATION” before the 2020 election, and B) even if there isn’t enough time for a Senate vote, he can put his “poor little put-upon President” schtick on an endless loop, whining about how The Big Meanie Democwats keep picking on him, “SO UNFAIR! SAD!” Investigate, yes, but don’t let him goad you into letting the Senate issue him a free pass. Well, right _now_ he’s deriving all the political benefit that he could from an actual impeachment process without having to fact the negatives of an actual impeachment process, it’s kind of win/win for him right now. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36766 "2019-09-21T15:34:33Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by\*\* Vinyl Turnip \*\* > Reporter: That sofa you showed us today, it looked like it almost had, like, shit on it… > > POTUS: I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know. > [@](#): > > [@simster](#): > > \ > _ **POTUS** _: Of course I shit on the sofa, it was a wonderful shit and made the sofa more memorable. > _ **POTUS Atty** _: Its not illegal to shit on a sofa, even if he didn’t not do it there. Later that same day _ **Reporter 1** _ Next we’ll be discussing the colour and texture of the shit on the sofa. How does it compare to previous Trump shits? **Reporter 2** Tune in next, when we’ll be having a panel discussion talking about exactly what this new sofa shit means. What is Trump trying to accomplish and what is the meaning behind these furniture shits? Me: Why are we discussing shitting on furniture like it’s a normal thing to do? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36767 "2019-09-21T15:52:47Z")
Followed closely by … Joe Biden once took a big stinky shit - in a TOILET … and didn’t flush it! Does this spell the end of the Biden campaign? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36768 "2019-09-21T16:17:08Z")
Later that week: Trump supporters are all shitting on their own furniture “Just to piss them Libtards off” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36769 "2019-09-21T16:26:40Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > … > Me: Why are we discussing shitting on furniture like it’s a normal thing to do? [The New Normal](https://imgur.com/vQ7gDr4) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36770 "2019-09-21T18:30:59Z")
Individual 1 said that they brought in champion mountain climbers to try to climb WALL and they couldn’t do it. Champion mountain climbers say they can’t find anybody they know who was called in to try it. > **[Trump Said This Wall Can’t Be Climbed. Professional Climbers Say He’s ‘Full...](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-said-this-wall-cant-be-climbed-professional-climbers-say-hes-full-of-sht)** > > President Trump claimed that a fleet of champion climbers tested his border wall. The sport’s top athletes have no idea what the hell Trump is talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36771 "2019-09-21T18:56:00Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 said that they brought in champion mountain climbers to try to climb WALL and they couldn’t do it. Champion mountain climbers say they can’t find anybody they know who was called in to try it. > [Trump Said This Wall Can’t Be Climbed. Professional Climbers Say He’s ‘Full of Sh\*t’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-said-this-wall-cant-be-climbed-professional-climbers-say-hes-full-of-sht) Well, there was this one guy, mountain climber kind of guy. He was really big and strong. Tough guy. Really great guy. And he said to Trump: “Sir, Mister President sir, I have really tried to climb this wall and I just can’t. It’s the best wall I have ever seen, sir.” And he had a tear in his eye as he spoke. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36772 "2019-09-21T20:06:28Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Well, there was this one guy, mountain climber kind of guy. He was really big and strong. Tough guy. Really great guy. And he said to Trump: “Sir, Mister President sir, I have really tried to climb this wall and I just can’t. It’s the best wall I have ever seen, sir.” And he had a tear in his eye as he spoke. And that man grew up to be none other than Albert Einstein. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36773 "2019-09-21T20:07:22Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Well, there was this one guy, mountain climber kind of guy. He was really big and strong. Tough guy. Really great guy. And he said to Trump: “Sir, Mister President sir, I have really tried to climb this wall and I just can’t. It’s the best wall I have ever seen, sir.” And he had a tear in his eye as he spoke. Some people say that ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36774 "2019-09-21T20:07:39Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > And that man grew up to be none other than Albert Einstein. I love his movies! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36775 "2019-09-21T20:16:19Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 said that they brought in champion mountain climbers to try to climb WALL and they couldn’t do it. Champion mountain climbers say they can’t find anybody they know who was called in to try it. > [Trump Said This Wall Can’t Be Climbed. Professional Climbers Say He’s ‘Full of Sh\*t’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-said-this-wall-cant-be-climbed-professional-climbers-say-hes-full-of-sht) I used to be on the Colorado Ground Search and Rescue team. From what I’ve seen of this wall it could be climbed with whatever anyone had in their bag and about 100’ of rope. You can make ascenders out of 5mil rope if you don’t have any actual ascenders. It’s simple and common. A rope that climbs a rope. Works well. Just more bullshit from Trump which is to be expected. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36776 "2019-09-21T20:31:28Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > And that man grew up to be none other than Albert Einstein. Einstein, you say? He’s doing that thing with Frederick Douglass, last I heard. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36777 "2019-09-21T23:42:29Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 said that they brought in champion mountain climbers to try to climb WALL and they couldn’t do it. Champion mountain climbers say they can’t find anybody they know who was called in to try it. > [Trump Said This Wall Can’t Be Climbed. Professional Climbers Say He’s ‘Full of Sh\*t’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-said-this-wall-cant-be-climbed-professional-climbers-say-hes-full-of-sht) [Here’s one.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_goat#/media/File:Mountain_Goat,_Enchantments_Basin.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36778 "2019-09-22T00:51:49Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Trump is the asshole in your rental house that you can’t kick out. > > Doesn’t pay rent, peeded on the carpets, but **he has a lease, so you have to go through the gears of justice, as slow as they turn.** > > He has some buddies that harass the neighbors, but the cops never come because Trump knows the chief of police. And meanwhile about a quarter of the people you know won’t shut up about how you’re a fool to go through the gears of justice, because you could just impeach the guy and then he’d be gone! And about three quarters of the people you know tune out the second you mention any of this because it bores them silly. They could be watching the Kardashians or some sports event or doing just about anything else, really. And they can’t be convinced that there’s anything actually objectionable about your tenant. I mean, how could he even have become a tenant in the first place, if there is really anything out of the ordinary about him? You’re over-reacting! my emphasis ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36779 "2019-09-22T01:25:44Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > And meanwhile about a quarter of the people you know won’t shut up about how you’re a fool to go through the gears of justice, because you could just impeach the guy and then he’d be gone! > > And about three quarters of the people you know tune out the second you mention any of this because it bores them silly. They could be watching the Kardashians or some sports event or doing just about anything else, really. And they can’t be convinced that there’s anything actually objectionable about your tenant. I mean, how could he even have become a tenant in the first place, if there is really anything out of the ordinary about him? You’re over-reacting! > > my emphasis Plus, they hate landlords and they love watching sometime stick it to a landlord. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36780 "2019-09-22T02:23:29Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 said that they brought in champion mountain climbers to try to climb WALL and they couldn’t do it. Champion mountain climbers say they can’t find anybody they know who was called in to try it. > [Trump Said This Wall Can’t Be Climbed. Professional Climbers Say He’s ‘Full of Sh\*t’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-said-this-wall-cant-be-climbed-professional-climbers-say-hes-full-of-sht) I didn’t even know that mountain climbing was a competitive sport. Who designates the champions at it? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36781 "2019-09-22T02:27:17Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I didn’t even know that mountain climbing was a competitive sport. Who designates the champions at it? The King, duh. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36782 "2019-09-22T12:11:57Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Donald Trump has been played like a cheep fiddle and is in WAY over his head. A narcistic moron that will never ask for advice, change his mind or admit that he may have been wrong. A stupid con man that has been conned. > > Oh he makes a few hundred grand on his hotel schemes, all while giving the US away to the lowest bidder. But so far as he’s concerned, that makes him a winner. It’s money in his pocket and to hell with the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36783 "2019-09-22T13:12:17Z")
[“Idling in neutral”](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/19/us/politics/trump-indecision.html) > [@](#): > > …But idling in neutral is not something the president is doing only on guns. In discussions with his staff, Mr. Trump has made clear he wants to accomplish something big, but seems stymied as to what it might be, according to interviews with a half-dozen aides and advisers. In the meantime, he has remained on the sidelines as divisive issues are debated and is treading water even on possible staff changes he wants to make, for fear of how things “play.” > Sign Up for On Politics With Lisa Lerer > > A spotlight on the people reshaping our politics. A conversation with voters across the country. And a guiding hand through the endless news cycle, telling you what you really need to know. > > On the international stage, Mr. Trump has seemed most conflicted about how to respond to Iran’s attack on oil facilities in Saudi Arabia, threatening to order “the ultimate option” one moment, and then warning that getting involved in Middle East wars was a mistake the next. > > And the lack of direction is apparent even in the message he delivers at his campaign rallies. With little in the way of policy proposals or a larger vision, he has been telling crowds from New Hampshire to South Carolina, “You have no choice but to vote for me,” and has been promoting his new slogan, “Keep America Great.” > … If he wants to “accomplish something big,” he should take John Dean’s suggestion: > [@](#): > > John Dean @JohnWDean 6h > The biggest and finest thing Trump could do for the nation and a positive lasting legacy is resign and leave office at the end of the year! The reasons are obvious even to him I suspect. He can pardon himself, and go spend quality time with his young son! If he resigned, that’s something the nation would always remember and always be grateful for! He can go down in history as having made the Ultimate Sacrifice for the good of the country, namely. Maybe someone can design a medal for him and there can be a big (YUGE!) presentation ceremony in the Rose Garden. He can present it to himself, like Napoleon. I can see the photographs now… Melania with a big smile on her face, and in the background, a moving van emptying out the family quarters. Yeah. That’s what he should do. I have a big smile on my face just imagining it. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36784 "2019-09-22T14:44:18Z")
Heck, if he did that then he would be more deserving of a Nobel peace prize than Obama. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1838) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1840)