# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1857
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37125 "2019-09-27T03:44:56Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Well, THAT’S something, isn’t it? > > $100,000 if you BRING US HIS HEAD. In a normal universe, this would be a borderline incitement of violence or solicitation or murder, but then again…Bill Barr’s the AG, so all bets are off. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37126 "2019-09-27T03:58:44Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Well, THAT’S something, isn’t it? > > $100,000 if you BRING US HIS HEAD. Aha! The Whistleblower’s name is Alfredo Garcia! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37127 "2019-09-27T03:59:04Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > $50K reward offered to out Trump whistleblower > [$50K reward offered to out Trump whistleblower - Washington Examiner](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/50-000-reward-offered-to-out-trump-whistleblower) Anyone who wants to take them up on that offer had better insist on cash up front. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37128 "2019-09-27T04:35:40Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I can’t find the link ( I’ve clicked on a lot of links in the past couple of days. ), but one supposition is that he’s looking to discredit the Russian interference part of the Mueller investigation so he’ll have an excuse to pardon Manafort. I’m not sure how that clears Manafort, but I doubt Trump understood the charges against Manafort. Last I looked, Manafort was convicted of bank fraud. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37129 "2019-09-27T05:01:17Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Aha! The Whistleblower’s name is Alfredo Garcia! Or Louis XVI ---
**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37130 "2019-09-27T05:28:36Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I can’t find the link ( I’ve clicked on a lot of links in the past couple of days. ), but one supposition is that he’s looking to discredit the Russian interference part of the Mueller investigation so he’ll have an excuse to pardon Manafort. I’m not sure how that clears Manafort, but I doubt Trump understood the charges against Manafort. The Bizarro-World Big Lie Projection Narrative they’re pursuing goes like this: Hillary and Co. colluded with Ukrainian officials to dig up/fabricate the infamous “Black Ledger” that showed Manafort receiving $12M+ to spin PR and peddle influence for the Ukrainian President/Gov’t … which was of course the smoking gun in many of Manafort’s criminal charges relating to tax evasion. It’s “No Collusion – THEY’RE the Colluders!” all over again. Because if Hillary dug up the documents that started the Feds looking at Manafort’s undeclared income, then his conviction was … somehow … un … fair? I guess? 😕 But anyway, that’s the narrative Rudy has been trying to sell for the past 6 or 7 months, IIRC. Working from memory here, so don’t quote me on specifics, but I’m confident enough in the broad strokes to type it out, here. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37131 "2019-09-27T05:37:10Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > $50K reward offered to out Trump whistleblower > [$50K reward offered to out Trump whistleblower - Washington Examiner](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/50-000-reward-offered-to-out-trump-whistleblower) > [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Well, THAT’S something, isn’t it? > > $100,000 if you BRING US HIS HEAD. Trump hints that [the whistleblower should get the death penalty](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/trump-whistleblower-sources-punishment/index.html?no-st=1569533209), like the Rosenbergs in the 1950s. ---
**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37132 "2019-09-27T05:59:01Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Trump hints that [the whistleblower should get the death penalty](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/trump-whistleblower-sources-punishment/index.html?no-st=1569533209), like the Rosenbergs in the 1950s. Point of order! Trump wants to execute those who gave the whistleblower information. Presumably, death is too good for the actual whistleblower. :rolleyes: I am SO SICK of living in interesting times. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37133 "2019-09-27T06:01:27Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > You know, I think Rudy may have lifted this from a Scooby-Doo. Old Man Weatherby, down at the Mausoleum and Swami Shop- it sounds like something he’d say. I was thinking [Raul Julia as M. Bison](https://youtu.be/LjogCytzX0s) ---
**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37134 "2019-09-27T06:05:19Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I can’t find the link ( I’ve clicked on a lot of links in the past couple of days. ), but one supposition is that he’s looking to discredit the Russian interference part of the Mueller investigation so he’ll have an excuse to pardon Manafort. I’m not sure how that clears Manafort, but I doubt Trump understood the charges against Manafort. Hey, I found a couple of the links I’d read in the past coupla days: [_Trump, Giuliani, and Manafort: The Ukraine Scheme_ Murray Waas, _NYR Daily_ 25 SEP 2019](https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/09/25/trump-giuliani-and-manafort-the-ukraine-scheme/) [_Rudy Giuliani accused me of exposing Paul Manafort’s Ukraine deals to help U.S. Democrats. That’s a lie._ Serhiy Leshchenko, _The Washington Post_ (Opinion) 21 SEP 2019](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/21/why-is-rudy-giuliani-trying-drag-my-countrys-president-into-trumps-reelection-campaign/) ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37135 "2019-09-27T10:59:16Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > $50K reward offered to out Trump whistleblower > [$50K reward offered to out Trump whistleblower - Washington Examiner](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/50-000-reward-offered-to-out-trump-whistleblower) We should start a GoFundMe to raise $5M to GIVE to the whistleblower along with a balloon and a nice Hallmark card (I’m sure they have one for this). Maybe throw in a Starbucks gift card and a membership in the Martha Stewart wine-of-the-month club. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37136 "2019-09-27T11:06:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > $50K reward offered to out Trump whistleblower > [$50K reward offered to out Trump whistleblower - Washington Examiner](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/50-000-reward-offered-to-out-trump-whistleblower) Wow. That site had so much video/pop-up/let us send you notifications crap I couldn’t read the article. Might be time to update my adblocker. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37137 "2019-09-27T11:10:11Z")
Here’s another link to that story, titled Washington’s Biggest Idiots Offer 50K Reward > **[DC's Biggest Idiots Put a Bounty On Trump's Ukraine Whistleblower](https://splinternews.com/washingtons-biggest-idiots-offer-50k-reward-to-expose-1838498938)** > > When it comes to the ignominious title of “biggest idiots in Washington DC” there’s plenty of heavy competition, but only one undisputed heavyweight champion team: alleged criminal Jacob Wohl and conspiracy loon Jack Burkman, the Laurel and Hardy of... ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37138 "2019-09-27T11:31:01Z")
On a lighter note, here’s a comedy article which could plausibly true in this day and age; [Major Security Crisis: The Rooster That’s Loose In The White House Is No Longer Afraid Of The Jack-O’-Lantern President Trump Put Outside The Oval Office To Scare It Away](https://news.clickhole.com/major-security-crisis-the-rooster-that-s-loose-in-the-1835751710) > [@](#): > > “It has recently become clear that the rooster no longer finds the face the president carved into the jack-o’-lantern to be scary in any way, and we fear it is a matter of time before he gets into the Oval Office and completely mauls the president with his beak and talons,” said Secret Service director James M. Murray in a press conference, during which he wore a full-body hazmat suit in order to protect himself from rooster attacks. “We have reason to be concerned that in the next several days, or possibly hours, the rooster could kill the president. There is a rotting-meat smell in the Oval Office that seems to attract the rooster and makes it even angrier. If there’s any lesson to be learned from this catastrophe, it is that jack-o’-lanterns have severe limitations when it comes to scaring roosters away from a sitting president.” > > The Secret Service added that, at the height of his panic, President Trump took the time to name the rooster “Beak Vilanch,” which he believed was a pun on the name “Bruce Vilanch,” even though the word “beak” sounds nothing like the name “Bruce.” ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37139 "2019-09-27T12:36:32Z")
[Next week’s New Yorker cover.](https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212512034) Perfect summation. Love the toothpick in Ghouliani’s mouth. It must be hell in the White House. Imagine the paranoia and suspicion during the Mueller probe. Now cube it. Donald surely sees a potential informer behind every face. You know this is in his head every waking moment. All this in vain- extorting an ally to get long-debunked dirt on a rival who may not even get the nomination. He’s getting to be quite the Shakespearean tragic figure. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37140 "2019-09-27T12:51:37Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > I wondered where I had heard the name Jacob Wohl before…so I googled. > > Good fucken grief. Again, God help you America. > > ☹ “The duo have a sketchy record” from the article linked by **Rick Kitchen**. That’s putting it mildly, 007. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37141 "2019-09-27T12:54:44Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > [Next week’s New Yorker cover.](https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212512034) Perfect summation. Love the toothpick in Ghouliani’s mouth. > > It must be hell in the White House. Imagine the paranoia and suspicion during the Mueller probe. Now cube it. Donald surely sees a potential informer behind every face. You know this is in his head every waking moment. All this in vain- extorting an ally to get long-debunked dirt on a rival who may not even get the nomination. He’s getting to be quite the Shakespearean tragic figure. Only if he’s the villain in the tragedy. And even they often had a trace of nobility in them first. He’s never had any. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37142 "2019-09-27T12:59:36Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > …It must be hell in the White House. Imagine the paranoia and suspicion during the Mueller probe. Now cube it. … Sure would be a good time to let everyone have a time out. Let everyone collect themselves, strategize, spin and downplay. Also, to let the fence sitting Americans move on to other things. I heard that congress was taking the next month off. Perfect timing. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37143 "2019-09-27T13:00:02Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > “The duo have a sketchy record” from the article linked by **Rick Kitchen**. > > That’s putting it mildly, 007. The Splinternews article describes them as the Laurel and Hardy of conservative grifters ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37144 "2019-09-27T13:00:03Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > He’s getting to be quite the Shakespearean tragic figure. Richard III, vile as he was, at least had cunning. Trump is a fucking moron. He’s more of _Conspiracy of Dunces_ tragic figure. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1856) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1858)