# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37445 "2019-10-07T04:07:54Z")

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Any Kurd deaths that result from this will be on the hands of whoever approved it.

My guess is that Trump got something from Turkey. Turkey is probably interested in the Kurds more so than Isis.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37446 "2019-10-07T04:15:16Z")

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Sounds like the United States is abandoning the Kurds.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37447 "2019-10-07T04:18:00Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> So I heard a rumor that we should all prepare to order a pizza for delivery to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue on the 10th of December.

What is the import of 10 December?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37448 "2019-10-07T04:22:41Z")

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Oh wow I can’t believe you need that spelled out for you. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37449 "2019-10-07T04:55:44Z")

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I guess I need spelling lessons, too.

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**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37450 "2019-10-07T05:07:52Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> What is the import of 10 December?

Nobel Prizes are awarded on December 10th, the anniversary of Alfred Nobel’s death. This would include the Nobel Peace Prize.

It’s also Human Rights Day, as per the United Nations. Probably of less interest to Trumpelthinskin. (Hat tip to whomever I stole that from.)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37451 "2019-10-07T05:09:03Z")

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I didn’t even know this was a spelling bee.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37452 "2019-10-07T05:10:10Z")

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> [@mjmlabs](#):
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> Nobel Prizes are awarded on December 10th, the anniversary of Alfred Nobel’s death. This would include the Nobel Peace Prize.

[The Prizes are being given out this week, though.](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/nobel-season-opens-with-medicine-prize-it-did-not-go-to-trump/)

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**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37453 "2019-10-07T05:16:30Z")

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Right. Announcements are this week. The ceremonies are 10 DEC. Trump will presumably be home 10 DEC to receive consolation/trolling pizzas, and not overseas in Oslo being adorned with a medal and making a speech.

With the Peace Prize being announced Friday, expect some interesting tweets and/or word-salad spoken comments.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37454 "2019-10-07T05:19:18Z")

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> [@mjmlabs](#):
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> With the Peace Prize being announced Friday, expect some interesting tweets and/or word-salad spoken comments.

Why wait for Friday when he’s doing that right now? 🙂

> [@Loser Donald](#):
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> Nancy Pelosi knew of all of the many Shifty Adam Schiff lies and massive frauds perpetrated upon Congress and the American people, in the form of a fraudulent speech knowingly delivered as a ruthless con, and the illegal meetings with a highly partisan “Whistleblower” & lawyer… …This makes Nervous Nancy every bit as guilty as Liddle’ Adam Schiff for High Crimes and Misdemeanors, and even Treason. I guess that means that they, along with all of those that evilly “Colluded” with them, must all be immediately Impeached!

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**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37455 "2019-10-07T05:27:32Z")

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Wow … not only is he quadrupling down on using _ **Liddle’** _, but I think that’s the first time I’ve seen a schoolyard-bully epithet applied to Speaker Pelosi. He must really be worried.

(I must say, I really enjoyed–back during the prelude to the most recent gov’t shutdown, IIRC–seeing/hearing/watching him mansplain _how legislation works_ to _ **Nancy Pelosi** _.)

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37456 "2019-10-07T05:44:41Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Why wait for Friday when he’s doing that right now? 🙂

> [@Loser Donald](#):
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> Nancy Pelosi knew of all of the many Shifty Adam Schiff lies and massive frauds perpetrated upon Congress and the American people, in the form of a fraudulent speech knowingly delivered as a ruthless con, and the illegal meetings with a highly partisan “Whistleblower” & lawyer… …This makes Nervous Nancy every bit as guilty as Liddle’ Adam Schiff for High Crimes and Misdemeanors, and even Treason. I guess that means that they, along with all of those that evilly “Colluded” with them, must all be immediately Impeached!

It’s awesome that no one has the guts to tell him that Liddle’ doesn’t mean _anything_, much less the sick burn he thinks it is. And I see he has finally given Nancy a nickname.

I see that mjmlabs noticed the same things. 🙂

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37457 "2019-10-07T06:10:09Z")

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> [@mjmlabs](#):
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> With the Peace Prize being announced Friday, expect some interesting tweets and/or word-salad spoken comments.

What about the Prize for Literature? The Tweets of Donald J. Trump form a unique corpus the likes of which have never been seen (nor, we can hope, will ever be seen again).

AFAIK, _Trump’s Tweets_ have never been set to music, but he [has inspired an opera song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz7SfkhJe74).

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37458 "2019-10-07T06:15:38Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> What about the Prize for Literature? The Tweets of Donald J. Trump form a unique corpus the likes of which have never been seen (nor, we can hope, will ever be seen again).

They’re awarding two literature prizes this year, so I’m sure Trump is certain he’ll be receiving both.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37459 "2019-10-07T08:47:49Z")

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I think he’s stuck with the ending apostrophe until the Twitler in Chief gets a new phone, since Liddle’ is now in his autocomplete.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37460 "2019-10-07T09:27:33Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Sounds like the United States is abandoning the Kurds.

Yes. Yes it Does.

America’s allies in the Middle East are paying close attention.

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**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37461 "2019-10-07T10:42:18Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> What about the Prize for Literature? The Tweets of Donald J. Trump form a unique corpus the likes of which have never been seen (nor, we can hope, will ever be seen again).
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> AFAIK, _Trump’s Tweets_ have never been set to music, but he [has inspired an opera song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz7SfkhJe74).

He could get the prize for Medicine.

For discovering the harmful neurological effects of orange spray tan via self experimentation.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37462 "2019-10-07T13:03:27Z")

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[Lindsey Graham](https://www.sideshow.com/storage/product-images/100410/jabba-the-hutt-and-throne-deluxe_star-wars_gallery_5c4ccc980e92e.jpg) [criticizes Trump’s decision to abandon the Kurds](https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1181181561045172224):

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> I don’t know all the details regarding President Trump’s decision in northern Syria. In process of setting up phone call with Secretary Pompeo.
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> If press reports are accurate this is a disaster in the making.  
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> - Ensures ISIS comeback.
> - Forces Kurds to align with Assad and Iran.
> - Destroys Turkey’s relationship with U.S. Congress.
> - Will be a stain on America’s honor for abandoning the Kurds.  
> …  
> Also, if this plan goes forward will introduce Senate resolution opposing and asking for reversal of this decision. Expect it will receive strong bipartisan support.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37463 "2019-10-07T13:06:51Z")

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“If you try to remove me from office, I will burn every alliance on the way out.”

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37464 "2019-10-07T13:15:45Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> [Lindsey Graham](https://www.sideshow.com/storage/product-images/100410/jabba-the-hutt-and-throne-deluxe_star-wars_gallery_5c4ccc980e92e.jpg) [criticizes Trump’s decision to abandon the Kurds](https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1181181561045172224):

Every now and then a Republican admits that Trump has no fucking idea what the best thing to do is, and then they go on supporting him with all they’ve got. Fuck all of them, especially Lindsey Graham and Moscow Mitch.

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