# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1882
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37625 "2019-10-10T20:14:44Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Which is important since if it wasn’t for Normandy, the Nazis would have invaded Florida. > > Which is to say, Trump is trying to make a nationalist/anti-globalism argument by using a pro-globalism war. What’s even better is, these anti-Kurd lies are coming from a stinking cowardly draft dodger. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37626 "2019-10-10T22:12:58Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Pre-emptive pardons. > [@Skypist](#): > > How could I forget about that? Argh. Those are so twentieth century (thanks Gerry Ford!). Let’s go back to the seventeenth century and revive Richelieu’s _cartes blanche_. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37627 "2019-10-10T22:17:28Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Hmmmm. Fox news is[putting out more things](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-phone-call-erdogan-turkey-syria) that don’t seem favorable to The Chosen One: Attorney General Barr met privately last night with Rupert Murdoch, [NYT reports](https://twitter.com/tackettdc/status/1182416818805366785), at Murdoch’s home in New York: “Mr. Trump believes that the network has become more critical of him, and he has grown increasingly critical of Fox News.” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37628 "2019-10-10T22:18:35Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Those are so twentieth century (thanks Gerry Ford!). Let’s go back to the seventeenth century and revive Richelieu’s _cartes blanche_. Meh. Trump would go for Divine Right of Kings: Trump is … “subject to no earthly authority, deriving the right to rule directly from a divine authority, like the monotheist will of God. (Trump) is thus not subject to the will of his people, (congress), or any other estate of the realm.” ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37629 "2019-10-10T23:21:18Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The two Giuliani guys arrested today were guests at a White House dinner. They are being represented by former Individual 1 attorney John Dowd. Dowd actually just wrote a letter (in comic sans, of all things) that the two guys didn’t have enough time to come before the House impeachment investigators. They were arrested at Dulles Airport on their way out of the country. > The comic sans letter also mentions Fox contributors DeGenova and Toensing. > [Comic Sans: Lawyer John Dowd uses font replying to impeachment letter](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/10/comic-sans-lawyer-john-dowd-uses-font-replying-impeachment-letter/3928008002/) Apparently [Rudy](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/10/rudy-giuliani-vienna/599833/) was planning a trip out of the country as well to join up with these guys. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37630 "2019-10-10T23:44:59Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Apparently [Rudy](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/10/rudy-giuliani-vienna/599833/) was planning a trip out of the country as well to join up with these guys. You know, I love the show, but these recent twists are just so obvious and over the top. I mean maybe a third rate criminal would try this shit, but this part of the show is supposed to be about the President’s own lawyer for God’s sake! I mean it’s just not believable at this point. They need new writers. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37631 "2019-10-11T00:11:06Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > You know, I love the show, but these recent twists are just so obvious and over the top. I mean maybe a third rate criminal would try this shit, but this part of the show is supposed to be about the President’s own lawyer for God’s sake! > > I mean it’s just not believable at this point. They need new writers. Are you saying Former President Trump’s\* administration has jumped the shark? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37632 "2019-10-11T00:11:21Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Attorney General Barr met privately last night with Rupert Murdoch, [NYT reports](https://twitter.com/tackettdc/status/1182416818805366785), at Murdoch’s home in New York: “Mr. Trump believes that the network has become more critical of him, and he has grown increasingly critical of Fox News.” Not that I think Murdoch is exactly a morally upstanding person, but I would have loved to have seen exactly how he told Barr to fuck off. Whatever his other flaws, Murdoch isn’t the type to tow somebody else’s line for no good reason. Also, they need Fox News way more than Fox News needs them (not a lot - they can make do with any bunch of Republicans, if we’re being honest). ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37633 "2019-10-11T00:19:51Z")
I mean, you can see the bus rolling slowly over Rudy in real time. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37634 "2019-10-11T00:32:05Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > You know, I love the show, but these recent twists are just so obvious and over the top. I mean maybe a third rate criminal would try this shit, but this part of the show is supposed to be about the President’s own lawyer for God’s sake! > > I mean it’s just not believable at this point. They need new writers. Well, just hold on there. It’s not like there’s a [video](https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1182441506600374272) of the three of them smiling into the camera in the lobby of the [Trump hotel](https://twitter.com/jfreewright/status/1182448209370767360), and saying “I’ll see you in Ukraine soon!” ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37635 "2019-10-11T00:40:05Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Attorney General Barr met privately last night with Rupert Murdoch, [NYT reports](https://twitter.com/tackettdc/status/1182416818805366785), at Murdoch’s home in New York: “Mr. Trump believes that the network has become more critical of him, and he has grown increasingly critical of Fox News.” Oh, that’s no biggie. Everybody in NYC knows Rupert’s pad. It’s a cool little studio right on the edge of SoHo, and if you’ve had too much blow during a night on the town, he loves it when you drop in and have a few shots of his tequila to smooth you out. He’ll throw on some Miles and chill with ya. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37636 "2019-10-11T00:46:13Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Attorney General Barr met privately last night with Rupert Murdoch, [NYT reports](https://twitter.com/tackettdc/status/1182416818805366785), at Murdoch’s home in New York: “Mr. Trump believes that the network has become more critical of him, and he has grown increasingly critical of Fox News.” What. The. Fuck. Barr is now Trump’s enforcer? “Nice network you got her Mr. Murdoch. Be a shame if the FCC were to shut it down. \ Oh sorry. So clumsy of me.” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37637 "2019-10-11T01:04:26Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I mean, you can see the bus rolling slowly over Rudy in real time. Whenever I hear anything about that guy, I hear the opening line from an old Supertramp song, _Rudy_ … ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37638 "2019-10-11T01:13:33Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Whenever I hear anything about that guy, I hear the opening line from an old Supertramp song, _Rudy_ … OK, now I had to play this. “Rudy thought that all good things comes to those that wait But recently he could see that it may come but too late, too late, too late” ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37639 "2019-10-11T01:14:22Z")
“[Rudy, A Message to You](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb8jkjlP89M)” > [@](#): > > Stop your running about > It’s time you straighten right out > Stop your running around > Making problems in town > > Aha-a, Rudy > A message to you, Rudy > A message to you > > You’re growing older each day > You want to think of your future > Or you might wind up in jail > And you will suffer > > Aha-a, Rudy > A message to you, Rudy > A message to you > > … ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37640 "2019-10-11T03:41:21Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Are you saying Former President Trump’s\* administration has jumped the shark? 😃 It began with Trump grabbing pussies, but now the Republicans are jumping sharks. Very kinky, but not in a good way with regard, or lack thereof, toward the American people and their Constitution. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37641 "2019-10-11T03:58:54Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > “[Rudy, A Message to You](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb8jkjlP89M)” Well, he’s certainly Special. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37642 "2019-10-11T04:39:46Z")
Hehehe, a link that hasn’t been taken down for those who want to hear [a message to Rudy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUoXVeHEUPE). Seriously, a perfect pick, **Walken**. I love any reason to listen to it on days that end in y - today is much more special, given the context. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37643 "2019-10-11T04:46:27Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Trump: Now there’s one magnanimous motherfucker. A real friend to our allies. The kind of motherfucker you really want on your side. Oh, I’d like him on my side. I’d make sure to always have him go first anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37644 "2019-10-11T12:21:56Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Attorney General Barr met privately last night with Rupert Murdoch, [NYT reports](https://twitter.com/tackettdc/status/1182416818805366785), at Murdoch’s home in New York: “Mr. Trump believes that the network has become more critical of him, and he has grown increasingly critical of Fox News.” Which is a totally normal thing that probably happens all the time in a functioning democracy with an impartial Justice Department focused on its top priorities. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1881) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1883)