# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37065 "2019-09-26T14:23:49Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> “And now, you die, and we all move up in rank!”

“My followers would avenge my death, and some of them are Vulcans.”

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37066 "2019-09-26T14:48:57Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> “My followers would avenge my death, and some of them are Vulcans.”

If we’re going to bring ST into this…

trump is a Pakled and Pence is a J’naii. There are no Vulcans in this administration. The constant barrage of ill-logic would drive them mad. Bolton might be a Klingon, just not a very good one. Rudy is from the Planet of Weasels, but no one knows its name, because the inhabitants always avoid telling anyone.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37067 "2019-09-26T14:58:24Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Bolton might be a Klingon, just not a very good one.

i.e. he’s a Kazon.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37068 "2019-09-26T15:01:49Z")

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Quite a few Ferengi scurrying around the edges of the administration, looking for profit and gold-pressed latinum.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37069 "2019-09-26T15:18:34Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Rudy is from the Planet of Weasels, but no one knows its name, because the inhabitants always avoid telling anyone.

Have you seen the way he keeps digging himself deeper into a hole while trying to communicate even the simplest message? Giuliani’s obviously a Horta.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37070 "2019-09-26T15:46:21Z")

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A Psammead. His eyes even come out on stalks.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37071 "2019-09-26T15:54:31Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> If we’re going to bring ST into this…
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> Rudy is from the Planet of Weasels, but no one knows its name, because the inhabitants always avoid telling anyone.

^:dubious:^

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37072 "2019-09-26T16:13:21Z")

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Weren’t there any aliens with orange skin and weird hair? I can’t come up with any.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37073 "2019-09-26T16:37:32Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Weren’t there any aliens with orange skin and weird hair? I can’t come up with any.

Oompah Loompahs?  
Although I know they aren’t aliens.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37074 "2019-09-26T16:43:33Z")

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The WH apparently “[moved records of conversations with foreign leaders onto a separate computer system](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-whistleblower-ukraine-call-records-foreign-officials-separate-computer-system-a9120961.html)”.

But I’m sure that’s fine.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37075 "2019-09-26T16:44:36Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> More info:
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> [Trump’s weird reference to “CrowdStrike” during the Ukraine call, briefly explained](https://www.vox.com/2019/9/25/20883373/trump-crowdstrike-ukraine-call-explained)  
> _Trump still thinks his own intelligence agencies are wrong about who hacked the DNC — and he wanted Ukraine’s help to prove it._

And a similar article from a right-wing source:

> **[Ukraine transcript reveals Trump asked for ‘favor’ related to CrowdStrike...](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2594596/ukraine-transcript-reveals-trump-asked-for-favor-related-to-crowdstrike-conspiracy-theory/)**
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> President Trump directly referred to a "favor" he wanted from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in the July 25 conversation that's the subject of a whistleblower complaint, but it apparently related to the 2016 election, not Joe Biden or his son...

Anyone have a benign theory of why Trump would care about trying to clear Russia, in a private and confidential call, long after (ostensibly) being cleared of having had anything to do with Russia?

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37076 "2019-09-26T16:45:38Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> The WH apparently “[moved records of conversations with foreign leaders onto a separate computer system](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-whistleblower-ukraine-call-records-foreign-officials-separate-computer-system-a9120961.html)”.
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> But I’m sure that’s fine.

I’m sure that it’s a lovely time for a Congressional subpoena and a speedy Supreme Court battle over the issue.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37077 "2019-09-26T16:48:38Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I’m sure that it’s a lovely time for a Congressional subpoena and a speedy Supreme Court battle over the issue.

Question: When the congress opens up an official impeachment investigation, are there still going to be court battles over how the party under investigation should be allowed to withhold and hide evidence, and prevent witnesses from testifying?

Because this sounds a bit suspect.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37078 "2019-09-26T16:50:44Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Oompah Loompahs?  
> Although I know they aren’t aliens.

They also aren’t on _Star Trek_.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37079 "2019-09-26T16:55:50Z")

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Here’s a link to the Washington Post’s Youtube channel. I haven’t watched the video because I’m at work, and fair warning- it’s probably Trump speaking. I add it here because the title features my favorite big-boy Trumpism: so-called.  
The title is: "Trump: I fully support transparency on the so-called whistleblower information"

Fuck off, Trump

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37080 "2019-09-26T16:58:06Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Weren’t there any aliens with orange skin and weird hair? I can’t come up with any.
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> > [@CalMeacham](#):
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> > Oompah Loompahs?  
> > Although I know they aren’t aliens.

[I sure can’t think of any.](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6WrPqTklmto/VhMlQg2p4gI/AAAAAAAArOc/0BMu7pn9FA0/s1600/tie2.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37081 "2019-09-26T17:18:36Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> They also aren’t on _Star Trek_.

Sure they were. They were in that one series starring Scott Bakula that nobody watched. Along with all the Psammeads.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37082 "2019-09-26T17:45:36Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> They also aren’t on _Star Trek_.

One must venture farther afield to satisfy the anal-ogies when it is so obvious that the MAGAts are staggering around drunk on Slurm while the President seems to resemble Morbo but with the intelligence of Zap Brannigan.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37083 "2019-09-26T17:57:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1, with his usual lack of empathy:  
> “Cokie Roberts ‘never treated me nicely’ but ‘was a professional’”  
> [https://thehill.com/homenews/media/461786-trump-cokie-roberts-never-treated-me-nicely-but-was-a-professional](https://thehill.com/homenews/media/461786-trump-cokie-roberts-never-treated-me-nicely-but-was-a-professional)

I know it’s been ten days and that’s like a decade in Trump scandal years. But I just saw an article on this.

Here’s Barack and Michelle Obama’s public message:

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> Michelle and I are sad to hear about the passing of Cokie Roberts. She was a trailblazing figure; a role model to young women at a time when the profession was still dominated by men; a constant over forty years of a shifting media landscape and changing world, informing voters about the issues of our time and mentoring young journalists every step of the way. She will be missed - and we send our condolences to her family.

Here’s George and Laura Bush’s public message:

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> We are deeply saddened that Cokie Roberts is no longer with us. She covered us for decades as a talented, tough, and fair reporter. We respected her drive and appreciated her humor. She became a friend. We know Steve, their children, and grandchildren are heartbroken. They have our sincere sympathies.

Here’s Bill Clinton’s public message:

> [@](#):
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> I liked and respected Cokie Roberts very much. She understood people and politics. For nearly half a century, she was an institution in American journalism - tough but fair, insightful, and with a voice all her own. She’ll be missed.

And here’s Donald Trump’s:

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> I never met her. She never treated me nicely. But I would like to wish her family well. She was a professional, and I respect professionals. I respect you guys a lot, you people a lot. She was a real professional. Never treated me well, but I certainly respect her as a professional.

You can see his handlers were hard at work. They managed to get two words “respect” and “professional” fixed in his head.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37084 "2019-09-26T17:57:39Z")

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And even after this latest betrayal, people STILL support and defend this traitor piece of shit.

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