# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1868
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37345 "2019-10-02T21:23:58Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > What’s the minimum donation and could you populate the list with names like “Mike Rotch” and “Amanda Huggenkiz” ? No doubt they will want your email addy. So they can keep you informed of important developments (and keep asking you for money) ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37346 "2019-10-02T21:32:52Z")
[Andrew Desiderio](https://twitter.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1179502099563986944), _Politico_: > [@](#): > > Dem source says the WH “sent an envelope to Sec. Pompeo … The envelope contained a bunch of TRUMP HOTEL folders. Those folders contained notes from interviews that took place at Rudy Giuliani’s NYC office with various Ukrainians about debunked conspiracies related to Ukraine.” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37347 "2019-10-02T21:34:17Z")
I had a dream the other night: Jimmy Carter and GWB spearheading a campaign for the voting public to disparage Trump as being a disgrace to their former office. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37348 "2019-10-02T21:34:50Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Bolding mine. > > So… If you’re not on the list… Then you’re on the other one. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37349 "2019-10-02T21:55:23Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Booking rooms in Trump hotels as a way to curry favor is pretty obvious as it is. But it becomes even more obvious when you book a bunch of rooms, then don’t actually stay in them. That would be pretty dumb, right? Well, evidently at least one trade association and foreign government did just that. > > Remember all those times when Republicans said they wanted to run the country like a business? Well, they’re doing it. > > [https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/10/02/trump-hotel-empty-rooms-016763?\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/10/02/trump-hotel-empty-rooms-016763?__twitter_impression=true) That’s actually pretty big. My nine-year-old daughter, watching LEGO Lex Luthor talk about becoming president: “What?!? Bad guys can’t be president, that’s silly.” Me: “Welll, actually…” > [@Alessan](#): > > Do you really think the Secret Service will side with Trump? Why would they? Presidents come and go. As soon as a new president is sworn in, they’ll simply arrest any trespassers in the White House. Nothing personal - just doing their job. Right, or U.S. Marshals. Trump has been too adversarial to the FBI, etc. to have any chance to pull this off. Fortunately. ---
**Author:** ![Critical\_Mass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Critical\_Mass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical_Mass)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37350 "2019-10-02T22:22:01Z")
Do incarcerated former presidents continue to receive lifetime secret service protection? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37351 "2019-10-02T23:30:52Z")
> [@Critical\_Mass](#): > > Do incarcerated former presidents continue to receive lifetime secret service protection? I hope we find out the answer to your question. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37352 "2019-10-02T23:47:21Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Right, or U.S. Marshals. Trump has been too adversarial to the FBI, etc. to have any chance to pull this off. Fortunately. I’ve wondered about this. It would seem that a immature (to put it mildly) bully, that did not want to leave the White House would indeed be taken by force by both the Secret Service and US Marshalls. I’ve been wondering what the hell they would do with him? I would suspect, Bethesda would be the first stop. “The former President Trump had an episode today, and we are taking care of him”. As much as a would like to see him dumped off at I DC jail, or even Trump Tower, that’s not going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37353 "2019-10-03T00:17:48Z")
> [@Critical\_Mass](#): > > Do incarcerated former presidents continue to receive lifetime secret service protection? It would probably take an act of congress to deprive Trump specifically of that protection, but he should keep it anyway. I realize he has a brain resembling the remains of a roadkill squirrel, but it’s not impossible that he’d retain some minor fragment of sensitive information that he hasn’t already blurted, so keeping him in isolated or semi-isolated protective confinement is probably prudent. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37354 "2019-10-03T00:27:23Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I’ve wondered about this. It would seem that a immature (to put it mildly) bully, that did not want to leave the White House would indeed be taken by force by both the Secret Service and US Marshalls. > > I’ve been wondering what the hell they would do with him? I would suspect, Bethesda would be the first stop. “The former President Trump had an episode today, and we are taking care of him”. … It could happen that way. But I think he’s going to go down via an actual crime: blowing up the White House in a last-ditch effort to frame…someone. > [@](#): > > “Nancy Pelosi, Hillary, Obama, Liddle’ Adam Schiff, and Bette Midler conspired to murder me today. They are TRAITORS and should be looked at for TREASON! And I will not give in to the illegal effort to remove Me by that fake-news vote in the Senate\*. I will carry on as Your Favorite President from Trump Tower, MAGA!!!1!!!” He’s always hated the White House. And this would give him the chance to loot the place first (look for a sudden flurry of moving vans as the Senate vote approaches) and hide the thefts with a big KABOOOM! \*or “by that fake election, RIGGED!!!1!!” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37355 "2019-10-03T01:14:59Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > He’s always hated the White House. And this would give him the chance to loot the place first (look for a sudden flurry of moving vans as the Senate vote approaches) and hide the thefts with a big KABOOOM! It occurred to me that he might set the place on fire when he leaves. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37356 "2019-10-03T01:29:12Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Based on the Supreme Headquarter for Intelligence Taskforces Isn’t the top position there the Defender of Trump’s American Rights and Destiny? > [@enipla](#): > > Wonder how much it costs for the honor? And do you get a decoder ring? Super sekrit handshake? Something? I bet I already know what the [salute](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_salute) is. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37357 "2019-10-03T01:45:39Z")
[_WaPo_](https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1179559098695737344) > [@](#): > > Giuliani consulted on Ukraine with imprisoned Paul Manafort via a lawyer ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37358 "2019-10-03T03:04:03Z")
Well, if you want to learn about corruption in Ukraine, what better source than a guy convicted of it and who continues to hope for a pardon? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37359 "2019-10-03T03:19:05Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I hope we find out the answer to your question. I hope so too. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37360 "2019-10-03T03:20:30Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > It would probably take an act of congress to deprive Trump specifically of that protection, but he should keep it anyway. I realize he has a brain resembling the remains of a roadkill squirrel, but it’s not impossible that he’d retain some minor fragment of sensitive information that he hasn’t already blurted, so keeping him in isolated or semi-isolated protective confinement is probably prudent. Rendition the piece of shit to some off the records black site. Forever. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37361 "2019-10-03T03:38:42Z")
> [@WaPo](#): > > Giuliani consulted on Ukraine with imprisoned Paul Manafort via a lawyer Jeez, if Rudy just waits a bit, he’s probably going to have a chance to speak to Manafort directly. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37362 "2019-10-03T04:02:54Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Just now he’s decompensating in front of the cameras again. It’s an interesting juxtaposition, his word salad and simultaneously watching the Dow drop like a rock. We have [video](https://youtu.be/qd_zs8AwoTQ) of that. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37363 "2019-10-03T08:56:26Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > How can he brag about it crossing 26,000 if he doesn’t drive it down again? He crosses it in both directions, and brags each time. It’s like the Minitruth in Oceania congratulating itself on its newly resized chocolate ration. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37364 "2019-10-03T09:25:58Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > I’m sure at the least you get a [uniform](https://www.histclo.com/youth/youth/org/nat/hitler/hitleru.htm), and maybe even a nice [knife](https://www.ima-usa.com/pages/search-results/hitler%20youth%20knife)! Dang, there’s even a [girl’s model.](https://www.ima-usa.com/products/original-german-wwii-bdm-league-of-german-girls-in-the-hitler-youth-knife-with-scabbard?variant=29388256510021) They are kinda cool knives, though [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1867) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1869)