# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37465 "2019-10-07T13:16:46Z")

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“Press reports”, lol.

:RING RING:

“Y-y-yes? Is this the police?”

“Lindsey? That report? IT’S COMING FROM INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE!”

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37466 "2019-10-07T13:17:22Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Why he is on track to win again In rural communities.
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> “In the Land of Self-Defeat”  
> _What a fight over the local library in my hometown in rural Arkansas taught me about my neighbors’ go-it-alone mythology — and Donald Trump’s unbeatable appeal._  
> [https://nyti.ms/2IpVNmd](https://nyti.ms/2IpVNmd)
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> Long article with over 3,000 reader comments. The punch line:

Good article.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37467 "2019-10-07T13:19:23Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I think he’s stuck with the ending \*\*apostrophe \*\*until the Twitler in Chief gets a new phone, since Liddle’ is now in his autocomplete.

My bold. You misspelled **hyphen**.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37468 "2019-10-07T13:19:52Z")

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[_Washington Post_](https://twitter.com/peterwallsten/status/1181195776552247296):

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> BREAKING: Federal judge rules Trump must turn over his tax returns to Manhattan DA, but Trump has indicated he will appeal, via @fahrenthold and @amarimow

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37469 "2019-10-07T13:20:55Z")

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Trump lost a ruling about his tax returns, and must give them to the Manhattan DA. In his 75 page ruling the judge said of the president’s argument that it was ‘repugnant to the nation’s governmental structure and constitutional values.’

> <https://twitter.com/jiveDurkey/status/1181194482668261377?s=19>

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37470 "2019-10-07T13:26:24Z")

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And if Trump refuses, or if the actual IRS refuses, the consequences are what?

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37471 "2019-10-07T13:30:21Z")

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Nikki Haley [criticizes Trump’s decision to abandon the Kurds](https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/status/1181191973367160834):

> [@Nikki Haley](#):
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> We must always have the backs of our allies, if we expect them to have our back. The Kurds were instrumental in our successful fight against ISIS in Syria. Leaving them to die is a big mistake. #TurkeyIsNotOurFriend

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37472 "2019-10-07T13:34:36Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> And if Trump refuses, or if the actual IRS refuses, the consequences are what?

He’ll appeal for now.

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37473 "2019-10-07T13:39:04Z")

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Whenever I hear the phrase, “Trump is appealing.” I always wonder, to who?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37474 "2019-10-07T13:47:28Z")

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That was probably rhetorical, but neo-nazis and white power idjits.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37475 "2019-10-07T13:59:54Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Yes. Yes it Does.
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> America’s allies in the Middle East are paying close attention.

It’ll all be forgotten once they see the _phenomenal_ gold bathrooms in Trump Tower Ankara.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37476 "2019-10-07T14:07:46Z")

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[Some [del]of The Messiah’s sheep[/del] low-information voters think impeachment without confirmation means their Messiah would be entitled to a third term.](https://www.newsweek.com/failed-impeachment-nullify-donald-trump-first-term-serve-third-1462971)

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> Among those sharing the claim is alt-right conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec, who wrote in a tweet to his followers: “These Democrats don’t realize that if they impeach Trump and the Senate doesn’t confirm it then it nullifies Trump’s first term and he gets to run two more times. Read the Constitution, people.”

Maybe this alt-Reich person should read the Constitution.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37477 "2019-10-07T15:00:55Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> And if Trump refuses, or if the actual IRS refuses, the consequences are what?

I’m assuming it’ll eventually get to the Supreme Court? Which will then rule that only democrats need release their tax returns. I’m serious.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37478 "2019-10-07T15:21:12Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Why he is on track to win again In rural communities.
> 
> “In the Land of Self-Defeat”  
> _What a fight over the local library in my hometown in rural Arkansas taught me about my neighbors’ go-it-alone mythology — and Donald Trump’s unbeatable appeal._  
> [https://nyti.ms/2IpVNmd](https://nyti.ms/2IpVNmd)
> 
> Long article with over 3,000 reader comments. The punch line:

I grew up in a smaller rural town in northern Pennsylvania and see the same thing happening there. A disturbing article but only the second most this past weekend. Read [this…](https://www.thedailybeast.com/if-trumps-rage-brings-civil-war-where-will-the-military-stand)

> [@](#):
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> Recent polling shows that among military veterans, approval ratings for Trump are higher than among the civilian population. In my experience, the support for Donald Trump among a large segment of the U.S. military is downright cult-like.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37479 "2019-10-07T15:32:29Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> I’m assuming it’ll eventually get to the Supreme Court? Which will then rule that only democrats need release their tax returns. I’m serious.

Republicans will be like [Ooh, you almost had it! Gotta be quicker than that!’](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZE8x0N33yE)

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37480 "2019-10-07T15:33:23Z")

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Donald fucks over the Kurds. Pulling out of Syria with no consultation with any allies, now Turks are free to slaughter the Kurds as they undoubtedly will. Message to the world: Don’t be a good ally to the US, they’ll just fuck you over.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37481 "2019-10-07T15:40:32Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Sounds like the United States is abandoning the Kurds.

To our everlasting shame. This “administration” makes me sick.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37482 "2019-10-07T15:57:05Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Donald fucks over the Kurds. Pulling out of Syria with no consultation with any allies, now Turks are free to slaughter the Kurds as they undoubtedly will. Message to the world: Don’t be a good ally to the US, they’ll just fuck you over.

The obvious follow-up question: what did Erdogan promise in return?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37483 "2019-10-07T15:59:00Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> The obvious follow-up question: what did Erdogan promise in return?

Probably nothing, just flattery. That’s all it takes.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37484 "2019-10-07T16:09:52Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Probably nothing, just flattery. That’s all it takes.

Or dirt on Joe Biden.

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