# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37265 "2019-09-30T23:58:21Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I find that it’s pointless to try to argue with The Cult Of The Orange Anus. They don’t give a shit what he does as long as he hates the same people they do. For those that can be persuaded, I think the Ukrainian transcript would be enough. But get the whistleblower and his sources to testify and get more evidence, then that might move the needle enough to get a conviction. I’ve gotta believe that most Republican Senators would love to get rid of the little prick and even Lindsay Graham deep down would love to stop licking his boots. They just need to be confronted with compelling evidence.

The republican senators are all well aware that they cannot get re-elected without the support of the The Cult Of The Orange Anus, since the republican party has systematically alienated everybody who’s not either a rich sociopath or an idiotic piece of shit. So regardless of what they want, they will keep their lips cemented to the Orange Anus until the heat death of their careers.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37266 "2019-10-01T02:01:41Z")

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> **[Intelligence community watchdog debunks whistleblower conspiracy pushed by...](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/30/politics/icig-statement-whistleblower-complaint/index.html)**
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> The intelligence community inspector general is forcefully pushing back against assertions made by President Donald Trump and several Republican lawmakers about the whistleblower complaint that has rocked Washington in recent weeks.

_The intelligence community inspector general is forcefully pushing back against assertions made by President Donald Trump and several Republican lawmakers about the whistleblower complaint that has rocked Washington in recent weeks._

Is there anyone in Washington that doesn’t want this motherfucker gone? I’m sure Lyin’ Ted Cruz and Little Marco do. And I thought Moscow Mitch’s response when asked if he would proceed with impeachment if the House votes for it was interesting. He said he would have to if the House went down that road. Nothing about how it would be a partisan and unjustified attack on a President who has done nothing wrong.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37267 "2019-10-01T17:27:48Z")

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Pompeo is traveling with Sebastian Gorka on his overseas trip. Allegedly as a member of the press pool.

> **[Gorka travels with Pompeo on trip to Vatican](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463801-gorka-travels-with-pompeo-on-trip-to-vatican/)**
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> Former White House aide Sebastian Gorka is traveling with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on his trip to Europe.Gorka, a contributor for Sinclair TV who has been named as the hos…

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37268 "2019-10-01T17:30:55Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Pompeo is traveling with Sebastian Gorka on his overseas trip. Allegedly as a member of the press pool.  
> [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463801-gorka-travels-with-pompeo-on-trip-to-vatican](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463801-gorka-travels-with-pompeo-on-trip-to-vatican)

They didn’t bring Miller along? After all, Nazi scumbags stuck together (like shit) I thought.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37269 "2019-10-01T18:22:02Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> He’s been doing that for quite a while now. The press is the enemy. Fucking enemy. The man is a psycho. It works, too. Now the whistleblower’s lawyers are concerned about his safety. That does have an effect on the likelihood of future whistleblowers to be willing to say something.

It’s obvious, illegal witness intimidation, and this BY ITSELF should be grounds for impeachment.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37270 "2019-10-01T19:37:12Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Pompeo is traveling with Sebastian Gorka on his overseas trip. Allegedly as a member of the press pool.  
> [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463801-gorka-travels-with-pompeo-on-trip-to-vatican](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463801-gorka-travels-with-pompeo-on-trip-to-vatican)

Sebastian Gorka will be one of the worst National Security Advisors this country has ever had; I can’t wait!

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37271 "2019-10-01T20:34:44Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Sebastian Gorka will be one of the worst National Security Advisors this country has ever had; I can’t wait!

Google his “Ph.D. dissertation”. One professor’s comments ([Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Gorka#Credentials)):

“Georgetown University associate professor Daniel Nexon reviewed Gorka’s PhD thesis, describing it as “inept” and saying “It does not deploy evidence that would satisfy the most basic methodological requirements for a PhD in the US”.[54]”

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37272 "2019-10-01T22:24:31Z")

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Attorney General Barr has been going all Giuliani and [globetrotting around the world](https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1179138793795936256) to meet with shady people who can help with his investigations:

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> NEW: Barr’s counter-investigation of the Mueller probe goes international. The AG just went to Rome to listen to a deposition from shadowy Russiagate figure Joseph Mifsud.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37273 "2019-10-01T22:39:08Z")

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Trump and his pet project, [the Wall](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1179157822610821120):

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> Privately, Trump talked about fortifying a border wall with a water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators, NYT reports. He wanted the wall electrified. Aides recall that Trump once suggested they shoot migrants in the legs to slow them down.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37274 "2019-10-01T22:44:22Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Trump and his pet project, [the Wall](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1179157822610821120):

Glad he didn’t suggest sharks with frickin’ laser beams. That would make us look ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37275 "2019-10-01T22:46:51Z")

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He also insisted on a [Boomerang Bump and giant Splashdown Pool](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PQH741svy4).

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37276 "2019-10-01T22:59:19Z")

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[Seth Abramson](https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1179159562022248448), _Newsweek_ columnist on Barr revelation:

> [@Seth Abramson](#):
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> I don’t know what to say right now… I’m stunned. the president and his AG are openly working with our enemies to provide manufactured evidence that will provide aid and comfort to our enemies and allow our enemies to steal another presidential election. It’s a national crisis.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37277 "2019-10-01T23:06:43Z")

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I thought Mifsud went to ground and nobody knew where he was…

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37278 "2019-10-01T23:12:37Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I thought Mifsud went to ground and nobody knew where he was…

From an April [ABC News article](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/russia-linked-figures-muellers-probe-cold-reports-release/story?id=62518830):

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> Mueller’s prosecutors described in the report released on Thursday how Joseph Mifsud tried to broker meetings between Papadopoulos and Russians. It also reported that Mifsud had interactions with a former Russian troll factory employee and contacts linked to the Russian military unit accused of hacking into Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic Party’s emails.
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> On Thursday evening, Papadopoulos’ wife Simona Papadopoulos tweeted out an Italian news article that reported that the formerly London-based professor, who apparently disappeared from public view early last year, had been “hiding in Rome” for a seven-month stretch in an apartment paid for by a university where Mifsud had taught a course in political science.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37279 "2019-10-01T23:32:03Z")

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Thanks! I missed that and assumed he was still presumed likely dead at the bottom of a pond or something.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37280 "2019-10-01T23:40:35Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> From an April [ABC News article](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/russia-linked-figures-muellers-probe-cold-reports-release/story?id=62518830):
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> > [@](#):
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> > On Thursday evening, Papadopoulos’ wife Simona Papadopoulos tweeted out an Italian news article that reported that the formerly London-based professor, who apparently disappeared from public view early last year, had been “hiding in Rome” for a seven-month stretch in an apartment paid for by a university where Mifsud had taught a course in political science.

I bet he’s still there. And I’m sure it is a \*complete \*coincidence that Barr and Gorka are in Rome right now.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37281 "2019-10-01T23:54:28Z")

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> **[Tuesday coverage of the Trump impeachment inquiry](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-impeachment-inquiry-10-01-2019/h_50cb4b8d7a00ea1017b42905c01b9134)**
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> Key House Democrats have subpoenaed documents from Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani as they press forward with the impeachment inquiry. Follow here for the latest.

\*State Department inspector general requests “urgent” Hill briefing on Ukraine documents  
The State Department’s inspector general has requested a bipartisan staff briefing with relevant congressional committees tomorrow related to documents on Ukraine, according to sources briefed on the matter.

The email that went to staff suggested it was “urgent,” sources said.

A congressional aide described the inspector general’s request as “highly unusual and cryptically worded.”

The source also said that the inspector general stated the office had obtained documents from the acting legal adviser at the State Departmen\*t.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37282 "2019-10-02T00:31:12Z")

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> [@Mike\_Mabes](#):
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> [State Department inspector general requests "urgent" Hill briefing on Ukraine documents](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-impeachment-inquiry-10-01-2019/h_50cb4b8d7a00ea1017b42905c01b9134)  
> \*State Department inspector general requests “urgent” Hill briefing on Ukraine documents  
> The State Department’s inspector general has requested a bipartisan staff briefing with relevant congressional committees tomorrow related to documents on Ukraine, according to sources briefed on the matter.
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> The email that went to staff suggested it was “urgent,” sources said.
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> A congressional aide described the inspector general’s request as “highly unusual and cryptically worded.”
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> The source also said that the inspector general stated the office had obtained documents from the acting legal adviser at the State Department\*

Expect more resignations.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37283 "2019-10-02T00:32:38Z")

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[Small rat (or mouse) spotted fleeing sinking ship.](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/463815-reporters-scramble-after-mouse-falls-from-white-house-ceiling)

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37284 "2019-10-02T01:36:58Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I bet he’s still there. And I’m sure it is a \*complete \*coincidence that Barr and Gorka are in Rome right now.

Just curious…have previous Attorneys General jetted around the globe acting as bagmen for their presidents? It seems to me they usually stay home in D.C., tending to domestic Justice affairs.

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