# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 186
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3701 "2017-04-28T22:15:11Z")
[Sessions basically says Flynn was Obama’s fault.](https://www.yahoo.com/gma/michael-flynn-attorney-general-sessions-says-vetting-cant-115151592--abc-news-topstories.html) When will this nightmare/embarrassment of a presidency be over? ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3702 "2017-04-28T22:16:11Z")
Let’s promise him a YUGE pile of money to resign and get Mexico to pay for it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3703 "2017-04-28T22:32:36Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > Let’s promise him a YUGE pile of money to resign and get Mexico to pay for it. And then afterwards, Mexico can say “Resignation was not as advertised. We will not pay for it now. Sad!” ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3704 "2017-04-28T23:26:58Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > I kind of like this idea. > How do those crowd funding sites work? If I promise $20 bucks, am I only on the hook if it works? How about we turn up the heat? He gets it if he leaves within a year. If he doesn’t, all the money goes to the Clinton Foundation. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3705 "2017-04-29T00:29:35Z")
This may be a little more difficult than I imagined. (Who knew it would be so hard?:D) I went to the Gofund me site and there are like a billion Trump things. Most seemed to be asking for money for marches and protests, though I have to admit I didn’t dig too deeply. I think we have to have a more thought out strategy. We need publicity to get through all the noise. If people are going to donate, it has to be the first thing on the page. I can only think of one sure fire way to get the national (international) publicity needed. One of the millionaire dopers is gonna have to come through bigly. I think if we start off with a nice $1,000,000, that should start the ball rolling. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3706 "2017-04-29T00:59:38Z")
The answer is not to pay off Trump (which won’t work) but to humiliate him in the ways that he cannot stand, e.g. to impugn his wealth and hand size, diminish his “ratings”, and tarnish his brand. But the problem is larger than that; even if Trump goes, both the political machine and the “tear down the system” mentality of the base that elected him still exists and needs to be dealth with, preferable by fragmenting them and encouraging them to feed upon one another. Unfortunately, that is the field of behavior where the Democrats have traditionally had the lead. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3707 "2017-04-29T01:12:50Z")
Two things; First, I have no reason to believe that paying off Trump won’t work. After all isn’t that his recent business model? Selling out his name. I think that if the guy you worship sells out completely, maybe you’ll rethink. It has occasionally worked with sports figures. Second, I don’t know how Trump could get anymore bad publicity than he already does. The guy is a laughingstock. Yet his supporters dig their heels in. Something new has to be tried. Also thirdly, :), I plan on you, **Stranger On A Train** , writing the blurb for the Gofundme. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3708 "2017-04-29T01:28:13Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > …even if Trump goes, both the political machine and the “tear down the system” mentality of the base that elected him still exists and needs to be dealth with, preferable by fragmenting them and encouraging them to feed upon one another. If you mean that literally, I am totally on board with that. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3709 "2017-04-29T01:33:28Z")
Trump’s 100 Days accomplishments: 1. Supreme Court Justice 2. Saved Obamacare 3. Kept government funded for 7 days Did I miss anything? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3710 "2017-04-29T02:15:08Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Trump’s 100 Days accomplishments: > > 1. Supreme Court Justice > 2. Saved Obamacare > 3. Kept government funded for 7 days > > Did I miss anything? You did. 1. Supreme Court Justice\* \*Stolen from President Barack Obama, nominated by Charles and David Koch. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3711 "2017-04-29T02:18:49Z")
Didn’t grab Angela Merkel’s _herrmuffin_. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3712 "2017-04-29T02:23:09Z")
Wouldn’t it be something if one day next week, they all just disappeared, hijacked Air Force One to Paraguay? Note left on the desk in the Oval Office: “Hey, Mike, here are the keys to the nuclear codes. Check the refrigerator full of Cokes behind my desk. Don’t forget to feed Melania.” ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3713 "2017-04-29T02:27:08Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > Two things; > > First, I have no reason to believe that paying off Trump won’t work. He probably stands to profit way more from using his Presidential office to influence his business ventures than we could dream of raising on gofundme. He probably already has, in just a few months. And he’s got years left to keep raking in cash and stacking the deck in his favor. He’s running the biggest con game of all time. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3714 "2017-04-29T02:54:49Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Trump’s 100 Days accomplishments: > > 1. Supreme Court Justice > 2. Saved Obamacare > 3. Kept government funded for 7 days > > Did I miss anything? 1. Hired a Russian agent as his National Security Advisor. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3715 "2017-04-29T03:15:18Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > 1. Hired a Russian agent as his National Security Advisor. 1. Hired a Russian agent as his Secretary of State. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3716 "2017-04-29T03:38:06Z")
Proud wearer of Neo-nazi group medals, and likely not a doctor, national security aide Sebastian Gorka could be circling the drain. [http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/daily-beast-white-house-considering-getting-rid-sebastian-gorka](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/daily-beast-white-house-considering-getting-rid-sebastian-gorka) > [@](#): > > Sebastian Gorka’s days at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue may be numbered. Three senior Trump administration officials who spoke to the Daily Beast said that discussions are underway on when and how to remove the scandal-plagued national security aide from his post. > > Gorka, a deputy assistant to the President, came to the White House from a post as national security editor for Breitbart News and a string of gigs teaching and giving talks on counterterrorism at military universities and small think tanks. > > Two officials told the publication that the White House was searching for a new role for him that did not require a security clearance, which BuzzFeed reported he had not obtained as recently as last month. > > Given that Gorka is tasked with working on highly sensitive subjects including cybersecurity and counterterrorism, this lack of clearance is unusual and prompts questions about what other agency he could be assigned to. Gorka was also denied a security clearance in Hungary in 2002, multiple sources told TPM in February. This denial kept him off of a governmental panel investigating the then-prime minister, who was found to have worked for the Hungarian secret service during the Soviet era. > > U.S. counterterrorism experts told TPM they had little awareness of Gorka’s professional work and derided his hardline views about Islam, inability to speak Arabic, and insistence on being addressed as “Doctor.” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3717 "2017-04-29T04:11:59Z")
And speaking of Neo-Nazis… [Remember how Trump came up supporting right winger Le Pen for the election in France?](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/21/trump-supports-marine-le-pen-237464) As usual, Trump does have a blind spot regarding fascists. > **[New Leader Of France's National Front Steps Down Amid Reports Of Holocaust...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/france-national-front-marine-le-pen-holocaust-denial-jean-francois-jalkh_n_590342d5e4b05c39767e3d8a?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009)** > > This isn’t the first time the far-right party's been linked to anti-Semitism. But it comes as another major blow for presidential candidate Marine Le Pen. > [@](#): > > New Leader Of France’s National Front Steps Down Amid Reports Of Holocaust Denial > > This isn’t the first time the far-right party’s been linked to anti-Semitism. But it comes as another major blow for presidential candidate Marine Le Pen. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3718 "2017-04-29T04:23:12Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Proud wearer of Neo-nazi group medals, and likely not a doctor, national security aide Sebastian Gorka could be circling the drain. > > [http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/daily-beast-white-house-considering-getting-rid-sebastian-gorka](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/daily-beast-white-house-considering-getting-rid-sebastian-gorka) God, I hope they kick Gorka and Bannon both to the curb with all speed. If Trump can just be an inept Republican kleptocrat, I would at least be able to sleep at night. It’s the white supremacy that really terrifies me. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3719 "2017-04-29T05:18:07Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Why did Trump remain seated during his [meeting](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2017/04/27/trumps-unusual-meeting-with-2017-teachers-of-the-year/)with the (mostly female) 2017 Teachers of the Year? Maybe he was afraid he wouldn’t be able to control himself while surrounded by all those pussies. Hiding a woody? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3720 "2017-04-29T13:06:03Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Hiding a woody? That was my first thought, and then I dismissed it for obvious reasons. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=185) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=187)