# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1883
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37645 "2019-10-11T12:46:58Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > This SHOULD directly implicate Giuliani. It probably won’t since that sumbitch is one lucky (if crazy) bastard. But I can hope he’s headed for prison soon too. What good would that do? He’d just transform into his bat or mist form and slip out between the bars. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37646 "2019-10-11T12:57:12Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Which is a totally normal thing that probably happens all the time in a functioning democracy with an impartial Justice Department focused on its top priorities. But hey, Clinton once talked with someone else in public so everything is exactly equivalent. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37647 "2019-10-11T13:38:36Z")
The Nobel Peace Prize went to somebody from one of those shithole countries. Oh well, Donnie…better luck next year. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37648 "2019-10-11T14:27:41Z")
Trump keeps calling it an insane impeachment witch hunt. Makes me want to call it an insane clown posse hunt 😃 ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37649 "2019-10-11T14:41:01Z")
I heard a new nick name for Giuliani: _Rudy Colludy_. Perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37650 "2019-10-11T16:13:08Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Whenever I hear anything about that guy, I hear the opening line from an old Supertramp song, _Rudy_ … LOL… “Rudy’s on a train to nowhere, halfway down the line” Great, now I’ll never hear that song again without thinking of Guliani. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37651 "2019-10-11T16:53:27Z")
Per Yovanovitch From CNN > [@](#): > > “With respect to Mayor Giuliani, I have had only minimal contacts with him—a total of three that I recall. None related to the events at issue,” she said, according to her prepared remarks. “I do not know Mr. Giuliani’s motives for attacking me. But individuals who have been named in the press as contacts of Mr. Giuliani may well have believed that their personal financial ambitions were stymied by our anti-corruption policy in Ukraine.” > **[Roundup of Trump impeachment inquiry on October 11](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-inquiry-10-11-19/index.html)** > > The House is moving forward with its impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump. Follow here for the latest. So apparently she’s not testifying behind closed doors? Well it sounds like it is closed door but a copy of her opening statement was released. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37652 "2019-10-11T17:15:16Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > Hehehe, a link that hasn’t been taken down for those who want to hear [a message to Rudy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUoXVeHEUPE). > > Seriously, a perfect pick, **Walken**. I love any reason to listen to it on days that end in y - today is much more special, given the context. Are ‘Rudy’ and ‘rude boy’ synonymous? I always thought Rudy was just his name, but maybe it’s more like the ‘rude boys’ in Desmond Dekker’s _007 (Shanty Town)_? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37653 "2019-10-11T17:17:24Z")
[Trump loses appeal to stop House subpoena of his tax documents](https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/11/politics/trump-mazars-appeal-decision/index.html) > [@](#): > > In a 2-1 ruling, the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit upheld a lower court ruling saying the firm must turn over eight years of accounting records. > > The opinion is a strong signal that the White House’s letter earlier this week refusing to cooperate with the impeachment probe without a full House vote authorizing it would not hold up in court… > > “The courts lack the power to invalidate a duly authorized congressional subpoena merely because it might have been ‘better [if]…the full House’ had specifically authorized or issued it,” the court wrote. “Unless and until Congress adopts a rule that offends the Constitution, the courts get no vote in how each chamber chooses to run its internal affairs.” ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37654 "2019-10-11T18:01:37Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Are ‘Rudy’ and ‘rude boy’ synonymous? I always thought Rudy was just his name, but maybe it’s more like the ‘rude boys’ in Desmond Dekker’s _007 (Shanty Town)_? [Yep](https://popcultureexperiment.com/2016/11/28/cover-songs-uncovered-a-message-to-you-rudy/): > [@](#): > > Thus, “Rudy, A Message To You,” was a call for the rude boys — or Rudies — to reflect on their behavior and its potential implications ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37655 "2019-10-11T18:11:52Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > [Yep](https://popcultureexperiment.com/2016/11/28/cover-songs-uncovered-a-message-to-you-rudy/): Thanks. It took 40 years, but I finally got there. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37656 "2019-10-11T19:32:10Z")
Supposedly, we have reached a small trade deal with China. > **[US and China reach 'phase one' trade deal, staving off more tariffs for now](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/us-and-china-reach-phase-one-trade-deal-staving-off-more-tariffs-for-now)** > > President Trump said Friday that his administration had reached a "substantial deal" on trade with Beijing but that the specific details remain to be worked out. I am skeptical of the specifics. Soybean tariffs were set to pressure Trump voters. Trump needs those voters massively. That China would give them away for nothing seems unlikely. I suspect that we’ll find out what the Adminstration is actually trying to give away in return, soon. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37657 "2019-10-11T20:15:01Z")
I wonder if it rhymes with schminvestigate schmiden. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37658 "2019-10-11T20:20:37Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Supposedly, we have reached a small trade deal with China. > > [https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/us-and-china-reach-limited-trade-deal](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/us-and-china-reach-limited-trade-deal) > > I am skeptical of the specifics. > > Soybean tariffs were set to pressure Trump voters. Trump needs those voters massively. That China would give them away for nothing seems unlikely. > > I suspect that we’ll find out what the Adminstration is actually trying to give away in return, soon. > [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I wonder if it rhymes with schminvestigate schmiden. No; that would be another gift from China to Old Orangestain; the question is what gifts he’s giving them in return. For starters, I assume he never heard of any Hong Kongians storming the beaches at Normandy… ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37659 "2019-10-11T20:38:04Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Supposedly, we have reached a small trade deal with China. > > [https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/us-and-china-reach-limited-trade-deal](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/us-and-china-reach-limited-trade-deal) > > I am skeptical of the specifics. This is the same administration that recently insisted talks with North Korea had been good discussions that totally didn’t end in failure, despite accomplishing nothing and being characterized by their own envoy as “bad and sickening” on his way the hell out of Dodge? Yeah, think I’ll wait for third-party confirmation. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37660 "2019-10-11T23:22:31Z")
Really cute Eric Trump’s [brilliant turn of phrase:](https://www.thedailybeast.com/eric-trump-leads-rally-crowd-in-lock-him-up-chant-at-hunter-biden) > [@](#): > > “How do you think [Hunter] is feeling after embezzling a lot of money?” Eric Trump asked the audience Thursday. “A lot of crookedness, he is not feeling too good. Maybe ‘Lock her up!’ goes to ‘Lock him up!’” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37661 "2019-10-11T23:34:26Z")
Even if his allegations were true, does he think the US imprisons people for crimes they commit in other countries? 😕 I hate stupid people who are loud and talkative. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37662 "2019-10-11T23:38:13Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Even if his allegations were true, does he think the US imprisons people for crimes they commit in other countries? 😕 > > I hate stupid people who are loud and talkative. Also, (I can’t follow the insanity too closely) but I don’t think the made up allegations against Hunter include embezzlement. > [@](#): > > noun: embezzlement; plural noun: embezzlements > > ``` > theft or misappropriation of funds placed in one's trust or belonging to one's employer. > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37663 "2019-10-11T23:41:23Z")
Well that’s what I mean and what I keep asking people about: why the fuck should American law enforcement care about someone breaking a law in another country? Even if it’s an American? And if American law enforcement doesn’t care about it, why the fuck should Americans? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37664 "2019-10-12T00:13:51Z")
This just in: [Trump: Kevin McAleenan out at Homeland Security](https://apnews.com/41d8075b43e243beb7c327fde5a3b091) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump says Kevin McAleenan is out as the acting secretary of the Department of Homeland Security and says he will be announcing a new acting secretary in the next week. I wonder what someone found out about him? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1882) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1884)