# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36845 "2019-09-23T21:15:12Z")

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Unfair! Cried the little man baby who never actually worked a day in his life.

He’s going to scream and cry for so long that eventually someone will probably arrange to give him a Nobel. Maybe it could be for holding a grudge the longest.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36846 "2019-09-23T21:15:50Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> We here have always known that Trump is consumed with rage that Obama has a Nobel Prize, and he doesn’t. He’s been gnashing his teeth and rending his garments and banging his tiny fists for 10 years now…at least, that’s what we strongly suspect.
> 
> [Well, today he said so out loud.](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-complains-deserves-nobel-prize-181502219.html)

Maybe they can give him a Nobel Participation Prize. He could use a Sharpie to cross out ‘Participation’ so that he can say he received the Nobel Prize.

Oh, wait… He’d actually have to participate.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36847 "2019-09-23T21:48:48Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> We here have always known that Trump is consumed with rage that Obama has a Nobel Prize, and he doesn’t. He’s been gnashing his teeth and rending his garments and banging his tiny fists for 10 years now…at least, that’s what we strongly suspect.
> 
> [Well, today he said so out loud.](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-complains-deserves-nobel-prize-181502219.html)

Scene I’d like to see in 2021:

1. Trump sees a news report about President Warren being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

2. Trump throws a tantrum and starts screaming and throwing things at the TV.

3. Trump loses his prison TV lounge privileges.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36848 "2019-09-23T21:53:38Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> And the likelihood of them following through on this is what… 5%?.. zero?.. C’mon people. :rolleyes: How many times has he pulled shit like this? Former President Trump\* is holding the football. Don’t make a run at it.

Hey, I’m sure Trump will release the transcript right after he releases his tax returns. That was a campaign promise and he’s kept more promises than he’s made!

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36849 "2019-09-23T22:19:01Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Maybe they can give him a Nobel Participation Prize.

Nobel Reparation Prize?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36850 "2019-09-23T23:41:26Z")

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Why doesn’t he just use the crack team of investigators he sent to Hawaii?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36851 "2019-09-24T01:11:28Z")

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[Apparently, the UN air conditioning works like a charm](https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/ivanka-trump?family=editorial&phrase=ivanka%20trump&sort=best) :eek:

[Detail view](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/white-house-advisor-ivanka-trump-arrives-at-a-meeting-on-news-photo/1170490702).

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**Author:** ![poweroftheglory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@poweroftheglory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/poweroftheglory)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36852 "2019-09-24T01:23:37Z")

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Are any Liberals still deluded enough to believe that Trump will ever be held accountable for his crimes? Come 2021 when a Democrat gets in the White House again it’s going to be the same “Need to look forward not past” BS again. Then in 2029 when Trump’s heart explodes from the decades of devouring McDonald’s. Trump will be rehabilitated in the media and anyone who objects will be told about the need for “decorum” and while Trump was flawed he was still better than President Tom Cotton.

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**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36853 "2019-09-24T01:30:45Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> That was your one hundred and first post. In sixteen years. :eek:

… and also in the last two weeks. (I’ve been busy. I’m somewhat less busy now.)

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36854 "2019-09-24T01:30:57Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> [Apparently, the UN air conditioning works like a charm](https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/ivanka-trump?family=editorial&phrase=ivanka%20trump&sort=best) :eek:
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> [Detail view](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/white-house-advisor-ivanka-trump-arrives-at-a-meeting-on-news-photo/1170490702).

“Hello, Daddy!”

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36855 "2019-09-24T01:44:49Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> [Apparently, the UN air conditioning works like a charm](https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/ivanka-trump?family=editorial&phrase=ivanka%20trump&sort=best) :eek:
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> [Detail view](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/white-house-advisor-ivanka-trump-arrives-at-a-meeting-on-news-photo/1170490702).

So apparently she is both human and mammalian. Good to know, I wonder about that family sometimes.

Otherwise, how is it relevant the the general clusterfuckery of the administration?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36856 "2019-09-24T01:57:02Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Scene I’d like to see in 2021:
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> 1. Trump sees a news report about President Warren being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
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> 2. Trump throws a tantrum and starts screaming and throwing things at the TV.
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> 3. Trump loses his prison TV lounge privileges.

_{Insert Very big HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY Face Here.}_

> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Hey, I’m sure Trump will release the transcript right after he releases his tax returns. That was a campaign promise and he’s kept more promises than he’s made!

I’ve a Canadian friend who said, in all seriousness, to me, “Well, Trump’s trying to keep his campaign promises, so that’s a good thing”.

No, it’s not! Keeping horrible promises is, in fact, also a horrible thing.

> [@mjmlabs](#):
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> … and also in the last two weeks. (I’ve been busy. I’m somewhat less busy now.)

Reminds me of a line in a _Law & Order_ episode, where someone got out of jail and went to a parking garage to retrieve a car that had been parked there for years. The attendant said, “This ticket is six years old”. (I don’t recall the age of the ticket.) The ex-con’s response was, “I’ve been busy!”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36857 "2019-09-24T02:02:18Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Reminds me of a line in a _Law & Order_ episode, where someone got out of jail and went to a parking garage to retrieve a car that had been parked there for years. The attendant said, “This ticket is six years old”. (I don’t recall the age of the ticket.) The ex-con’s response was, “I’ve been busy!”

That was Luther in _48 Hrs._

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36858 "2019-09-24T02:07:14Z")

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> [@Tatterdemalion](#):
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> So apparently she is both human and mammalian. Good to know, I wonder about that family sometimes.
> 
> Otherwise, how is it relevant the the general clusterfuckery of the administration?

I thought the same thing. She’s a woman, she has nipples, can we just move on…

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36859 "2019-09-24T02:29:59Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> I thought the same thing. She’s a woman, she has nipples, can we just move on…

… from middle school? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36860 "2019-09-24T02:34:57Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> … from middle school? :rolleyes:

Nursery school.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36861 "2019-09-24T04:21:15Z")

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I wonder if this is true? Will it make a difference?

[https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/23/politics/trump-ukraine-military-aid-call/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/23/politics/trump-ukraine-military-aid-call/index.html)

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> President Donald Trump asked his acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney to put a hold on millions in military aid to Ukraine roughly one week before a call with the Ukrainian president in which he pressured the country to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden’s son, two senior administration officials said on Monday.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36862 "2019-09-24T05:03:08Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> From CNN:
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> Will it have changes in it marked in with a Sharpie?
> 
> Substitute “embarrassing” with “treasonous”

> [@](#):
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> White House officials were soliciting opinions from **outside advisers** over the weekend

My bold.

“Outside advisers” = “Fox News” doesn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36863 "2019-09-24T05:09:21Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> I wonder if this is true? Will it make a difference?
> 
> [https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/23/politics/trump-ukraine-military-aid-call/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/23/politics/trump-ukraine-military-aid-call/index.html)

> [@](#):
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> President Donald Trump asked his acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney to put a hold on millions in military aid to Ukraine roughly one week before a call with the Ukrainian president in which he pressured the country to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden’s son, two senior administration officials said on Monday.

No, it will make no difference at all.

There could be an unambiguous video recording, (complete with notarized statements of authenticity from 6 respected witnesses) of Trump threatening Zelensky and saying “You won’t get a damned penny of aid until you manage to cook something up to get Biden! I don’t care what you have to do, or who you have to pay off! Just do it!”

Even that would not shift the needle. Trump is a crime boss. Republicans know it. They like it. They approve of it.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/36864 "2019-09-24T05:33:21Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> No, it will make no difference at all.
> 
> There could be an unambiguous video recording, (complete with notarized statements of authenticity from 6 respected witnesses) of Trump threatening Zelensky and saying “You won’t get a damned penny of aid until you manage to cook something up to get Biden! I don’t care what you have to do, or who you have to pay off! Just do it!”
> 
> Even that would not shift the needle. Trump is a crime boss. Republicans know it. They like it. They approve of it.

I am going to have faith that this is finally the tipping point. Finally, at long last, the tipping point.

I keep thinking of all those people who say that many Trump supporters are actually decent people. They are our co-workers. They are our friends from school years ago. They are “everyday” people with different backgrounds and beliefs than mine.

Here is yet another opportunity to prove that what critics think and say about “deplorables” is not true. Not who they really are. Let us see what happens.

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